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00:30:31<nukke>what's wrong with vmware?
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00:57:37<nicolas17>nukke: what's wrong with broadcom*
01:06:02<katia>nukke: i have deployed an unlicensed oracle database inside an unlicensed vsphere in your infra. I am going to tell Broadcom and oracle in 30 days unless you remove unifi
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01:29:41<nukke>don't worry, they won't get any money out of me. adobe already bankrupted me because a user installed adobe acrobat
01:31:12<nukke>I would log into the terminal server to uninstall it but I can't because my domain controllers got automatically updated to windows server 2025 and I don't have a license for it
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03:01:45<Flashfire42>kiska did the lounge shit the bed?
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03:58:01<Ryz>Wild stuff post-Redbox stuff o.o; https://kotaku.com/redbox-machines-kiosks-free-movies-dvds-stealing-reddit-1851694915
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06:05:25<immibis>nicolas17: make a pull request
06:11:24<immibis>reddit seems to be more aggressively blocking tor now, giving a white page on most requests
06:11:50<immibis>depends on which exit node you get
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08:06:06<that_lurker>Manjaro is experimenting with **opt-out telemetry https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/manjaro-is-experimenting-with-opt-out-telemetry/22305 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42121548
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11:32:42<pabs>Manjaro--
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13:40:51<that_lurker>opt-out--
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13:57:04<@OrIdow6>https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/manjaro-is-experimenting-with-opt-out-telemetry/22305--
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14:04:45<pabs>this timeline--
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14:04:53<pabs>fireonlive++
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14:54:32<kpcyrd>Arch Linux++
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14:56:53<kpcyrd>I'd love to brag how many humans I ship updates to on the regular [without things breaking], but "somewhere between 1.000 and 1.000.000 (probably)", well..
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15:20:32<f_>!kfind alpine
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15:20:37<f_>Alpine Linux++
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17:54:29<@JAA>Alpine Linux--
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17:54:49<@JAA>They overwrite package files and don't keep the old versions anywhere. ._.
18:04:27<steering>how long before microsoft starts cracking down on all the storage they're wasting on github?
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18:10:25<DigitalDragons>other than people trying to use github as a replacement for their unlimited google drives?
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18:10:29<DigitalDragons>probably a while
18:39:51<xDEADBEEF>hey, im trying for a while without success, i have a uncapped data connection, but i can only run a warrior container(docker) with 6 tasks, is there a way to run with more tasks?
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18:40:29<th3z0l4>sorry was using the wrong username lol
18:41:24<@JAA>th3z0l4: This is the off-topic channel. You want #warrior or #archiveteam-bs instead.
18:41:33<th3z0l4>tks
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19:07:04<nukke>https://liliputing.com/blackberrys-qnx-operating-system-is-now-free-for-non-commercial-use/
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21:09:56<Barto>JAA: alpine give me itches too; i dont like seeing people just pray by it only, without them realizing they're actually swapping glibc to musl in prod :D I prefer to stay debian and be the classic idiot there.
21:10:28<katia>is musl not fine?
21:11:00<Barto>musl is for sure fine! It's just that most distro are on glibc, and this may bring some fun linking issues if you cross them
21:11:56<katia>ah
21:12:06<Barto>the argument of "alpine is light" is not strong enough for me to take the risk and swap my c runtime :D
21:13:04<Barto>a slim debian is fine you know :-)
21:13:05<@JAA>It is light and neat for containers, where you can just compile at image build stage anyway.
21:13:24<@JAA>You're not COPYing binaries into images, are you? ;-)
21:13:56<@JAA>I probably wouldn't use it outside of containers though.
21:14:15<nicolas17>also
21:14:26<nicolas17>https://git.musl-libc.org/cgit/musl/tree/src/stdio/vfprintf.c#n582 this would probably be more readable in raw assembly than as it is now
21:14:35<@JAA>And if I run into any issues while trying to build the image on Alpine, it gets replaced by Debian. :-)
21:14:56<Barto>nicolas17: glibc has its share of weirdness too :D
21:15:10<@JAA>I was going to ask whether the glibc code looks any better. :-D
21:15:19<Barto>JAA: exactly, so i'm for unifying all my images and directly go to debian
21:15:21<Barto>:p
21:15:28<@JAA>Yeah, that's fair.
21:15:43<nicolas17>595 may be my favorite there
21:15:45<nicolas17>line
21:15:46<that_lurker>slim images are debian based and somewhat comperable to alpine in size
21:15:57<Barto>that_lurker++
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21:16:26<Barto>nicolas17: wat if(1)
21:16:35<nicolas17>Barto: it's for the 'else'
21:17:14<@JAA>That's nice.
21:17:24<Barto>did an at&t guy write that mess?
21:17:50<nicolas17>in case 'm', they want to skip line 597 but otherwise continue with the rest of case 's'
21:17:56<nicolas17>it's so ugly
21:18:39<nicolas17>it might actually be more readable if you compile it and then decompile it back
21:19:14<@JAA>I didn't know that was valid syntax. But I guess the cases are basically goto labels, so it makes sense.
21:19:52<nicolas17>*duff's device enters the chat*
21:20:55<Barto>https://users.csc.calpoly.edu/~jdalbey/SWE/Papers/att_collapse
21:21:10<Barto>duff's device is a clear pattern, even an elegant one i'd say
21:21:18<nicolas17>"i remember one time musl malloc broke ffmpeg because musl was the only malloc that used floating point in the history of mallocs, and ffmpeg had a bug with floating context save/restore in between calls"
21:22:09<@JAA>Right, yeah
21:22:15<Barto>floats in malloc, for size?
21:22:17<Barto>wut
21:22:21<@JAA>wut
21:22:51<ymgve>some days you just need 0.01 bytes
21:23:15<katia>save this to 0.5bits please
21:23:38<@JAA>To shreds, you say?
21:23:58<ymgve>or you need more memory than a 64bit MAX_INT
21:25:45<nicolas17>https://github.com/ifduyue/musl/blob/c3761622e8168b0c6453637ac82e70b09af3e8e9/src/malloc/malloc.c#L126
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21:39:37<nicolas17>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IC9nRgikZQ
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21:40:50<nicolas17>pabs: ^
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22:15:03<@OrIdow6>nicolas17: Oh, that's awful, I would not have guessed that
22:16:02<@OrIdow6>The if else thing
22:16:07<@OrIdow6>But also that line in malloc
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22:44:18<pabs>Debian working on Linux kernel livepatches for increasing your uptime :) https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/ZzPQxPEFtYZj74cf@voleno
22:49:58<Barto>yeah!
22:50:23<@JAA>About time!
22:53:24<pabs>could be a while so don't hold your breath :)
22:56:29<pabs>and they are starting in sid not stable
22:58:13<nicolas17>and you probably need to reboot to install a kernel that supports livepatching :P
23:04:41<pabs>Debian sid kernels already have CONFIG_LIVEPATCH=y CONFIG_HAVE_LIVEPATCH=y
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