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04:06:56<immibis>machine code is the lowest level at which the program is still a program. The CPU's front end does not convert it into another kind of program, but something that is not a program.
04:07:36<immibis>arguably not even a thing
04:08:10<immibis>It's not like a jit compiler
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04:20:24<nukke>I don't know anyone in person that uses puppet. it's all terraform/opentofu, ansible and chef, in that order
04:22:44<nicolas17>I used ansible for KDE.org infrastructure because 1. it's Python and I don't know Ruby, 2. it didn't really matter if I chose ansible or chef or puppet, *anything* would be better than nothing
04:23:08<nicolas17>"ssh to the server, make changes to config files, don't document it, don't tell others what you changed" doesn't work
04:23:51<nicolas17>then I stopped being active and nobody else maintained the ansible stuff so I'd have to start over if I went back
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04:58:13<pabs>nukke: it was popular in the olden days. I know Debian and Tor still use it.
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11:10:57<katia>nukke: and salt
11:17:42<kpcyrd>in my community ansible and terraform were popular, but I'm not in that line of business anymore
11:18:01<kpcyrd>some of the younger people use nix as a replacement
11:19:49<kpcyrd>me myself I put `docker run ... ghcr.io/kpcyrd/... ...` into a systemd unit and call it a day, from there on it's just regular software development with no further operating system fever dreams
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12:28:39<alexlehm>the main project I worked for used ansible for all management things that required config files (that ran untzil 2022)
12:31:25<Czechball>I'm currently using Ansible at my job
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13:44:10<Barto>I've seen things... seen things you little people wouldn't believe. Ansible is such a footgun, but easy entry to turn your setup IaC.
13:44:51<Barto>terraform is less of a bazar in comparison
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14:47:46<immibis>iac-beams glittering in the warc off the tannhäuser gate
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16:40:14<magmaus3>obligatory "does anyone here use nix for server administration?"
16:42:20<nukke>I have deployed a couple of nix vms at work in our sandbox environment
16:42:47<nukke>exploring options as the Ubuntu 20.04 EOL nears closer
16:48:15<FireFly>somewhat, yes
17:01:58<katia>magmaus3: I do
17:02:15<katia>and I’d wager hexa- does too
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17:12:39<hexa->I have indeed dabbled with nix a bit
17:16:06<nicolas17>https://stream-hls.castr.net/66e98b0f4d6b4f4a9828a35e/live_74913600750311efa3790bffd883d562/tracks-v2a1/mono.m3u8
17:16:20<nicolas17>live interview to Matt Mullenweg right now
17:16:25<nicolas17>it will probably go on youtube later
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17:29:45<nukke>hmmm I tried opening the stream in VLC but a pop up came up asking if I was a WPEngine employee before I can watch
17:31:15<nicolas17>💀
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20:01:07<immibis>oh that's a bug. It's supposed to ask you if you've ever had any connection to anyone who ever had any connection to WPEngine
20:01:19<immibis>like maybe riding on the same bus
20:01:39<immibis>can't wait for that guy to get bankrupted by wpe's lawsuit
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21:02:44<katia>nukke, what wifi7 ap do i buy
21:04:26<nukke>wifi7 is a meme
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21:15:55<that_lurker>Ubiquiti has nice AP's though if your router and stuff is not Ubiquiti then tp-link has some nice ones
21:37:09katia spanks that_lurker
21:37:17<katia>no unifi
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22:29:09<nukke>unifi is too advanced for katia. she's looking for something more consumer grade
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