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00:28:21<@hook54321>how do i make the window management in macos feel more traditional? (like kde or windows)
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01:09:40<nulldata>https://ma.tt/2024/10/first-amendment/
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01:10:55<@JAA>oh boy
01:14:58<Jake>what will matt do this time....
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02:28:25<steering>fireonlive++
02:28:26<eggdrop>[karma] 'fireonlive' now has 631 karma!
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03:08:47<steering>So. I found one of fireonlive's SSH keys sitting around unprotected and was able to get access to most of his stuff for here. Doesn't help to take over the billing for any of his servers, but I have a copy of eggdrop and firebot now.
03:09:11<steering>no passphrase++
03:09:11<eggdrop>[karma] 'no passphrase' now has 1 karma!
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03:15:50<nicolas17>what did firebot do?
03:21:00<steering>127.0.0.1:12543 = #archiveteam-twitter
03:21:00<steering>127.0.0.1:12544 = #infosec
03:21:00<steering>127.0.0.1:12545 = #archiveteam-reddit
03:21:04<steering>apparently
03:21:41<nicolas17>ah RSS reader kinda
03:21:56<steering>yeah, that's probably the stuff from IFTTT
03:22:07<steering>which unfortunately I have no way of replicating
03:22:43<steering>there's also a command which "gives you a list of links to `!ao <` for an https://asciinema.org user" 🤷‍♂️
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03:27:51<TheTechRobo>TIL #archiveteam-reddit
03:43:55<steering>also, if anyone wants to waste time playing irc trivia -> #trivia
03:44:14<steering>(of course fireonlive already had a client sitting there)
04:51:33<that_lurker>speaking of RSS. Is there a need for some rss feeds that people want to follow in a channel here? The feed bot im running is stable currently so more can be added.
04:59:28<@OrIdow6>that_lurker: This is a weird question but do you havn any way to do machine translation on the feeds?
04:59:36<@OrIdow6>Chinese->English
04:59:50<@OrIdow6>Low volume
05:06:20<that_lurker>Sadly no. I was looking into that some time ago, but it would require either for me to do the translation locally to a local feed and then add it to the bot or do a custom plugin
05:16:12<@OrIdow6>Ah, alright
05:30:16<steering>that_lurker: anywhere that the rss bot was running, but unfortunately I can't see anything but the outside of its homedir :)
05:30:29<steering>you probably no more channels it was in than I do :D
05:31:31<steering>#nanog, #oss-security are still missing, although I suspect he had yet another piece doing that: there's a /home/mailman-rss that I also can't see
05:34:43<steering>s/you probably no/you probably know/
05:38:06<that_lurker>both of those have rss feeds to I can set them up. Though now comes the question of should I create -rss version of the channels or not.
05:38:39<steering>they were both only ever used for the feeds I think
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05:50:27<that_lurker>those are now set up
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07:14:41<pabs>that_lurker++
07:14:42<eggdrop>[karma] 'that_lurker' now has 28 karma!
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08:40:49<that_lurker>steering: Oh and I have two plans for reminders if you will not continue those with eggdrop. And !tell will also work with that. Both have become somewhat important here
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08:46:02<steering>now that I have eggdrop's scripts, I *can* spin it up on one of my servers once it dies. I don't have to though.
08:48:03<steering>actually, I suppose I should shut down or move eggdrop (at least) in an orderly fashion, so that we don't have to recover its databases from logs.
08:49:18<steering>(I already rsync'd down the whole VM - as much as I can access anyway - but that's only good for the reminders, etc that it has today)
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09:05:40<that_lurker>ok using the eggdrop one would be ideal
09:46:03<c3manu>if i were looking for possible internet/provider/datacenter outages in amsterdam, where would be a good place to look for checking?
09:46:21<c3manu>google search results aren't helpful at all
09:48:34<@rewby>c3manu: Depends on what provider you're looking for
09:52:27<c3manu>so there's nothing just for a "general suspicion"? ^^
09:54:58<@rewby>It depends on what you're looking for. If it's DC and backend, keeping an eye on NLNOG's IRC is always a good idea
09:55:13<@rewby>If it's consumer, tweakers forums
09:55:17<that_lurker>https://downdetector.com/
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10:31:52<@rewby>o7
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10:59:22<f_>RIP eggdrop :(
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11:00:17<f_>and firebot :(
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11:16:38<that_lurker>steering: You moving eggdrop?
11:41:51<f_>steering: fireonlive had a bot on EFnet under the nick `aop`, it died less than a week ago
11:42:01<f_>would be nice to get it back up if you can
11:42:11<f_>it's an auto-op bot
11:43:41<f_>2024-10-14.log:[18:51:35] *** Quits: aop (~aop@vps-9bde1a96.vps.ovh.net) (shutting down)
11:44:05<f_>steering: ↑ was that you?
11:46:20<that_lurker>oof that might have died at the same time waterpipe died
11:46:43<f_>waterpipe?
11:48:17<that_lurker>one of the pipelines fireonlive hosted
11:48:23<f_>oof.
11:48:23<that_lurker>fireonlive++
11:48:32<that_lurker>oh yeah :-(
11:48:48<f_>[karma] 'fireonlive' now has 632 karma!
12:01:12<f_>fireon.live domain expired :(
12:07:39<Jake>:(
12:10:26<nyakase>fireonlive++
12:14:22<Barto>fireonlive++
12:14:24<Barto>:(
12:27:51<DigitalDragons>rip eggdrop :(
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13:08:32<c3manu>:(
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13:59:29<nukke>https://github.com/bitwarden/clients/issues/11611
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14:07:09<Dango360>oh god, bitwarden, please don't turn into another lastpass...
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14:19:35<f_>Dango360: "@bitwarden locked and limited conversation to collaborators"
14:21:20<f_>Everyone should switch to `pass`
14:21:24<f_>best PW manager
14:25:47<TheTechRobo>I just switched to bitwarden from Firefox saved passwords :-(
14:41:50<anarcat>this sucks
14:42:30<nukke>vaultwarden is still a viable alternative
14:42:54<nukke>however I think the dev works for Bitwarden so who knows if he'll continue developing it
14:43:23<anarcat>vaultwarden doesn't provide clients, just the server
14:43:29<nukke>actually no, I'm confusing him with the Headscale dev who works for Tailscale
14:43:42<nukke>anarcat: correct.
14:46:12<nicolas17>f_: "locked and limited conversation to collaborators" makes sense given the amount of noise users started posting tbh
15:04:23<hexa->f_: metadata leakage is meh
15:04:35<hexa->also semi structured data (aka your own structure)
15:04:42<hexa->i'm not going back
15:04:55<f_>hexa-: metadata leakage?
15:05:00<hexa->next you'll say using gpg is sane
15:05:13<hexa->yeah, the paths and filenames
15:05:19<f_>I use pass because it's convenient and fits in my workflow quite well
15:05:48<f_>and it being git-based has saved me before
15:36:20<myself>Keepass + syncthing. Keyfile on each machine that's outside the syncthing tree, so even if someone managed to compromise syncthing they still don't get the material to open the Keepass database.
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15:54:44imer resets the days since boeing messed up counter
15:54:44<imer>https://spacenews.com/intelsat-33e-loses-power-in-geostationary-orbit/ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41904346
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16:05:01<myself>Easy to knock Boeing, but 60° east was also a nice place to put a big satellite that beams information to eastern Europe. Shame if something were to... happen to it.
16:55:19<steering>f_: no, and the entire vps seems like it disappeared at that time, pretty sure it just expired, although timing was odd
16:57:48<steering>wow looks like the DigitalOcean (where the bots were) shut off this morning. guess I got it just in time...
17:03:55<f_>Hopefully you can bring eggdrop and firebot back up ^^
17:10:53<steering>yeah, I will, I'm just in a work meeting
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17:39:55<@JAA>steering: I wouldn't mind hosting eggdrop.
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17:45:31<steering>well it joins channels very slowly but it should be back up
17:46:02<DigitalDragons>steering++
17:46:48DigitalDragons plays elevator music while the queue drains
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17:49:59<katia>that_lurker bonk++
17:59:45<steering>hum
18:00:10<steering>looks like it's still joining although the log is so heavily buffered that it's tough to tell
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18:04:06<steering>[2024-10-21T17:52:00+0000] Warning: over maximum server queue!
18:04:14<steering>also it's got 2 of these so who knows what got dropped LOL
18:04:18<steering>fireonlive++
18:04:51<steering>fireonlive++
18:05:10<kiska>RIP?
18:05:13<steering>it did increment it in the db soooo *shrug*
18:05:22<eggdrop>[karma] 'steering' now has 8 karma!
18:05:24<eggdrop>[karma] 'that_lurker bonk' now has 12 karma!
18:05:26<eggdrop>[karma] 'fireonlive' now has 632 karma!
18:05:27<kiska>Wow :D
18:05:28<steering>there we go lol
18:05:28<eggdrop>[karma] 'fireonlive' now has 633 karma!
18:05:43<kiska>Thats... very delayed
18:05:49<kiska>!kfind kiska
18:05:50<katia>fireonlive++
18:05:51<eggdrop>[karma] 2 matches for 'kiska': kiska: '6' kiska bonk: '1'
18:05:51<eggdrop>[karma] 'fireonlive' now has 634 karma!
18:09:05<f_>yay!
18:09:09<f_>fireonlive++
18:09:10<eggdrop>[karma] 'fireonlive' now has 635 karma!
18:09:12<f_>steering++
18:09:12<eggdrop>[karma] 'steering' now has 9 karma!
18:09:14<f_>steering++
18:09:14<eggdrop>[karma] 'steering' now has 10 karma!
18:09:28<f_>steering: perhaps could update eggdrop's gecos?
18:09:59<katia>gecos?
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18:11:37<@JAA>'real name'
18:11:44<@JAA>fireonlive++
18:11:46<eggdrop>[karma] 'fireonlive' now has 636 karma!
18:11:46<@JAA>steering++
18:11:47<eggdrop>[karma] 'steering' now has 11 karma!
18:11:51<katia>steering++
18:11:52<eggdrop>[karma] 'steering' now has 12 karma!
18:11:55<@JAA>steering: If you ever get tired of hosting it, let me know.
18:12:14<katia>JAA++
18:12:14<eggdrop>[karma] 'JAA' now has 132 karma!
18:15:41<imer>steering++
18:15:41<eggdrop>[karma] 'steering' now has 13 karma!
18:16:06<that_lurker>steering++
18:16:07<eggdrop>[karma] 'steering' now has 14 karma!
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18:58:28<Vokun>steering++
18:58:28<eggdrop>[karma] 'steering' now has 15 karma!
18:58:39<Vokun>fireonlive++
18:58:41<eggdrop>[karma] 'fireonlive' now has 637 karma!
19:03:39<Barto>steering: thanks a lot for bringing it back
19:03:42<Barto>fireonlive++
19:03:42<eggdrop>[karma] 'fireonlive' now has 638 karma!
19:03:58<Barto>steering++
19:03:58<eggdrop>[karma] 'steering' now has 16 karma!
19:05:02<steering>I'll probably have to give it a znc, it's running on the NUC 6' away from me lol
19:05:14<steering>that startup time was a bit much
19:05:39<steering>also updated realname but... not gonna make it reconnect right now
19:06:02<steering>(or I could just throw it on one of my VPS but ugggggh that's so much more work xD)
19:07:28<steering>also, it doesn't know about any reminders, tells, etc after 2024-10-20 23:26:04.490997023 -0600
19:12:04<steering>unfortunately I didn't dump firebot's database, so I don't have its nickserv password or channel list
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19:48:02<@rewby>steering: Your efforts are appreciated
19:50:52<TheTechRobo>steering++
19:50:53<eggdrop>[karma] 'steering' now has 17 karma!
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21:19:56<that_lurker>-feed- T-Mobile, AT&T oppose unlocking rule, claim locked phones are good for users https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2024/10/t-mobile-att-oppose-unlocking-rule-claim-locked-phones-are-good-for-users/ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41908231
21:20:02<that_lurker>lol
21:29:16<AK>steering++
21:29:16<eggdrop>[karma] 'steering' now has 18 karma!
21:48:45<@JAA>steering: I think your reminders cutoff time is incorrect. A reminder set at 2024-10-21 04:55:32 triggered correctly.
21:49:15<@JAA>Oh, silly time zone.
21:49:17<@JAA>UTC++
21:49:18<eggdrop>[karma] 'UTC' now has 3 karma!
21:49:19<nicolas17>(:
21:51:44<steering>fine, $ TZ= stat lkarma.db | grep Change
21:51:44<steering>Change: 2024-10-21 05:26:04.490997023 +0000
21:51:46<steering>xP
21:52:00<@JAA>:-P
21:53:02<@JAA>I restored the two reminders from my logs.
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23:56:47<danwellby>2^136,279,841 -1 is a mersenne prime number https://www.mersenne.org/primes/?press=M136279841

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