00:00:00<eggdrop>[remind] JAA: Winamp source code
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00:22:21<@JAA>Uh
00:23:14<@JAA>Yeah right, they wanted to release the source code today.
00:23:24<@JAA>https://about.winamp.com/press/article/winamp-open-source-code
00:24:28<@JAA>Don't see anything yet though.
00:26:40<@JAA>!remindme 20h Is the Winamp source code out yet?
00:26:40<eggdrop>[remind] ok, i'll remind you at 2024-09-24T20:26:40Z
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01:44:07<nulldata>https://wpengine.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Cease-and-Desist-Letter-to-Automattic-and-Request-to-Preserve-Documents-Sent.pdf
01:44:29<nulldata>https://x.com/wpengine/status/1838350670564377051
01:44:29<eggdrop>nitter: https://nitter.lucabased.xyz/wpengine/status/1838350670564377051
01:46:15<nulldata>Context: WordPress made a post a few days ago saying WP Engine isn't WordPress because they disable the revisions feature. https://wordpress.org/news/2024/09/wp-engine/
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02:11:32<nulldata>https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/kaspersky-deletes-itself-installs-ultraav-antivirus-without-warning/
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03:17:14<nukke>>Not much is known about UltraAV besides being part of Pango Group,
03:17:22<nukke>oh jeez, Pango is still around? absolute trash company.
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03:31:25<steering>didnt they make some other AV before?
03:31:35<steering>i read that and swear I've heard of them before with some other product
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07:41:43<pabs>https://x.com/evilsocket/status/1838169889330135132
07:41:44<eggdrop>nitter: https://nitter.lucabased.xyz/evilsocket/status/1838169889330135132
07:42:26<that_lurker>Did it get deleted?
07:43:03<pabs>nope https://nitter.privacydev.net/evilsocket/status/1838169889330135132
07:43:39<pabs>"Unauthenticated RCE vs all GNU/Linux systems", plus some ranting about how crap responsible disclosure is
07:59:31<Czechball>Wow, that looks nasty. Waiting for disclosure.
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08:20:02<kpcyrd>pabs: I'm guessing it's a glibc bug, but also rumors have it that the bug is overhyped and lame
08:31:40<@OrIdow6>Yeah my first reaction includes some amount of skepticism
08:32:12<steering>kinda sounds like "here's a weird attack sequence in a configuration no one uses by default" :P
08:33:26<steering>it doesn't sound like glibc to me just because of "20 years", I was thinking sudo, but who knows
08:33:42<steering>(ok sudo is like as old as glibc but no one used it til 20 years ago)
08:35:25<@OrIdow6>Sudo makes sense except for it being an RCE
08:35:41<@OrIdow6>From what I understand of what that means
08:36:05<@OrIdow6>But ofc add in a bit of "it's overhyped" to the mix...
08:36:18<steering>yeah, fair
08:38:31<steering>i guess the only "all GNU/Linux systems" with AV:N would pretty much be kernel, glibc, or ssh
08:40:21<@OrIdow6>Not only that, "plus others"
08:40:40<@OrIdow6>But that may not mean much
08:40:56<steering>right, which mostly eliminates the kernel
08:43:47<@OrIdow6>.... unless they're a pedant about calling it GNU/Linux and they mean it works with Musl too haha
08:45:57<kpcyrd>if it's the kernel it would make sense to write "GNU/Linux"
08:46:23<kpcyrd>so I'm suspecting it's in the GNU operating system part, hence glibc
08:50:13<steering>yeah you're probably right :)
09:06:20<kpcyrd>*wouldn't
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09:35:45<pabs>maybe something in the glibc DNS resolver?
09:36:23<kpcyrd>that's also my guess
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17:26:19<@JAA>So Winamp is out, and as expected, the licence is shitty.
17:33:29<kiska>tldr of the licence?
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17:33:51<@JAA>Source available, you may not modify or fork it.
17:34:20<kiska>Oh... I see
17:34:24<@JAA>Oh, you may modify it for personal use.
17:34:38<@JAA>> You are granted the right to view, access, and study the source code of the software. You are granted the right to Modify the software for private use only.
17:36:24<@JAA>Not sure whether you could distribute patches. That'd be a question for a lawyer.
17:41:14<that_lurker>https://github.com/WinampDesktop/winamp/issues/6
17:44:27<@JAA>:-)
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17:48:57<that_lurker>part of me wants that to become the most forked github repo ever :-P
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18:16:48<Dango360>https://github.com/WinampDesktop/winamp/issues/17
18:17:36<Dango360>oh, and the dolby files are gone
18:21:56<that_lurker>welp now its in 146 forks :-P
18:23:03<that_lurker>or in the remove diff https://github.com/WinampDesktop/winamp/commit/8f2da7d67b795d504df6e9b6d468b134c2f0306b
18:28:27<@JAA>It would be a shame if someone had already put a bundle on IA.
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18:31:11<Dango360>git always keeps the files around, right? how would commit history even work if files could be nuked away?
18:32:47<@JAA>You can rewrite history, but otherwise, yes.
18:33:06<Dango360>"history is written by the victors"
18:35:04<Dango360>oh my god https://github.com/WinampDesktop/winamp/pull/18 "Fix licensing problems and remove proprietary code"
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18:35:39<Dango360>61,821 added, 4,659,278 removed
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18:36:33<@JAA>Hmm, what are the additions?
18:39:42<Dango360>they replaced everything with doom https://github.com/llunacb/winamp/tree/community
18:40:29<@JAA>Ah :-)
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18:54:51<that_lurker>https://github.com/WinampDesktop/winamp/tree/3ab19235a69d96ba0d3d3d32428ea6e7afef6478/Src/Plugins/DSP/sc_serv3
18:55:41<that_lurker>ohh look a free copy of SHOUTcast server :P
18:56:48<@JAA>https://github.com/WinampDesktop/winamp/pull/13
18:58:11<@JAA>I wonder why they removed the HE-AAC code in https://github.com/WinampDesktop/winamp/pull/21 though.
18:59:37<Dango360>JAA: "This software is company confidential information and the property of Dolby Sweden AB, and can not be reproduced or disclosed in any form without written authorization of Dolby Sweden AB."
18:59:52<Dango360>in Src/aacPlus/aacplusdectypes.h
19:00:00<@JAA>Oh yeah, just saw it, that's what the Dolby issue refers to, right.
19:00:16<@JAA>> Stop doing that, it's deleted, let it be deleted don't try to teach people how to view it in git history!
19:00:19<@JAA>:-D
19:00:32<Dango360>there's a lot of stuff in BuildTools
19:00:57<Dango360>oh, i've been looking for intel_ipp_6.1.1.035.7z
19:01:38<@JAA>inb4 repo is taken down because they realise how stupid all of this looks.
19:03:22<Dango360>they had a press release in may about opening the code up. they had over 4 months to figure it out
19:03:22<Dango360>https://about.winamp.com/press/article/winamp-open-source-code
19:04:40<@JAA>https://github.com/WinampDesktop/winamp/issues/22
19:04:58@JAA needs to order more popcorn.
19:05:46<Dango360>oh god
19:05:46<Dango360>https://github.com/WinampDesktop/winamp/tree/0ee0230131265316e472ba1392c5e3036f1ebe31/Src/codesign
19:05:59<Dango360>https://github.com/WinampDesktop/winamp/issues/22
19:39:50<@JAA>lol https://github.com/WinampDesktop/winamp/issues/24
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19:49:01<kiska>lmao, are they gonna pull the plug :D
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20:26:26<Barto>mirror that repo, mirror it!
20:26:40<eggdrop>[remind] JAA: Is the Winamp source code out yet?
20:26:45<Barto>yes!
20:26:54<@JAA>:-)
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20:33:01<Barto>https://github.com/WinampDesktop/winamp/commit/0003d3d743e5d0d4e4049e59ab92c86d142722a8 <- lol
20:33:58<Barto>#didntdogit101
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20:39:59<nukke>they had like 6 months to review the code
20:40:17<nukke>Winamp, it leaks the llama's proprietary ass
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21:22:15<nukke>"Valve announces Frog Protocols to bypass slow Wayland development and endless “discussion” " https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/merge_requests/31329/
21:26:18<Barto>and that's why I'm still using Xorg
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21:36:53<nukke>It's time for your nap, Grandpa
21:39:44Barto yells at cloud
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22:11:52<@JAA>Bet this person is fun at parties: https://github.com/WinampDesktop/winamp/issues/29
22:15:46<Barto>he works in an audit company
22:15:57<Barto>(speculation)
22:25:15<nukke>My theory is that they forgot the announcement from earlier in the year, someone emailed them and the company panicked because people were on holiday, so they had the Intern do a git push --force
22:25:45<Barto>it's always the trainee
22:26:10<nukke>Honestly they probably only have one (1) dev left
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22:51:47<steering>You are granted the right to Modify the software for private use only. You may make, run, and propagate Covered works that you do not Convey, without conditions, so long as your License otherwise remains in force.
22:51:52<steering>lame
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23:34:55<TheTechRobo>Anyone know if there's a way to revert to the old Firefox behaviour of Ctrl-Shift-T?
23:35:19<TheTechRobo>I prefer it opening the most recently closed tab in the current window, and using Ctrl-Shift-N to open the most recently closed window
23:35:27<@JAA>What did they fuck up this time?
23:35:44<@JAA>Ugh
23:35:56<TheTechRobo>It's been Chrome behaviour for a few months now, where Ctrl-Shift-T opens the most recently closed tab or window
23:36:08<TheTechRobo>Still trips me up
23:36:36<@JAA>I bet it's not mentioned in the release notes either.
23:36:45TheTechRobo does not remember what version they changed it in
23:40:20<@JAA>Looks like it changed back in version 116 already: https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/discussions/command-shift-t-shouldn-t-open-last-closed-window-it-should-open/td-p/38893
23:40:31<@JAA>I rarely use separate windows, so I never noticed.
23:41:37<@JAA>The list of keyboard shortcuts hasn't been updated yet though: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/keyboard-shortcuts-perform-firefox-tasks-quickly
23:43:51<TheTechRobo><@JAA> I rarely use separate windows, so I never noticed.
23:43:51<TheTechRobo>*sweats in 9 windows*
23:44:33<@JAA>I use entirely separate profiles more often than opening a new window within a session. :-)
23:46:50<TheTechRobo>I usually open a new window when I think of something unrelated to what I'm currently doing.