00:00:00 | <eggdrop> | [remind] JAA: Winamp source code |
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00:22:21 | <@JAA> | Uh |
00:23:14 | <@JAA> | Yeah right, they wanted to release the source code today. |
00:23:24 | <@JAA> | https://about.winamp.com/press/article/winamp-open-source-code |
00:24:28 | <@JAA> | Don't see anything yet though. |
00:26:40 | <@JAA> | !remindme 20h Is the Winamp source code out yet? |
00:26:40 | <eggdrop> | [remind] ok, i'll remind you at 2024-09-24T20:26:40Z |
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01:44:07 | <nulldata> | https://wpengine.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Cease-and-Desist-Letter-to-Automattic-and-Request-to-Preserve-Documents-Sent.pdf |
01:44:29 | <nulldata> | https://x.com/wpengine/status/1838350670564377051 |
01:44:29 | <eggdrop> | nitter: https://nitter.lucabased.xyz/wpengine/status/1838350670564377051 |
01:46:15 | <nulldata> | Context: WordPress made a post a few days ago saying WP Engine isn't WordPress because they disable the revisions feature. https://wordpress.org/news/2024/09/wp-engine/ |
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02:11:32 | <nulldata> | https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/kaspersky-deletes-itself-installs-ultraav-antivirus-without-warning/ |
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03:17:14 | <nukke> | >Not much is known about UltraAV besides being part of Pango Group, |
03:17:22 | <nukke> | oh jeez, Pango is still around? absolute trash company. |
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03:31:25 | <steering> | didnt they make some other AV before? |
03:31:35 | <steering> | i read that and swear I've heard of them before with some other product |
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07:41:43 | <pabs> | https://x.com/evilsocket/status/1838169889330135132 |
07:41:44 | <eggdrop> | nitter: https://nitter.lucabased.xyz/evilsocket/status/1838169889330135132 |
07:42:26 | <that_lurker> | Did it get deleted? |
07:43:03 | <pabs> | nope https://nitter.privacydev.net/evilsocket/status/1838169889330135132 |
07:43:39 | <pabs> | "Unauthenticated RCE vs all GNU/Linux systems", plus some ranting about how crap responsible disclosure is |
07:59:31 | <Czechball> | Wow, that looks nasty. Waiting for disclosure. |
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08:20:02 | <kpcyrd> | pabs: I'm guessing it's a glibc bug, but also rumors have it that the bug is overhyped and lame |
08:31:40 | <@OrIdow6> | Yeah my first reaction includes some amount of skepticism |
08:32:12 | <steering> | kinda sounds like "here's a weird attack sequence in a configuration no one uses by default" :P |
08:33:26 | <steering> | it doesn't sound like glibc to me just because of "20 years", I was thinking sudo, but who knows |
08:33:42 | <steering> | (ok sudo is like as old as glibc but no one used it til 20 years ago) |
08:35:25 | <@OrIdow6> | Sudo makes sense except for it being an RCE |
08:35:41 | <@OrIdow6> | From what I understand of what that means |
08:36:05 | <@OrIdow6> | But ofc add in a bit of "it's overhyped" to the mix... |
08:36:18 | <steering> | yeah, fair |
08:38:31 | <steering> | i guess the only "all GNU/Linux systems" with AV:N would pretty much be kernel, glibc, or ssh |
08:40:21 | <@OrIdow6> | Not only that, "plus others" |
08:40:40 | <@OrIdow6> | But that may not mean much |
08:40:56 | <steering> | right, which mostly eliminates the kernel |
08:43:47 | <@OrIdow6> | .... unless they're a pedant about calling it GNU/Linux and they mean it works with Musl too haha |
08:45:57 | <kpcyrd> | if it's the kernel it would make sense to write "GNU/Linux" |
08:46:23 | <kpcyrd> | so I'm suspecting it's in the GNU operating system part, hence glibc |
08:50:13 | <steering> | yeah you're probably right :) |
09:06:20 | <kpcyrd> | *wouldn't |
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09:35:45 | <pabs> | maybe something in the glibc DNS resolver? |
09:36:23 | <kpcyrd> | that's also my guess |
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17:26:19 | <@JAA> | So Winamp is out, and as expected, the licence is shitty. |
17:33:29 | <kiska> | tldr of the licence? |
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17:33:51 | <@JAA> | Source available, you may not modify or fork it. |
17:34:20 | <kiska> | Oh... I see |
17:34:24 | <@JAA> | Oh, you may modify it for personal use. |
17:34:38 | <@JAA> | > You are granted the right to view, access, and study the source code of the software. You are granted the right to Modify the software for private use only. |
17:36:24 | <@JAA> | Not sure whether you could distribute patches. That'd be a question for a lawyer. |
17:41:14 | <that_lurker> | https://github.com/WinampDesktop/winamp/issues/6 |
17:44:27 | <@JAA> | :-) |
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17:48:57 | <that_lurker> | part of me wants that to become the most forked github repo ever :-P |
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18:16:48 | <Dango360> | https://github.com/WinampDesktop/winamp/issues/17 |
18:17:36 | <Dango360> | oh, and the dolby files are gone |
18:21:56 | <that_lurker> | welp now its in 146 forks :-P |
18:23:03 | <that_lurker> | or in the remove diff https://github.com/WinampDesktop/winamp/commit/8f2da7d67b795d504df6e9b6d468b134c2f0306b |
18:28:27 | <@JAA> | It would be a shame if someone had already put a bundle on IA. |
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18:31:11 | <Dango360> | git always keeps the files around, right? how would commit history even work if files could be nuked away? |
18:32:47 | <@JAA> | You can rewrite history, but otherwise, yes. |
18:33:06 | <Dango360> | "history is written by the victors" |
18:35:04 | <Dango360> | oh my god https://github.com/WinampDesktop/winamp/pull/18 "Fix licensing problems and remove proprietary code" |
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18:35:39 | <Dango360> | 61,821 added, 4,659,278 removed |
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18:36:33 | <@JAA> | Hmm, what are the additions? |
18:39:42 | <Dango360> | they replaced everything with doom https://github.com/llunacb/winamp/tree/community |
18:40:29 | <@JAA> | Ah :-) |
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18:54:51 | <that_lurker> | https://github.com/WinampDesktop/winamp/tree/3ab19235a69d96ba0d3d3d32428ea6e7afef6478/Src/Plugins/DSP/sc_serv3 |
18:55:41 | <that_lurker> | ohh look a free copy of SHOUTcast server :P |
18:56:48 | <@JAA> | https://github.com/WinampDesktop/winamp/pull/13 |
18:58:11 | <@JAA> | I wonder why they removed the HE-AAC code in https://github.com/WinampDesktop/winamp/pull/21 though. |
18:59:37 | <Dango360> | JAA: "This software is company confidential information and the property of Dolby Sweden AB, and can not be reproduced or disclosed in any form without written authorization of Dolby Sweden AB." |
18:59:52 | <Dango360> | in Src/aacPlus/aacplusdectypes.h |
19:00:00 | <@JAA> | Oh yeah, just saw it, that's what the Dolby issue refers to, right. |
19:00:16 | <@JAA> | > Stop doing that, it's deleted, let it be deleted don't try to teach people how to view it in git history! |
19:00:19 | <@JAA> | :-D |
19:00:32 | <Dango360> | there's a lot of stuff in BuildTools |
19:00:57 | <Dango360> | oh, i've been looking for intel_ipp_6.1.1.035.7z |
19:01:38 | <@JAA> | inb4 repo is taken down because they realise how stupid all of this looks. |
19:03:22 | <Dango360> | they had a press release in may about opening the code up. they had over 4 months to figure it out |
19:03:22 | <Dango360> | https://about.winamp.com/press/article/winamp-open-source-code |
19:04:40 | <@JAA> | https://github.com/WinampDesktop/winamp/issues/22 |
19:04:58 | | @JAA needs to order more popcorn. |
19:05:46 | <Dango360> | oh god |
19:05:46 | <Dango360> | https://github.com/WinampDesktop/winamp/tree/0ee0230131265316e472ba1392c5e3036f1ebe31/Src/codesign |
19:05:59 | <Dango360> | https://github.com/WinampDesktop/winamp/issues/22 |
19:39:50 | <@JAA> | lol https://github.com/WinampDesktop/winamp/issues/24 |
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19:49:01 | <kiska> | lmao, are they gonna pull the plug :D |
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20:26:26 | <Barto> | mirror that repo, mirror it! |
20:26:40 | <eggdrop> | [remind] JAA: Is the Winamp source code out yet? |
20:26:45 | <Barto> | yes! |
20:26:54 | <@JAA> | :-) |
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20:33:01 | <Barto> | https://github.com/WinampDesktop/winamp/commit/0003d3d743e5d0d4e4049e59ab92c86d142722a8 <- lol |
20:33:58 | <Barto> | #didntdogit101 |
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20:39:59 | <nukke> | they had like 6 months to review the code |
20:40:17 | <nukke> | Winamp, it leaks the llama's proprietary ass |
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21:22:15 | <nukke> | "Valve announces Frog Protocols to bypass slow Wayland development and endless “discussion” " https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/merge_requests/31329/ |
21:26:18 | <Barto> | and that's why I'm still using Xorg |
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21:36:53 | <nukke> | It's time for your nap, Grandpa |
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22:11:52 | <@JAA> | Bet this person is fun at parties: https://github.com/WinampDesktop/winamp/issues/29 |
22:15:46 | <Barto> | he works in an audit company |
22:15:57 | <Barto> | (speculation) |
22:25:15 | <nukke> | My theory is that they forgot the announcement from earlier in the year, someone emailed them and the company panicked because people were on holiday, so they had the Intern do a git push --force |
22:25:45 | <Barto> | it's always the trainee |
22:26:10 | <nukke> | Honestly they probably only have one (1) dev left |
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22:51:47 | <steering> | You are granted the right to Modify the software for private use only. You may make, run, and propagate Covered works that you do not Convey, without conditions, so long as your License otherwise remains in force. |
22:51:52 | <steering> | lame |
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23:34:55 | <TheTechRobo> | Anyone know if there's a way to revert to the old Firefox behaviour of Ctrl-Shift-T? |
23:35:19 | <TheTechRobo> | I prefer it opening the most recently closed tab in the current window, and using Ctrl-Shift-N to open the most recently closed window |
23:35:27 | <@JAA> | What did they fuck up this time? |
23:35:44 | <@JAA> | Ugh |
23:35:56 | <TheTechRobo> | It's been Chrome behaviour for a few months now, where Ctrl-Shift-T opens the most recently closed tab or window |
23:36:08 | <TheTechRobo> | Still trips me up |
23:36:36 | <@JAA> | I bet it's not mentioned in the release notes either. |
23:36:45 | | TheTechRobo does not remember what version they changed it in |
23:40:20 | <@JAA> | Looks like it changed back in version 116 already: https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/discussions/command-shift-t-shouldn-t-open-last-closed-window-it-should-open/td-p/38893 |
23:40:31 | <@JAA> | I rarely use separate windows, so I never noticed. |
23:41:37 | <@JAA> | The list of keyboard shortcuts hasn't been updated yet though: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/keyboard-shortcuts-perform-firefox-tasks-quickly |
23:43:51 | <TheTechRobo> | <@JAA> I rarely use separate windows, so I never noticed. |
23:43:51 | <TheTechRobo> | *sweats in 9 windows* |
23:44:33 | <@JAA> | I use entirely separate profiles more often than opening a new window within a session. :-) |
23:46:50 | <TheTechRobo> | I usually open a new window when I think of something unrelated to what I'm currently doing. |