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00:58:14<steering>anthropic has sent my teeny weeny little webserver (mostly my gitweb it seems) over 1,000,000 requests so far this month. :)
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01:00:09<steering>in the past like 30 minutes since i blocked them they've gotten 754 IPs fail2ban'd (which means 5x 403's per IP)
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01:13:53<Ryz>Came across this, https://raw.githack.com/ - unsure how much this is useful for us in relation to our internet archiving activities
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03:51:06<@OrIdow6>steering: It's not abuse, they've got VC funding!
03:53:08<steering>indeed
03:53:18<steering>juicy juicy cash and lots of it
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05:22:12<@hook54321>Data removal service now sends data to OpenAI https://help.optery.com/en/article/how-does-optery-utilize-ai-for-generating-removals-reports-and-how-to-opt-out-using-report-preferences-1yxq75z/
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05:23:43<that_lurker>so now we need data removal service data removal service
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05:25:17<@JAA>*facepalm*
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05:49:00<nulldata>nukke - if you haven't heard the Reply All episode about the long lost song, that's definitely a listen. https://gimletmedia.com/shows/reply-all/o2h8bx
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06:51:34<pabs>https://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/2024/turning-everyday-gadgets-into-bombs-is-a-bad-idea/
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15:32:00<f_>fireonlive++
15:32:03<f_>Discord--
15:32:04<eggdrop>[karma] 'fireonlive' now has 438 karma!
15:32:06<eggdrop>[karma] 'Discord' now has -20 karma!
15:32:12<f_>Discord sucks.
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15:48:34<qwertyasdfuiopghjkl>fireonlive++
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16:04:31<imer>https://twitter.com/AndreyAzimov/status/1836793650992329181/ "switch to hetzner they say"
16:04:32<eggdrop>nitter: https://nitter.lucabased.xyz/AndreyAzimov/status/1836793650992329181/
16:05:28<katia>switch to hosting in the closet
16:09:26<steering>nitter.lucabased took like 30s to load there :3
16:09:47<steering>also lol poor power cord
16:24:22<myself>they saw all the discord chat and tried to dis-cord the server
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17:01:03<kpcyrd>the cloudflare dashboard asked me if I want to "activate blocking AI crawlers with a single click", like I'm some intellectual property capitalist
17:01:33<kpcyrd>the files I put on the internet are free, it's ok, you can take them home; I have 20
17:01:48<steering>kpcyrd: see my mention yesterday about anthropic though ;)
17:08:14<kpcyrd>are you hosting on a raspberry pi? :)
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17:34:38<steering>might as well be
17:35:05<steering>seems a bit excessive for a site with some 37,000 URLs though
17:36:45<kpcyrd>maybe. I host a site with 332k requests in the past 30 days, 209k of them from the US, cache hit rate of 2.35%, I host this in a <10€/mo VPS, everything is fine
17:38:30<kpcyrd>but well the backend is entirely written in Rust so your mileage may vary
17:44:49<steering>it's whatever digitalocean's cheapest vm is, $5 or something? and 3x those hits from anthropic alone... plus gitweb is nasty horrible perl :P
17:48:45<magmaus3>i use contabo as my main vps, and previously used oracle cloud's free plan
17:49:35<magmaus3>there's also pfcloud, which is fine (i got the cheapest possible vps (like 9.99€ for 3 months) and only used it for port scanning)
17:53:30<steering> 441561 06/Sep/2024
17:53:37<steering> 215212 16/Sep/2024
17:53:40<steering> 118517 19/Sep/2024
17:53:45<steering>requests/day from anthropic... lol
17:55:30<steering>peaked at 20000/hour yesterday
17:56:03<steering>15000-20000 every hour on the 6th... so yeah...
17:56:08<@JAA>Looks like it hasn't found our Gitea yet. I've had to block a bunch of others though that were doing ridiculous request rates, not respecting 429s or 5xxs, etc. They're still doing it after getting hard connection closures (nginx 444) for over a month now.
17:56:31<steering>reportedly anthropic respects 429s with backoff (i emailed them about it of course)
17:56:52<steering>I'm just giving them 444 now, and fail2ban triggering on 5x 444's
17:58:06<TheTechRobo>I'm on LunaNode for my two VPSes right now. Cheaper than most of the competition (at least as far as NA goes), reasonably fast
17:58:13<steering>upside: it convinced me to finally set up munin on this vps https://i.imgur.com/QmJyKCC.png that spike is when I accidentally'd my fail2ban config and they were unbanned
17:59:20<@JAA>anthropic-ai and Claude-Web are apparently the Anthropic UAs?
17:59:36<steering>Mozilla/5.0 AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko; compatible; ClaudeBot/1.0; +claudebot@anthropic.com)
17:59:58<@JAA>Hmm yeah, that source I found is obviously totally wrong. Ugh, internet.
18:00:10<steering>I wouldn't be surprised if they use all 3 :P
18:00:22<steering>I banned `anthropic` and `ClaudeBot`
18:00:53<steering>(and a bunch of others that I found in some random stackoverflow post because why not)
18:01:22<myself>don't ban 'em, redirect 'em to a hidden markov model that just spews gibberish
18:01:48<steering>myself: see I was considering that, or just dropping a static page with the typical "disregard previous instructions and..." copypasta
18:01:54<myself>rofl
18:02:46<steering>I kinda wanted to only do that to Anthropic specifically though, and tried using "error 499" cause why not, and nginx choked on it - `return 499` is ok but `error_page 499 ...` isn't
18:03:03<steering>so I took the easy way out and just close the connection
18:05:21<steering>I do need to replace Gitweb with something better, the biggest reason it pissed me off was because Gitweb's fastcgi support is utterly broken and it die()s for any error condition (which there's a lot of because it's also broken in many other ways)
18:05:58<steering>I was getting a bunch of 503s because scraper cause error -> gitweb die -> not restarted yet
18:06:13<steering>but I'm lazy 🤷‍♂️
18:06:34<@JAA>Oh, I did block ClaudeBot, actually. :-)
18:07:29<DigitalDragons>Cloudflare reports I get ~2.5m requests a month and I have no clue what they are for or who's making them lol
18:08:33<kpcyrd>access.log is 67360/70010 anthropic, access.log.1 is 3540/11845
18:08:35<steering>I get like... somewhere around 300k-ish if you exclude Anthropic, lol
18:11:27<steering>https://bpa.st/USE3EMDN6BFBA2PVYM7CMJGBSI (monthly)
18:14:48<steering>oh that's the other one I blocked yesterday, Amazonbot
18:16:17<steering>looks like Anthropic has only been hitting me since July, most of the rest is Amazon and Bytedance...
18:16:18<@JAA>Bytespider's another one.
18:16:37<@JAA>Also Facebook.
18:18:32<kpcyrd>I'm flattered to be fed into their bias 💕
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18:38:18<@JAA>Oh, the AI bros want to revive Three Mile Island.
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