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00:58:55<@JAA>Ah, OVH RBX had a sad today.
00:59:19<katia>Oh?
00:59:42<@JAA>https://network.status-ovhcloud.com/incidents/4fjr9mjs25q5
01:00:42<katia>All of rbx?
01:01:09<@JAA>Only a good chunk of it, it seems:
01:01:11<@JAA>> This incident affects: Infrastructure || RBX (RBX5, RBX6, RBX7, RBX8, RBX10).
01:01:22<katia>At least no migration to cloud yet
01:04:22<@JAA>Not entirely clear what was affected, really.
01:04:30<@JAA>There's this on one room of RBX7: https://bare-metal-servers.status-ovhcloud.com/incidents/2511dw88gr95
01:06:19<@JAA>My server went down twice (once at the original outage, and once when they switched power) and was then stuck in some boot loop. Apparently booting from local disk requires network so they can do PXE to then tell it to boot from disk.
01:07:23<steering>not too surprising to me, they probably just cycle the power whenever they need to reclaim a machine
01:08:10<@JAA>I mean, it's a dedi, the data's on the disk, which they'd probably wipe anyway.
01:10:25<@JAA>But I guess adjusting the boot target is easier this way than having to mess with the UEFI, maybe?
01:18:54<steering>I would imagine they don't want to have to go touch it just to reinstall or provision for a new user, just power cycle it and then PXE boot checks in and gets the "wipe and lay down an image" image...
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01:21:06<@JAA>Yeah
01:21:32<@JAA>Or when the user wants to go into rescue mode.
01:22:18<steering>that's secondary, they could charge for it otherwise after all :P
01:22:29<steering>https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/analysis/ovhcloud-fire-france-data-center/ I love how they repeatedly promised details about what happened
01:22:38<steering>"oh we just can't share anything yet because insurance isn't done" etc
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01:24:33<@JAA>They could, sure. Also for KVM. Yes, looking at you, Hetzner.
01:25:10<@JAA>To be fair, I think Hetzner actually has physical KVM devices that someone walks to your server and hooks up, based on what I've read.
01:29:39<steering>>Was OVHcloud lying or incompetent about Bluepad’s data? We don’t know, but we know one thing more. The data could have been saved, because OVHcloud retrieved an undamaged Bluepad hard drive from the wreckage. The data was still there - until OVHcloud broke its own procedures and switched the drive on, at which point it formatted itself and the data was lost.
01:29:44<steering>lol
01:30:24<@JAA>Oof
01:30:41<steering>- promised their own report on the fire, never delivered - got the fire inspectors report taken down - promised to start a whole lab dedicated to DC fire safety, never did
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04:40:32<that_lurker>how long ago was the fire?
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04:42:02<steering>March 10, 2021
04:43:10<steering>the article I linked has details but basically they stopped acknowledging it after ~2022
04:46:53<that_lurker>ok, then its odd. Those things do take time, but usually only two ish years max. I wonder if there is some board member or share holder pressure to keep the stuff from the public
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04:49:02<steering>yeah. those weren't the only promises either. free backups for all customers, etc
04:49:34<steering>kinda silly stuff tbh, "yeah sure you are"
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15:01:13<kiska>katia: Oh this was the longest I was on hold for during covid https://server8.kiska.pw/uploads/f5ca6fb237658fb5/20200828-095658-137678%40sip.myrepublic.com.au-outgoing.wav
15:01:23<kiska>Was just listening to this for a good 433 minutes
15:01:36katia turns on windows media player
15:02:05<katia>kiska, seems like they would speak english at least
15:02:20<kiska>During covid auspost did that to me
15:02:24<kiska>And I work there :D
15:02:40<kiska>But yeah, hetzner do speak English, you just need to ask them to do so
15:09:36<kiska>katia: Actually no... auspost wasn't the longest, it was nsw healthdirect during covid some reason it got rid of my vaccine booking and I had to call up, was on hold for 612 minutes
15:09:47<katia>nice
15:09:54<katia>how do you know you are not on hold anymore
15:09:55<kiska>I called up at 2pm, and they answered the phone at 12am...
15:10:07<kiska>You listen :D
15:10:18<@JAA>Your call is very important to us.
15:10:28<katia>Your call is very important to us.
15:10:56<kiska>https://server8.kiska.pw/uploads/0a25f6c040ba1d55/20210818-145627-1800571155%40sip.myrepublic.com.au-outgoing.wav Here is when I called and their "estimated" wait time
15:13:46<nukke>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7xn5zeJ4D4
15:13:53<nukke>Nothing beats Opus No. 1
15:14:11<kiska>I have been played that for 4 hours one time
15:15:07<kiska>katia: And here is NSW Healthdirect's hold music I sat listening to for 10 hours https://server8.kiska.pw/uploads/d0ee225ac43fb668/20210818-153204-1800571155%40sip.myrepublic.com.au-outgoing.wav
15:15:42<kiska>And the second version of their automated thing https://server8.kiska.pw/uploads/63f0972917cf7179/20210818-164827-1800571155%40sip.myrepublic.com.au-outgoing.wav
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16:09:42<nulldata>lol
16:12:22<@JAA>:-)
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19:11:49<TheTechRobo>JAA: What did it do this time? :P
19:41:54<steering>nukke: the comments on that video are great
19:44:15<nukke>wait what the heck? why is my username different
19:44:22<nukke>I never changed it to doll o_O
19:44:58<nukke>🤦 I had page translate on oops
19:46:01<steering>back when i used to work in customer service the worst part was listening to the same hold music any time another queue got backed up.
19:46:18<steering>every caller waiting on hold: screw this i'll just press a random different button at the menu, it's all the same person
19:46:38<steering>me: great, another 5-10 minutes of listening to hold music because i'm not allowed to help people with that
19:47:46<@JAA>TheTechRobo: Sorry, that's not safe to share here. It involved private parts. ;-)
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21:57:54<katia>JAA bonkìì
21:58:05<katia>JAA bonk++
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22:01:33<@JAA>ì
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22:23:10<nukke>https://www.anandtech.com/show/21542/end-of-the-road-an-anandtech-farewell
22:23:12<nukke>Holy shit
22:41:26<nulldata>TheTechRobo - pipe to null
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23:34:55<tech234a>nice subdomain name these people have here :) https://ubuntu-archive-team.ubuntu.com/phased-updates.html
23:35:09<tech234a>status of phased update rollouts on Ubuntu
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