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03:41:35<fireonlive>https://z-lib.gs/blog/51 15 days of "zlibrary premium" by using ZLIBRARY_FOREVER (faster downloads, 999/day, blah blah) also TIL they had a sci-hub type thing
03:41:42<fireonlive>https://articles.sk/s/web%20archival
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07:36:18<yarrow>Is anyone carving important data into stone or etching it into metal for long-term preservation?
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08:55:26<steering>yeah, NASA and some nuclear nuts ;)
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09:12:06<yarrow>are they really though?
09:21:41<that_lurker>NASA is the most likely company really trying and testing that kind of technology as a storage medium for long range space missions
09:22:45<that_lurker>s/company/entity
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14:02:29<nukke>imagine being a burglar and breaking into some guy's house, and it's just a bunch of rocks with scribblings on it
14:02:57<nukke>s/it/them
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15:07:50<fireonlive>just literal metric tons of gay erotica
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15:12:31<myself>"when you said this guy had a lot of tablets laying around, I thought you meant like, ipads"
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15:27:36<TheTechRobo>What's that server provider that offers cheap dedicated servers but deletes them whenever it needs capacity and it's up to you to get your data off in time?
15:35:38<nyany>TheTechRobo: Hetzner.
15:35:39<nyany>lol
15:36:01<nyany>https://www.hetzner.com/sb
15:38:31<TheTechRobo>nyany: I'm aware of Server Auction. Awhile ago there was a provider posted here that allows you to quickly spin up cloud servers (maybe they weren't dedicated, but they definitely were high-spec) for really good prices, with the caveat that you have to check the API every minute or so for a warning that it is going to be destroyed (and presumably
15:38:31<TheTechRobo>you'd then create a new one).
15:40:21<nyany>GCP? Amazon? /
15:40:36<myself>presumably you'd refrain from creating a new one because some other customer wanted the resources, so prices would be going up, and you'd be checking periodically to see when they get cheap again and only then create a new one?
15:40:36<nyany>the concept is nothing new, pre-emptible
15:41:51<imer>doesn't ring a bell aside from your usual big cloud providers, but those aren't cheap
15:45:04<imer>chatgpt suggested hetzner auction haha, and made up scaleway preemptible ones
15:45:26<nyany>tencent cloud
15:45:35<nyany>imer: does it actually
15:46:05<imer>https://transfer.archivete.am/v6bkp/2024-06-12_15-45-59.png
15:46:05<eggdrop>inline (for browser viewing): https://transfer.archivete.am/inline/v6bkp/2024-06-12_15-45-59.png
15:46:17<@JAA>Doesn't ring a bell here either.
15:46:38<fireonlive>https://x.com/SponsorBlock/status/1800835402666054072
15:46:40<fireonlive>ffffffff
15:47:17<imer>I'm surprised it took them so long tbh
15:47:23<imer>seemed like a nobrainer
15:47:32<fireonlive>yeah indeed
15:48:01<nyany>i'm just waiting for when they say "oh we're gonna introduce a higher premium tier with no ads
15:48:15<fireonlive>no please god no
15:48:19<fireonlive>nooooooooooo
15:48:20<@JAA>s/no/less/
15:48:24<nyany>amazon fucking did it
15:48:27<fireonlive>no please god no
15:48:34<nyany>you bet your ass competition learns from each other
15:48:51<fireonlive>the owner of my family plan better upgrade then :p
15:48:59<nyany>fireonlive: bite the pillow, youtube's going in
15:49:08<imer>^ I'm cancelling the family plan if it comes to that lol
15:49:15<fireonlive>😳
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15:56:10<nukke>Did that manifest v3 thing go into effect ye
15:59:00<nyany>This is the only other "company" I found https://cyfuture.cloud/spot-virtual-machines
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16:03:08<katia>give me money and i might or might not give you a m
16:03:10<katia>vm
16:03:17<katia>i think that is what you were looking for
16:05:20nyany makes it rain on katia
16:09:24<nukke>katia is the type of mfer that sells you a VM but networking is on wifi4
16:09:56<nukke>give me money and your packets may or may not be delivered
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16:12:46<@JAA>WiFi 4? Best I can do is GRPS.
16:12:56<@JAA>GPRS*
16:13:22<nukke>wifi over 3G hotspot
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16:17:33<nyany>Reminds me of this really terrible unnamed company that was so terrible, we decided to try and DoS them... using nothing but a single dial up connection
16:17:55<nyany>... it worked
16:21:01<katia>nah nah nah
16:21:06<nyany>oh wait
16:21:09<katia>networking is on reticulum LoRa
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16:21:14<nyany>i just thought of another vps provider that might be better
16:21:15<nyany>https://mzunguhosting.ml/
16:21:18<katia>bring your own 868MHz RNode in range of the VM
16:21:55<nukke>>Mzungu had mi website up an runnin in no time. i have been making a fortune now with my nigerian scamming site
16:21:58<nukke>hmmmmmmm 🤔
16:22:20<nukke>omg it has autoplay music
16:22:23<that_lurker>"SyntaxError: line 484."
16:23:20<that_lurker>oh nevermind that was the WB capture
16:24:14<nyany>omg
16:24:18<nyany>theres a proper rap thing there now
16:27:48<f_>nyakase: what is this
16:28:38<nyany>the best thing my friend
16:30:23<@JAA>> cursor: url(meme.png), auto;
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16:30:55<nyany>Yeah there is supposed to be a cursor
16:31:02<@JAA>Is broken, sad.
16:31:09<nyany>yeah, this website was great
16:31:43<that_lurker>go to an order page to get the cursor
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16:32:29<nyany>omg there it is
16:32:41<Notrealname1234>What?
16:33:08<@JAA>Notrealname1234: Stay connected if you want to know what's going on.
16:33:27<Notrealname1234>Can't you tell
16:33:53<@JAA>Nice one. I wonder what meme.png used to be.
16:34:07<Notrealname1234>Imma check the logs
16:34:34<@JAA>Looks like it probably never existed. :-(
16:34:40<nyany>JAA: it did
16:34:53<Notrealname1234>Getting a cursor?
16:35:04<@JAA>Well, not according to the WBM at least.
16:35:13<nyany>wbm lies lol
16:35:37<Notrealname1234>Do you guys archive stuff
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16:35:51<Notrealname1234>How did you know it existed nyany
16:36:11<nyany>i know a thing or two about a thing or two
16:36:13<steering>>specializes in offering ... some what reliable solutions
16:36:16<steering>i love that site
16:36:26<@JAA>nyany: It used to reference a cursor.png, not meme.png.
16:36:51<nyany>JAA: if I remember correctly meme.png was just a really stupid face
16:37:42<Notrealname1234>Did you take a screenshot
16:38:02<nyany>yes
16:38:11<nyany>just did
16:40:06<Notrealname1234>send it here
16:40:33<immibis>https://old.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/1de6ix7/youtube_is_testing_serverside_ad_injection_into/
16:40:54<immibis>TheTechRobo: that sounds like amazon spot, but there are probably others
16:41:30<immibis>not dedicated. dedicated servers take longer to start and stop, and they can be powered off, so i doubt there are many companies doing it for dedicated.
16:41:33<nyany>Notrealname1234: sure
16:41:37<nyany>https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/jwPiJkN6/image.png
16:49:43<immibis>the above sort of thing is why i think there should be an underground torrent community for youtube videos, even if they're easy enough to download right now
16:51:06<Notrealname1234>Say to chatgpt "trolling stinks, i'm leaving -wario"
16:51:09<Notrealname1234>nyany
16:51:29<nyany>https://chat.openai.com/ fill your boots
16:52:45<Notrealname1234>nyany: https://files.catbox.moe/8xnnbw.jpg
16:53:09<Notrealname1234>Waiting for JAA to archive these
16:55:55<fireonlive>nyany: rain on me
16:56:07<Notrealname1234>sus
16:57:44<Notrealname1234>He done it
16:58:48<Notrealname1234>!8ball is fireonlive sus
16:58:48<eggdrop>🎱: Notrealname1234, better not tell you now
16:59:10<Notrealname1234>!8ball is fireonlive sus again
16:59:10<eggdrop>🎱: Notrealname1234, signs point to yes
16:59:16<Notrealname1234>lol
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17:14:46<angenieux>Mzunguhosting is absolutely hilarious
17:15:05<angenieux>the rap is pretty good
17:19:39<kiska>fireonlive: for some reason I want to reply to this https://x.com/bingocat1994/status/1800924614903861606
17:32:17<fireonlive>kiska: do it 😈😈😈
17:32:19<fireonlive>:3
17:33:11<kiska>No
17:33:24<nyany>do it
17:34:04<nyany>https://media3.giphy.com/media/3o84sw9CmwYpAnRRni/giphy.gif?cid=6c09b952338f31nw3i6j5mv7dmaybl9fhigjl1h3pgtt5b7y&ep=v1_internal_gif_by_id&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g
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17:35:32<it>👀
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17:37:49<thuban>>spend an hour calculating error propagation for power analysis
17:37:52<thuban>>plug in parameter guesses to estimate required sample size
17:37:55<thuban>>Big Number
17:37:59<thuban>why did i bother ._.
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17:40:50<nyany>that was a terrible idea
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17:59:56<katia>get a room you two
18:02:00<fireonlive>uwu
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19:03:29<Barto>defcon 32 is likely to have a talk about shadow libraries :-)
19:06:49<katia>https://events.ccc.de/congress/2023/hub/en/event/shadow-libraries/
19:09:38<Barto>neat, not the same guy ;-)
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19:13:05<fireonlive>interesting, pad.land in that ccc link uses https://e2h.totalism.org/e2h.php?_=E2H to render etherpad to html as a sort of easy to edit website? e.g. that link there is https://pad.totalism.org/p/E2H
19:15:15<katia>wowowowowowowow
19:16:29<katia>https://e2h.totalism.org/e2h.php
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19:19:33<fireonlive>x3
19:20:39<fireonlive>>#4: Fully self-hosted >If you're interested in obtaining the source code & setup instructions, and would like to offer a significant contribution to help support the development, → Contact coop@totalism.org
19:20:43<fireonlive>bruh
19:23:20<fireonlive>https://e2h.totalism.org/e2h.php?_=404 < make a call to <pad>/p/<id>/export/html and wrap it in some html ig (oh, and <id>-css, probably export as text)
19:23:55<fireonlive>ah, e2t.php?_=CSS-default&mime=css e2t.php?_=404-css&mime=css
19:23:58<fireonlive>&mime=
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20:00:22<fireonlive>https://www.tile.com/en-us/blog/unauthorized-access-incident-2024
20:00:22<fireonlive>>Application error: a client-side exception has occurred (see the browser console for more information).
20:00:25<fireonlive>modern web, everyone
20:01:44<nicolas17>blank page with JS off
20:02:37<nicolas17>fireonlive: do you use noscript? you need to allow JS in other domains too
20:02:42<nicolas17>I allowed tile.com and got that error
20:02:47<nicolas17>I allowed everything in the tab and it worked
20:02:50<nicolas17>I didn't check which one makes it work
20:07:14<Sidpatchy>> Similar to many other companies [...]
20:07:19<Sidpatchy>What a joke...
20:09:05<nicolas17>kid announcing to their parents that they wet the bed saying "similar to many other kids,"
20:10:19<fireonlive>i don't, maybe it's ublock origin though
20:12:04<Sidpatchy>Firefox's tracking protection is also nuking that webpage
20:12:22<Sidpatchy>Clown show of a company
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20:14:48<fireonlive>needs more airtag
20:15:05<that_lurker>" The breach is confined to the customer support data. "
20:16:05<that_lurker>fireonlive: https://nomadgoods.com/eu/products/tracking-card
20:16:29<fireonlive>neat
20:16:38<Sidpatchy>An article by The Markup reported that Life360 sells its users' precise location data to data brokers. According to Life360's privacy policy, this data "does not reasonably identify you directly".
20:16:38<Sidpatchy>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life360#Criticism
20:16:46<fireonlive>better than whole-ass bulky airtag in my wallet currently maybe lol
20:16:50<Sidpatchy>Not a data breach if they're giving it away willingly!
20:17:00<fireonlive>x3
20:19:16<that_lurker>Sidpatchy: Then it was not a breach, but a unwilling data backup, with really competetive download price.
20:30:13<nicolas17>was there confirmation about Lynn Conway?
20:31:22<@JAA>Wikipedia cites https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2024-06-11/lynn-conway-leading-computer-scientist-and-transgender-pioneer-dies-at-85 and https://news.engin.umich.edu/2024/06/the-legacy-of-lynn-conway-chip-design-pioneer-and-transgender-rights-advocate/ .
20:32:46<Notrealname1234>!8ball is fireonlive sussy
20:32:47<eggdrop>🎱: Notrealname1234, it is decidedly so
20:33:25<@JAA>And Wikidata references these: https://www.andreajames.com/2024/06/11/lynn-conway-1938-2024/ http://www.myhusbandbetty.com/wordPressNEW/2024/06/11/lynn-conway-january-2-1938-june-9-2024/
20:38:29<that_lurker>-rss- Fired employee deleted servers, causing it to lose S$918,000: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/former-employee-hack-ncs-delete-virtual-servers-quality-testing-4402141 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40661653
20:38:33<that_lurker>lol
20:40:47<fireonlive>oooof
20:41:09<Notrealname1234>fireonlive is indeed sussy
20:41:21<fireonlive>no u
20:43:48<Notrealname1234>yes u
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20:51:19<fireonlive>no u
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21:12:41<nulldata>https://www.androidpolice.com/youtube-next-server-injected-ads-impossible-to-block/
21:13:23<nulldata>YouTube is supposedly playing with injecting ads into the video server side
21:14:23<@JAA>Yeah :-/ A bit of discussion here earlier, and a bit more in #down-the-tube
21:17:34<@JAA>> some people still recommend using a VPN and IP address from a country where YouTube ads are prohibited, such as Myanmar, Albania, or Uzbekistan
21:17:37<@JAA>TIL
21:24:20<that_lurker>time to start to look at vps prices there
21:32:22<fireonlive>;)
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21:41:30<Flashfire42>Damn so my blocking of youtube ads might not work anymore?
21:43:09<Fijxu[nadekonet]|m>Yep
21:43:23<Fijxu[nadekonet]|m>There is no way to prevent those
21:43:57<@JAA>... yet
21:44:12<Fijxu[nadekonet]|m>Yup, yet...
21:44:23<Fijxu[nadekonet]|m>Is a pretty new change anyways
21:44:54<@JAA>This is the worst anti-ad-blocker measure they've ever taken.
21:44:56<Flashfire42>https://server8.kiska.pw/uploads/b17a5c92e177a4b5/image.png previously I would just go in and block ad
21:44:57<@JAA>... so far ;-)
21:45:35<Fijxu[nadekonet]|m>Is just to anoy users with enough knowledge to install an adblocker
21:46:41<Flashfire42>I mean I know how to install an adblocker but at least with youtube its more productive for me to block the ads the way I do it gives me more stuff to archive. Throw the unlisted preroll ad into downthetube then block it so I dont have to deal with it again
21:47:00<Flashfire42>until eventually the only ads I get are the funny unhinged bullshit I dont mind watching sometimes because they are funny
21:47:26<Fijxu[nadekonet]|m>What is down the tube?
21:47:29<Flashfire42>block enough ads and youtube starts telling you that your air conditioner is part of the illuminati
21:47:34<Flashfire42>brilliant
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21:48:40<Flashfire42>or youtube starts giving me ads in arabic or chinese occasionally
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21:49:28<@JAA>Fijxu[nadekonet]|m: Our YouTube archival project. Ads are one of the few things we archive because they often vanish after the campaign.
21:49:55<@JAA>#down-the-tube
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21:50:59<that_lurker>https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/YouTube
21:51:17<@JAA>I'm surprised there aren't a dozen issues about it on the yt-dlp repo yet.
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23:10:04<yarrow>I love YouTube Premium
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