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00:27:42 | <fireonlive> | https://github.com/Pennyw0rth/NetExec/pull/335 |
00:27:58 | <fireonlive> | >Add Recall module for dumping all users Microsoft Recall DBs & screenshots |
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00:54:44 | <fireonlive> | https://dl.fireon.live/irc/4b852d2afceea6f0/ethicalai.png https://www.change.org/p/our-data-our-choice-stop-unconsented-ai-training-now there's something about this ad that's strange but I can't quite put a finger on it ;) |
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01:53:24 | <fireonlive> | https://dl.fireon.live/irc/0c9b8384362ebbb8/tweet-thread-baked-burger.html |
01:53:25 | <fireonlive> | enjoy |
01:57:59 | <nicolas17> | what in the goddamn fuck |
02:02:44 | <fireonlive> | 😂 |
02:03:13 | <fireonlive> | 👨🍳 |
02:04:31 | | fireonlive grabs the hotdog thread... |
02:06:04 | <fireonlive> | https://dl.fireon.live/irc/3b074b5813d1e982/tweet-thread-air-fried-hotdog.html |
02:12:08 | <@JAA> | The water at the end... lol |
02:13:57 | <fireonlive> | xP |
02:14:15 | <@JAA> | The rest I can sort of understand, but that... |
02:14:49 | <fireonlive> | rehydrate! |
02:21:47 | <nicolas17> | pabs: https://www.debian.org/News/2024/20240606 yikes |
02:24:57 | <nicolas17> | may want to AB that + https://www.debian.org/News/2024/judgement.pdf + https://www.wipo.int/amc/en/domains/decisions/pdf/2024/d2024-0770.pdf |
02:26:25 | <fireonlive> | nicolas17: done |
02:42:45 | <fireonlive> | https://twitter.com/TheInsiderPaper/status/1799033540425966075 |
02:42:49 | <fireonlive> | >WATCH: Boeing 777 trails flames on take-off before engine issue forces emergency landing in Canada |
02:43:24 | | @JAA resets the counter. |
02:43:32 | <fireonlive> | it's been 0 days... |
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03:10:42 | <nicolas17> | https://www.wipo.int/amc/en/domains/decisions/pdf/2024/d2024-0770.pdf#page=4 ok the guy's reply makes me think he may need psychiatric assistance |
03:11:53 | <fireonlive> | lmao |
03:11:54 | <fireonlive> | wow |
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05:45:12 | <fireonlive> | https://x.com/vmfunc/status/1799291381988655391 dont use github logged in for a while |
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07:11:49 | <fireonlive> | lol not patched |
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07:33:06 | <fireonlive> | they patched it |
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09:39:23 | <Barto> | Debian jugement from swiss authorities, funny stuffs |
09:40:00 | <Barto> | and the dude is a candidate for EU elections lol |
09:41:38 | <Barto> | the dude is living a step away from the uni i studied at lol |
09:43:32 | <Barto> | personal website hereby thrown into ab |
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11:16:34 | <that_lurker> | https://edition.cnn.com/2024/06/07/science/apollo-8-astronaut-william-anders-reportedly-killed-in-plane-crash/index.html |
11:18:14 | <that_lurker> | He took this photo https://www.nasa.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/apollo08_earthrise.jpg |
11:18:46 | <that_lurker> | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earthrise |
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13:10:55 | <nulldata> | https://metro.co.uk/2024/06/07/boeing-737-flight-uk-seconds-disaster-glitch-20990507/ |
13:12:38 | <nulldata> | fireonlive - how about adding a days since last Boeing incident counter to eggdrop? Should be easy - just always report 0 |
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16:03:44 | <that_lurker> | -rss- The Backrooms of the Internet Archive: https://blog.archive.org/2024/06/01/the-backrooms-of-the-internet-archive/ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40618079 |
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19:11:31 | <fireonlive> | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40618742#40618832 |
19:11:33 | <fireonlive> | o_O |
19:12:28 | <fireonlive> | >I quite like the fragility of it, it makes it more apparent that everything is transient. In a way I wish the IA had a half life on content, that it would decay over time, pages and images would be randomly deleted. Little by little it would rot and become nothing, a reflection of humanity. |
19:12:54 | | @JAA randomly deletes samwillis. |
19:13:13 | <fireonlive> | >:) |
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20:48:06 | <fireonlive> | >The 12-month Amazon Web Services Free Tier period associated with your Amazon Web Services account 190724040252 will expire on June 30, 2024. |
20:48:06 | <fireonlive> | hmmm, wonder how much that execute-api will cost me :p |
20:49:21 | <kiska> | Lots |
20:49:42 | <nicolas17> | doesn't your bill say you spent $2 and the free tier covers $2 for a total of $0? |
20:50:19 | <kiska> | Yay tracker websockets are coming alive! |
20:51:14 | <kiska> | I should learn influxdb retention policies and continuous queries... https://server8.kiska.pw/uploads/ed0ca84c5c805dbc/image.png |
20:52:54 | <fireonlive> | hmm *check* |
20:52:56 | <@JAA> | 92.2% 92.2% 92.2% 92.2% 92.2% |
20:53:06 | <@JAA> | Very useful axis, thanks Grafana! |
20:53:15 | <fireonlive> | i like how the emails they send link to 'awstrack.me' |
20:53:21 | <fireonlive> | at least it's https |
20:53:26 | <nicolas17> | kiska: don't do that at the last minute |
20:54:03 | <fireonlive> | i get emails that contain... business content... |
20:54:11 | <fireonlive> | and the tracking url to follow trough is http only |
20:54:13 | <fireonlive> | lmao |
20:54:29 | <kiska> | Is this axis more useful? https://server8.kiska.pw/uploads/b2f05bd5b583d212/image.png |
20:55:43 | <nicolas17> | kiska: https://github.com/influxdata/influxdb/issues/8088#issuecomment-426143558 |
20:56:15 | <Barto> | that_lurker: rip bill anders, i did archive the museum he worked with. Any other urls are welcomed. |
20:56:41 | <kiska> | nicolas17: then I am sol cause I don't have sufficient disk to perform that operation :D |
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20:57:09 | <nicolas17> | depends if you care about storing lower-res older data |
20:59:17 | <kiska> | I think what I'll do is use autogen to store single websocket data, then use retention policy "whatever" and downsample it to 1s or something... |
20:59:21 | <that_lurker> | Barto: Don't think there is others. NASA of course has a lot, but that should be archived already |
20:59:24 | <fireonlive> | apparently i had 42 requets last month |
20:59:34 | <kiska> | with autogen I think I'll set it for 30 days |
20:59:41 | <nicolas17> | yeah but what do you do with your current data? |
20:59:49 | <kiska> | Display it to grafana :D |
20:59:56 | <kiska> | Basically nothing |
21:00:19 | <nicolas17> | do you throw away data older than 30d? |
21:00:20 | <kiska> | So I guess I need a bigger disk first |
21:00:29 | <kiska> | Nope I don't throw away data, yet |
21:00:33 | <nicolas17> | to downsample it to 1s resolution before deleting it, you need more disk space :P |
21:00:40 | <fireonlive> | aw kiska it's fine the way it is |
21:00:47 | <nicolas17> | hence why it's best to plan the retention and downsampling since day 1 |
21:00:51 | <kiska> | Tell me that when I run out of disk space |
21:01:01 | <fireonlive> | :p |
21:01:15 | <Barto> | that_lurker: yeah, nasa is out of question |
21:01:22 | <kiska> | My previous solutions have been asking advin servers to upgrade my VM |
21:01:34 | <kiska> | Obv that is going to be untentable :D |
21:02:27 | <fireonlive> | yeet all raw websocket data to IA |
21:02:30 | <kiska> | nicolas17: I could perhaps downsample the inactive projects first, then delete them |
21:02:40 | <kiska> | fireonlive: I am sure the IA will love that |
21:02:47 | <fireonlive> | very much :D |
21:03:34 | <kiska> | I think the rate of ingest would be about 5Mb/s and perhaps... 70 PUT req/s |
21:03:36 | <nicolas17> | delete the data from inactive projects in autogen, but not in the downsampled retention policy? see the ticket :P |
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21:04:30 | <kiska> | What I'll do is downsample the data and put into RP "5sRP" and then set autogen for that project to 30d retention |
21:04:38 | <kiska> | That should work? |
21:05:05 | <nicolas17> | do you use different influxdb databases for each project? |
21:05:19 | <kiska> | Different "measurements" |
21:05:25 | <kiska> | Not databases |
21:05:41 | <nicolas17> | database.rp.measurement |
21:05:55 | <nicolas17> | if you alter autogen to 30d, it will erase old data for all measurements |
21:06:58 | <kiska> | RIP I have seemed to forgot my password to influx :D |
21:07:20 | <kiska> | Ok nevermind was using wrong username |
21:08:28 | <fireonlive> | hunter2 |
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21:12:24 | <kiska> | nicolas17: My schema: https://paste.kiska.pw/PeptizingGymnasiums |
21:12:36 | <kiska> | Obv repeat for all projects |
21:13:03 | <kiska> | Its a very shit schema isn't it :D |
21:13:45 | <kiska> | I might just move this into OVH just to not deal with it :D |
21:19:39 | <katia> | https://reclaimthenet.org/eu-plans-mass-surveillance-data-collection-device-monitoring-encryption-backdoors |
21:25:06 | <fireonlive> | >i post ai stuff to inspire actual artists, go support them |
21:25:11 | <fireonlive> | .....ok |
21:25:40 | <fireonlive> | sound logic checks out |
21:41:36 | <kiska> | nicolas17: Have I stunned you on how bad my schema is? :D |
21:43:31 | <steering> | kiska: what is that a schema for? influxdb? |
21:43:38 | <kiska> | yeah |
21:43:54 | <kiska> | Its very shit |
21:44:05 | <kiska> | Schema is for https://grafana3.kiska.pw/d/000000/archiveteam-tracker-stats |
21:47:24 | <steering> | (i know nothing about influxdb) what would be the analogy to an old school (sql) db here? the "series" are tables/keys in a table and the fields are columns? |
21:49:10 | <steering> | >Each point consists of several key-value pairs called the fieldset and a timestamp. When grouped together by a set of key-value pairs called the tagset, these define a series. Finally, series are grouped together by a string identifier to form a measurement. |
21:49:25 | <steering> | (from the wikipedia article) interesting hierarchy. |
21:51:39 | <kiska> | Here is a sample of the data https://paste.kiska.pw/ProcrastinatedFriend |
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21:56:44 | <kiska> | steering: I hope you can visualise the database now |
21:56:46 | <kiska> | :D |
22:00:00 | <steering> | ah, yeah |
22:00:46 | <steering> | that's a pretty nice way to be able to define it. better than *glares* rrdtool :P |
22:01:55 | <kiska> | lmao |
22:03:25 | <kiska> | however I am running out of space |
22:03:28 | <kiska> | steering: /dev/sda2 237G 209G 18G 93% / |
22:03:58 | <kiska> | So I am now thinking of downsampling the data or something |
22:05:05 | <@JAA> | Hey look, kiska is rediscovering why the official Grafana instance no longer exists. :-D |
22:05:28 | <kiska> | :D |
22:05:46 | <kiska> | Well that was one of the reasons |
22:12:07 | <kiska> | steering: here it is with a little more readable timestamps https://paste.kiska.pw/ForestallsMoros |
22:13:10 | <kiska> | JAA: The one thing that can help with the longevity of the grafana instance is not having thousands of samples per second stored :D |
22:13:26 | <@JAA> | :o |
22:13:39 | <kiska> | See the paste :D |
22:13:58 | <@JAA> | I don't actually know the details about the official instance. Wasn't me who ran it. |
22:14:21 | <kiska> | Yeah one of the issues people kept hammering days worth of data at a time |
22:14:31 | <kiska> | And at very low intervals ie 10s or 30s |
22:14:50 | <@JAA> | Yeah, and Grafana or whatever layer underneath it doesn't cache that very well. |
22:14:56 | <kiska> | So influx got very overloaded |
22:15:06 | <kiska> | And influx doesn't cache when using the now() feature |
22:15:18 | <kiska> | Or at least that is how I understand it |
22:15:29 | <kiska> | At least the data is in memory :D |
22:19:08 | <@JAA> | It could cache time slices so it would only have to fetch the latest block of data. |
22:24:22 | <kiska> | Yeah that would be smart :D |
22:25:11 | <kiska> | [1717514.306290] Out of memory: Killed process 760 (influxd) total-vm:240768848kB, anon-rss:31309036kB, file-rss:0kB, shmem-rss:0kB, UID:111 pgtables:168664kB oom_score_adj:0 |
22:25:13 | <kiska> | Oh... |
22:29:04 | <@JAA> | RIP |
22:31:00 | <that_lurker> | kiska you need https://github.com/facebookincubator/oomd |
22:32:23 | <@JAA> | I like that it's coming from Facebook. lol |
22:33:37 | <kiska> | that_lurker: well no... there is only 1 process on this machine that uses a lot of memory and that is influxdb |
22:33:48 | <kiska> | So this wouldn't help |
22:34:06 | <kiska> | oomd would still have killed influxd so... |
22:34:10 | <@JAA> | Well, it would kill the process before the penguin could get angry. |
22:34:20 | <@JAA> | But yeah, same outcome |
22:34:22 | <kiska> | Well that is true :D |
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