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00:18:11 | <fireonlive> | slack maybe using private data for AI training https://x.com/quinnypig/status/1791220276350390575?s=12 |
00:19:13 | <@JAA> | <surprised_pikachu.png> |
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01:39:32 | <fireonlive> | https://github.com/ircv3/ircv3-ideas/issues/100 |
01:39:37 | <fireonlive> | JAA: wouldn't this be fun |
01:44:07 | <@JAA> | There's a very lengthy discussion about it elsewhere. |
01:44:36 | <@JAA> | Someone linked it the other day, I think? |
01:45:21 | <fireonlive> | oh maybe it was me |
01:45:24 | <fireonlive> | hm |
01:45:47 | <@JAA> | Hmm no, you just linked that one the other day. I thought I saw a longer one before. |
01:46:01 | <fireonlive> | ahh hmm |
01:46:49 | <@JAA> | The in-band base64 idea is glorious. Someone did that a while ago on a Libera channel. When they were unquieted half an hour later, they were still going. lol |
01:47:47 | <fireonlive> | lmao |
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02:07:19 | <pabs> | heh #fire-channels is a fun ride. join, get invited to some channels, kicked, rejoin, more invites, kicked, banned :) |
02:07:49 | <fireonlive> | haha :) |
02:08:01 | <fireonlive> | i forgot to couple the ban |
02:08:02 | <pabs> | fireonlive: maybe drop the ban, since if you add new channels I can't find out about them now :) |
02:10:05 | <fireonlive> | ah true :) |
02:10:22 | <fireonlive> | it was meant to prevent auto-rejoin so quickly but it's a bit slow |
02:25:44 | <@JAA> | Old and busted: Helldiver gets review-bombed because Sony requires a linked PSN account. |
02:25:55 | <@JAA> | New and hot: Ghost of Tsushima gets review-bombed because Sony requires a linked PSN account. |
02:38:33 | <fireonlive> | :3 |
02:55:30 | <pabs> | about the Debian xz backdoor response: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/MiniDebConf-Berlin-xz |
02:59:08 | <Harzilein> | ls |
02:59:09 | <Harzilein> | oops |
02:59:36 | <@JAA> | . .. porn |
02:59:42 | <Harzilein> | cd porn |
02:59:58 | <Harzilein> | mpv --shuffle . |
03:02:00 | <@JAA> | mpv++ |
03:02:01 | <eggdrop> | [karma] 'mpv' now has 1 karma! |
03:07:15 | <Harzilein> | mpv++ |
03:07:15 | <eggdrop> | [karma] 'mpv' now has 2 karma! |
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04:04:13 | <fireonlive> | nsfw/TIL: https://www.edgemedianetwork.com/story/333086 |
04:23:41 | <fireonlive> | +rss- A transport protocol's view of Starlink: https://www.potaroo.net/ispcol/2024-05/starlink-tcp.html https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40384959 |
04:33:07 | <fireonlive> | >Our systems have detected unusual traffic from your computer network. This page checks to see if it's really you sending the requests, and not a robot. Why did this happen? |
04:33:26 | <fireonlive> | "Why did this happen?" they won't tell you, but it's because you know what "inurl:" etc are |
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04:49:50 | <pabs> | https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/05/archie-the-internets-first-search-engine-is-rescued-and-running/ |
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05:51:45 | <@JAA> | https://realsocial.life/@WearsHats/112449961604246276/embed :-) |
05:59:37 | <fireonlive> | :) |
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14:43:13 | <nukke> | https://about.winamp.com/press/article/winamp-open-source-code |
15:17:53 | <steering> | :o |
15:47:04 | <fireonlive> | that_lurker: what do you notice with #// and soju? |
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16:17:00 | <that_lurker> | fireonlive: When I leave the messages from that channel appear in an empty #-- channel. Either that is supposed to be a catch up channel or most likely the #// channel name causes something odd to happen |
16:17:20 | <fireonlive> | ah! interesting |
16:17:41 | <that_lurker> | Lets see if it happens again when I join the channel |
16:24:15 | <fireonlive> | :) |
16:24:29 | <fireonlive> | https://t.me/durov/275 https://t.me/durov/277 |
16:24:36 | <fireonlive> | i don't want to live on this planet anymore |
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17:18:45 | <@arkiver> | hmm the "tapping hashtags" idea sounds very interesting |
17:18:53 | <@arkiver> | i hope it will be publicly usable - without account |
17:18:56 | <@arkiver> | fireonlive: ^ |
17:19:18 | <@arkiver> | on the notcoin stuff and the app, i guess someone found a new way to create hype for a pump and dump scheme |
17:19:35 | <@arkiver> | now other people will do the same, and then after some time it doesn't work well anymore |
17:23:11 | <nicolas17> | "hundreds of millions of dollars in value were created for Telegram users in this miniapp out of nowhere in a matter of months" |
17:23:36 | <nicolas17> | ...you can't create value out of nowhere this is literally an empty bubble |
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17:29:44 | <steering> | in a world of fiat currency, things have value because people think they have value. (don't get me wrong this is an empty bubble yeah but what about bitcoin?) |
17:30:27 | <fireonlive> | arkiver: agreed, hopefully we can grab some public hashtags at the very least :) |
17:31:32 | <nicolas17> | these shitcoins have value because people think they can sell them to a bigger fool later |
17:32:37 | <steering> | lol, fair |
17:36:27 | <@arkiver> | fireonlive: perhaps even better for discovering channels |
17:40:25 | <fireonlive> | ah indeed! |
17:42:40 | <f_> | that_lurker: Are you using soju? |
17:43:18 | <f_> | When using soju configured to store logs in plaintext it happens, because "/" isn't a valid char in files. |
17:44:20 | | fireonlive 👀 the lounge merging a few channel's logs all into one file because of that same issue |
17:44:33 | <fireonlive> | (and irssi does too iirc) |
17:44:39 | <f_> | I'm not into web clients |
17:44:55 | <f_> | :P |
17:45:12 | <fireonlive> | i'm on my phone a lot and like push notifs |
17:45:15 | <f_> | I discovered this when I wanted to PM "f_/h" on some network to test PMs |
17:45:25 | <fireonlive> | also ones i can just click on and reply quickly |
17:45:34 | <f_> | then reported the "f_-h" shows up instead of "f_/h" |
17:45:36 | <f_> | in #soju |
17:45:46 | <fireonlive> | (though TL sucks at PNs too sometimes) |
17:45:55 | <fireonlive> | ahh |
17:46:02 | <f_> | This shouldn't happen if you're storing logs in sqlite I think |
17:46:12 | <f_> | fireonlive: soju also has push notifs |
17:46:20 | <fireonlive> | hmm |
17:46:28 | <f_> | well, goguma + soju |
17:46:41 | <fireonlive> | might be worth a try |
17:46:52 | <f_> | #soju on libera |
17:55:57 | <steering> | just name the chan #⧸⧸ |
17:56:01 | <steering> | duh |
17:56:33 | <steering> | (:p) |
18:04:18 | <that_lurker> | f_: Oh thats interesting. Need to change that to something else then |
18:07:45 | <f_> | that_lurker: yeah |
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18:10:27 | <that_lurker> | good thing there is db as an option |
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18:19:59 | <that_lurker> | hmm and of course its not as simple as I thought it would be |
18:27:00 | <that_lurker> | oh nevermind now its just loggin to the main database. |
18:28:09 | <katia> | that_lurker, how's soju |
18:28:30 | <katia> | for each setting change do you need to restart? |
18:28:44 | <katia> | or reconnect |
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18:35:29 | <fireonlive> | is the database schema as................ |
18:35:37 | <fireonlive> | ................lovely...... as the lounge's |
18:37:19 | <immibis> | months after deleting awards which everyone said was a terrible idea, and now being beholden to shareholders, reddit brings back awards because it admits removing them was a terrible idea |
18:37:52 | <immibis> | it's so stupid it makes you think there was an ulterior motive, like depressing the IPO price |
18:38:41 | <immibis> | or resetting everyone's microtransaction tokens to zero (it used to be "coins", now it's "gold" and obviously don't have any gold even if you had coins before) |
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18:45:38 | <that_lurker> | fireonlive: Looks nicer |
18:45:44 | <fireonlive> | sweet |
18:46:44 | <that_lurker> | Hating that I now have no logs though :-( |
18:47:09 | <katia> | z n c |
18:47:27 | <that_lurker> | Thought about inserting all lounge logs into the db, but might not be the best idead |
18:47:59 | <katia> | is there search that_lurker? |
18:48:46 | <that_lurker> | no |
18:50:07 | <Notrealname1234> | fireonpants? |
18:50:16 | <fireonlive> | hm you'd have to convert formats i guess |
18:52:35 | <that_lurker> | katia: Senpai supports the /search functionality though and that is F A S T |
18:52:46 | <katia> | s-senpai? |
18:53:24 | <Notrealname1234> | fireonlive: fireonpants |
18:53:34 | <katia> | https://git.sr.ht/~delthas/senpai/ |
18:53:35 | <that_lurker> | katia bon... I mean the epicness that is ircv3 https://github.com/ircv3/ircv3-specifications/pull/496 |
18:53:36 | <fireonlive> | mine seem to not be on fire |
18:56:28 | <fireonlive> | as our prophet Asher Roth once gifted upon us: "time isn't wasted when you're getting wasted" |
18:56:33 | <fireonlive> | have fun everyone |
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19:11:38 | <fireonlive> | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40391299 lol twitter's breaking stuff |
19:12:00 | <fireonlive> | link to tweet? broken |
19:12:17 | <fireonlive> | maybe hn stripped sth but idk |
19:14:44 | <thuban> | gross |
19:18:16 | <fireonlive> | yeah :/ |
19:18:25 | <fireonlive> | #archiveteam-twitter is having troubles too |
19:18:51 | <fireonlive> | normal tweet links are still working, but embedded tweets are linked as something like: https://twitter.com/x/migrate?tok=eyJlIjoiL2FydG9mbm9pc2VvZmZpYy9zdGF0dXMvMTc5MTQxMDk1Mzc4OTA3NTcwMyIsInQiOjE3MTU5Njk1NzF9f%2BFZZNeS78phff1AnPGVvg%3D%3D |
19:19:38 | <fireonlive> | which... doesn't load the tweet at all. when i first went to x.com in my browser i saw that briefly, so i think it's to bring over cookies or something? |
19:24:44 | <f_> | that_lurker: soju does support searching in logs |
19:24:49 | <f_> | and senpai uses that feature. |
19:25:18 | <that_lurker> | yeah, but gamja does not integrate that as far as I know |
19:30:06 | <@OrIdow6> | The Telegram founder seems a bit nuts but in a way that makes me think he is good for privacy |
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19:31:47 | <joepie91|m> | dubious |
19:32:13 | <joepie91|m> | morals are one thing, but it does actually need to come with competence to turn it into something helpful |
19:32:31 | <joepie91|m> | and there are uh. quite a few questions about that in his case |
19:32:55 | <joepie91|m> | (competence on the non-technical aspects of that job, specifically, as well as some of the technical aspects) |
19:37:57 | <fireonlive> | telegram is like the only good chat app UX wise :/ |
19:38:00 | <fireonlive> | which really fucking sucks |
19:38:49 | <fireonlive> | though tg's founder claiming signal is backdoored is kinda unhinged |
19:39:31 | <fireonlive> | https://t.me/durov/274 |
19:41:22 | <fireonlive> | >An alarming number of important people I’ve spoken to remarked that their “private” Signal messages had been exploited against them in US courts or media. But whenever somebody raises doubt about their encryption, Signal’s typical response is “we are open source so anyone can verify that everything is all right”. That, however, is a |
19:41:22 | <fireonlive> | trick 🤡 |
19:41:48 | <fireonlive> | >The US government spent $3M to build Signal’s encryption, and today the exact same encryption is implemented in WhatsApp, Facebook Messenger, Google Messages and even Skype. It looks almost as if big tech in the US is not allowed to build its own encryption protocols that would be independent of government interference |
19:42:09 | <fireonlive> | joepie91|m: sound logical to you eh? |
19:49:30 | <steering> | {"e":"/artofnoiseoffic/status/1791410953789075703","t":1715969571}�Ydג��a}�@�� |
19:49:41 | <steering> | at least you should be able to pull out what the link is meant to be? lol |
19:50:28 | <fireonlive> | ooh |
20:38:34 | <nulldata> | https://www.ign.com/articles/take-two-ceo-on-intercept-roll7-we-didnt-shutter-those-studios |
20:39:15 | <nulldata> | Basic summary is https://lounge.nulldata.foo/uploads/4f589c4509e0ed56/image.png |
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22:11:17 | <fireonlive> | https://dl.fireon.live/irc/7b5a3eef8a159717/chatgpt.png |
22:11:20 | <fireonlive> | do i dare??? |
22:13:58 | <Notrealname1234> | Use Safari |
22:18:39 | <nukke> | Whenever I remember fire uses a mac I think to myself, "I can fix him" |
22:19:10 | <fireonlive> | i'd like to see you try ;) |
22:20:10 | <nukke> | 😳 |
22:23:10 | <steering> | Cloudflare be like "e.g. User-agent" and also be like " '(any(http.request.headers["User-agent"][*] contains "foo") is not a valid value for expression because it is not possible to use an uppercase string" |
22:23:14 | <steering> | doubleplus good |
22:25:21 | <that_lurker> | fireonlive: I mean this could be fun on those lonely days https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgYi3Wr7v_g |
22:32:31 | <fireonlive> | buttflare-- |
22:32:32 | <eggdrop> | [karma] 'buttflare' now has -10 karma! |
22:33:04 | <fireonlive> | that_lurker: hmm give it a male voice and i don't need to look for a boyfriend anymore maybe |
22:33:05 | <fireonlive> | :p |
22:36:23 | <Notrealname1234> | CloudButt |
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22:40:36 | <that_lurker> | fireonlive: It had one I believe or at least is going to get one once the voice actors create it |
22:41:09 | <fireonlive> | sweet |
22:41:33 | <fireonlive> | if daddy nukke falls though i have a backup plan |
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22:42:45 | <that_lurker> | fireonlive: One day you can get it to mimic the voice of Johnny Sins for you |
22:43:54 | <fireonlive> | :3 |
23:11:51 | <immibis> | fireonlive: at least one actual backdoor was discovered in telegram, a way for the server to intercept connections while keeping displayed key fingerprints the same |
23:12:33 | <nicolas17> | "backdoor" sounds intentional |
23:17:26 | <nukke> | I bet Signal devs put that in there to make telegram look bad |
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23:28:29 | <fireonlive> | my fucking banking app made me choose if i wanted to accept advertising cookies hahahahahahahaha |
23:28:40 | <fireonlive> | so they could share info with their partners |
23:28:48 | <nicolas17> | fireonlive: my banking app sends me promotions via push notifications |
23:28:51 | <fireonlive> | our world is so fucked |
23:28:56 | <fireonlive> | nicolas17: christ |
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23:29:08 | <nicolas17> | of course I could disable push notifications for the whole app but then I won't get notified about transfers and stuff |
23:29:20 | <fireonlive> | right?? |
23:29:40 | <nicolas17> | I complained to support, of course I didn't get a satisfactory answer |
23:29:43 | <fireonlive> | fucking koho - a scam of a "bank" imo - did that with me and i was like yeah fuck that |
23:29:45 | <nicolas17> | so I complained to Apple |
23:29:47 | <nicolas17> | since |
23:29:49 | <nicolas17> | "Push Notifications should not be used for promotions or direct marketing purposes unless customers have explicitly opted in to receive them via consent language displayed in your app’s UI, and you provide a method in your app for a user to opt out from receiving such messages." |
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23:30:04 | <nicolas17> | so that Apple can also disappoint me by doing nothing about it |
23:30:49 | <fireonlive> | :( |
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23:58:51 | <immibis> | Signal also has one huge problem: it's closed-source. |
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