00:02:33<@JAA>Let's see how that work on an official standard goes.
00:07:50<nicolas17>https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-detecting-unwanted-location-trackers/01/
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00:27:46<pabs>already bypassed: https://github.com/Guinn-Partners/esp32-airtag
00:30:14<nicolas17>well yeah or you could buy one of those chinese things with a GPS and a cellular modem
00:30:48<pabs>I'm guessing those are more conspicuous?
00:32:00<nicolas17>IIRC there was a case where a journalist's iPhone was taken by russian airport security and returned with one of those trackers inside
00:32:06<nicolas17>plugged to the phone's battery
00:33:13<nicolas17>the problem with airtags is that any idiot can easily buy one and sneak it into a pocket, but hidden trackers have existed for ages
00:33:39<nicolas17>someone going out of their way to build a device with an esp32 has lots of other options not using Apple's network
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01:19:05<fireonlive>https://old.reddit.com/r/unpopularopinion/comments/loa9ul/
01:19:06<fireonlive>for
01:19:10<fireonlive>your reading eyes
01:22:08<fireonlive>esp for nicolas17 :)
01:24:33<nicolas17>what did you make me read
01:25:04<fireonlive>xD
01:32:10<nulldata>A bold new vision for the Gates Foundation now that Melinda is gone. https://dataexchange-voy.gatesfoundation.org/
01:32:42<fireonlive>smart
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05:03:44<nukke>I hate the fact that I'm considering paying for an Adobe subscription to edit my photos :(
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05:05:56<fireonlive>nukke: noooooooooo
05:10:33<nukke>I even thought about switching to a Mac/iPhone
05:11:54<fireonlive>DO
05:11:54<fireonlive>IT
05:11:57<fireonlive>D
05:11:57<fireonlive>O
05:11:57<fireonlive>I
05:11:57<fireonlive>T
05:12:37<nicolas17>https://twitter.com/zacbowden/status/1790182053927133342
05:21:54<nukke>Cortana? more like Cortada
05:22:01<nukke>(cause they got rid of it)
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11:38:44<kpcyrd>nulldata: that looks like a subdomain takeover 👀
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11:46:01<nulldata>Re Adobe and Apple - are you sure your head didn't get hit on one of your Boeing flights?
11:46:12<nulldata>nukke
11:46:55<katia>he's 100% windows nulldata
11:50:57<nulldata>Uhhh....how terrible
11:51:08nulldata looks at his mostly Windows setup
11:51:39<nulldata>Don't they know Linux is the one true OS?
11:56:06<kpcyrd>it's all just embedded anyway and operating systems are huge libraries with very silly calling conventions
12:02:07<nukke>nulldata: darktable and rawtherapee don't support my camera yet
12:09:50<nukke>And won't support it for another 12+ months
12:14:03<katia>nukke: Fuji?
12:14:13<nukke>Panasonic
12:14:21<katia>hmm
12:30:03<nukke>Fire already convinced me to switch to Apple
12:30:18<nukke>He said I'll get blue bubbles
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12:55:58<katia>lol
12:56:33<myself>never in my life have I noticed the color of the bubble in a text message ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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13:07:31<nukke>I do, and I also ignore irc users with green nicks
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15:49:06<fireonlive>😌
16:24:10<Dango360>google i/o 2024; cannot wait to see what google is going to release today and remove after 3 or so years
16:34:35<nulldata>Google Graveyard Preview 2024
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16:38:20<nulldata>https://twitter.com/R00tkitSMM/status/1790269915028467800
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16:46:04<nulldata>https://blogs.vmware.com/cloud-foundation/2024/05/14/vmware-desktop-hypervisor-pro-apps-now-available-for-personal-use/
16:46:38<nulldata>Workstation and Fusion are now free for personal use
16:50:43<steering>but why would you want to use them personally when experience with them is no longer in demand :)
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16:56:37<@JAA>Firefox now collecting data on searches: https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/firefox-search-update/
16:57:44<@arkiver>:(
16:58:08<@JAA>At least you can opt out via the regular telemetry config options, but yeah.
16:58:27<@arkiver>which 99.9% will forget to do or not know about
16:58:33<@JAA>Indeed
16:58:56<@JAA>Although Debian disables it by default, and probably most Debian derivatives would inherit that.
16:59:16<@JAA>No idea about other distros.
16:59:30<@JAA>Windows users don't seem to care about privacy anyway, else they wouldn't be using Windows. :-P
16:59:43<steering>>Check or uncheck the box next to Allow Firefox to send technical and interaction data to Mozilla.
16:59:51<@arkiver>hooray for debian
16:59:57<steering>yes, "technical and interaction data" definitely describes "what i'm searching for" ;)
17:00:00<Notrealname1234>Improvements
17:00:08<Notrealname1234>Let them do ir
17:00:11<Notrealname1234>it
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17:57:11<nicolas17>JAA: reading that article, I'm okay with it, and if it showed a popup asking if I want to participate or not I'd answer "yes"
17:57:25<nicolas17>but being silently on by default is definitely problematic
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18:26:56<fireonlive>there is no good in this world
18:27:01<fireonlive>everything crumbles to shit
18:32:22<nukke>Cookies are good and they crumble
18:32:41<nukke>I would argue that the crumblier the better
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18:44:16<that_lurker>https://lounge.kuhaon.fun/folder/de5ff58c3f85bbde/8q1qhc.jpg
18:50:33<fireonlive>tru
18:50:40<fireonlive>and yeah a bit sus
18:50:47<fireonlive>they want to lure you in
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19:18:01<nukke>with WSL, Docker and Podman desktop, Boxes/virt-manager, and even Virtualbox not having the USB addon be proprietary/burdened by bullshit, this feels a little pointless
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19:59:36<Notrealname1234>Can someone get the download from here https://bbs.xiawai.com/thread63795p1v1 (not the local one)
20:00:16<fireonlive>nukke: wait; virtualbox removed that weird license thing on their addon pack?
20:01:31<nukke>only the usb part
20:02:12<@JAA>Huh, when did that happen?
20:02:33<@JAA>And is it just integrated now, or do you still need to install something?
20:04:40<Notrealname1234>JAA: is there a way to remove hidden content on forums? I hate seeing "you need to respond to this thread to see this hidden content"
20:05:27<@JAA>Notrealname1234: If the operators/plugin authors are competent, no.
20:06:15<Notrealname1234>Oh ok, do you have experience with it?
20:07:22<@JAA>Not really, but I know there are dozens of forum plugins that do this.
20:07:38<Notrealname1234>Oh ok
20:15:50<steering>how often do yall need to pass a usb device through to a VM?
20:16:01<steering>i think ive had to do it a whopping once
20:19:06<Notrealname1234>Letting someone to see that hidden content without logging in
20:19:22<Notrealname1234>Not removing the plugin
20:21:40<@JAA>Yeah, I also only needed passthrough once or twice, and I don't even remember what for. The licence on it still sucked.
20:23:02<steering>ye true
20:25:52<Notrealname1234>License for passing an USB exists?
20:26:16<nulldata>For VirtualBox I think only USB1 is free, for 2 and 3 you need the Extension Pack license. And the Extension Pack license is free for personal use.
20:28:18<steering>reading the license
20:28:18<steering>(3) The Product is not designed, licensed or intended for use in the design, construction, operation or maintenance of any nuclear facility and Oracle and its licensors disclaim any express or implied warranty of fitness for such uses.
20:28:22<Notrealname1234>Bad news for the hidden content stuff: its server side
20:28:24<steering>is this the new "not designed for medical use"?
20:29:25<nicolas17>Notrealname1234: why would they do it any other way? :P
20:29:55<Notrealname1234>Client side
20:30:23<nicolas17>why would they do that?
20:30:27<nicolas17>of course it's gonna be server side
20:31:14<Notrealname1234>I need someone creating an account for this
20:31:26<Notrealname1234>It needs a access code tho
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20:37:31<@JAA>That's what I meant by 'competent', yes.
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23:46:55<nulldata>More Boeing news
23:46:59<nulldata>https://www.reuters.com/technology/space/boeing-starliners-crew-debut-delayed-again-over-spacecraft-issue-2024-05-14/
23:47:20<nulldata>https://www.cnbc.com/2024/05/14/justice-department-says-boeing-breached-2021-agreement-that-shielded-it-from-criminal-charges-over-737-max-crashes.html