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| 02:14:59 | <pabs> | https://boehs.org/node/bountysource |
| 02:15:03 | <pabs> | https://hazy.sh/blog/i-dont-care-what-the-osi-thinks |
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| 02:25:44 | <nicolas17> | pabs: some links on the bountysource article go to the WBM |
| 02:25:59 | <nicolas17> | and that's how I find out that the WBM is down |
| 02:27:46 | <fireonlive> | no one panic... |
| 02:28:44 | <fireonlive> | https://dl.fireon.live/irc/6ae9a50ec21655eb/archive.org_top_collections.png |
| 02:28:47 | <fireonlive> | nice icon |
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| 03:04:45 | <pabs> | hmm, works for me nicolas17 |
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| 03:05:36 | <nicolas17> | JAA confirmed there was an outage |
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| 03:05:38 | <nicolas17> | maybe it's fixed now |
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| 03:40:14 | <@JAA> | As usual, they had a power outage. |
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| 03:45:30 | <EvanBoehs|m> | pabs: ello |
| 03:45:40 | <pabs> | yo |
| 03:45:55 | <pabs> | EvanBoehs|m is the author of the bountysource post I linked above |
| 03:46:11 | <EvanBoehs|m> | I can't see history, I hope all good discussion! |
| 03:46:35 | <EvanBoehs|m> | yeah so my blog didn't do much interesting until quite recently, and it was interesting to see it on HN a few months ago, but there's this constant thing where it drops incredibly unaturally off the front page |
| 03:46:46 | <EvanBoehs|m> | it's either moderators or user reports that can trigger that |
| 03:47:19 | <EvanBoehs|m> | works in mysterious ways, I really wish they had a modlog |
| 03:47:44 | <nicolas17> | EvanBoehs|m: there wasn't much discussion here actually ^^ |
| 03:48:05 | <nicolas17> | other than me finding out from a link on your blog post that the wayback machine had an outage |
| 03:48:27 | <EvanBoehs|m> | oh that's rare, I don't think I've ever seen that |
| 03:50:12 | <nicolas17> | a friend in another chat made an interesting point though |
| 03:50:23 | <nicolas17> | "if we talk about open source ecosystem being a disaster, the fact that we're bothered to discuss $17k as a hit to it is extremely telling in itself" |
| 03:50:48 | <pabs> | quite |
| 03:51:29 | <EvanBoehs|m> | Yeah, it's unfortunate. I actually thought bountysource was a good idea. All this was because I was talking about OSS funding with a friend today and I was trying to find the service, and it just disappeared |
| 03:51:32 | | pabs if there are any sane alternatives to bountysource |
| 03:51:56 | <nicolas17> | like in an ideal world 17k would be a single bounty's amount not the whole unpaid pool |
| 03:52:08 | <pabs> | the fossjobs wiki has some other bounty sites btw https://github.com/fossjobs/fossjobs/wiki/Resources |
| 03:52:16 | <nicolas17> | pabs: bountysource was owned by a blockchain company |
| 03:52:28 | <pabs> | that tells you everything you need to know... |
| 03:52:35 | <nicolas17> | while the alternative sites I know of are *actually* using cryptocurrency in the service, so it's even worse |
| 03:52:39 | <EvanBoehs|m> | algora.io seems ok |
| 03:52:40 | <fireonlive> | x_x |
| 03:52:51 | <EvanBoehs|m> | nicolas17: not originally |
| 03:53:03 | <fireonlive> | that name rings a bell.. but I can't place it |
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| 03:53:14 | <nicolas17> | I mean I don't think bountysource ever implemented cryptocurrency payments even after acquisition, did they? |
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| 03:54:04 | <nicolas17> | meanwhile you have shit like gitcoin |
| 03:54:33 | <EvanBoehs|m> | Not positive, I actually only discovered after post acquisition (but before it went to hell) and my opinion always was it looked a little sketchy so i didn't investigate more |
| 03:54:54 | <nicolas17> | which being based on an Ethereum token seems to mainly fund crypto-adjacent projects anyway |
| 03:55:07 | <EvanBoehs|m> | there's an open issue in liberapay to support pay-per-work I believe |
| 03:55:33 | <EvanBoehs|m> | but liberapay right now is exclusively a donations platform, so you contractually cannot offer service in response to a donation |
| 03:55:53 | <nicolas17> | I'd like some non-binding "I'm interested in *this* project" thing on liberapay at least |
| 03:56:21 | <EvanBoehs|m> | https://github.com/liberapay/liberapay.com/issues/839 |
| 03:56:47 | <nicolas17> | I'm spread over a dozen projects, you're giving me money, what do you want me to work on |
| 03:57:11 | <EvanBoehs|m> | yeah I agree, liberapay should at the very least add a "message" field |
| 03:58:18 | <EvanBoehs|m> | I've been messing around a lot with donations, nothing has been successful overall (my revenue per 1000 visitors is around $0.85 right now, so that means it would take 100 million viewers to make a living) |
| 03:58:34 | <EvanBoehs|m> | I thought that liberapay might be a barrier as it's so esoteric, but the kofi didn't change anything |
| 03:58:56 | <fireonlive> | pabs: https://oql.avris.it/ |
| 03:59:23 | <EvanBoehs|m> | I was hoping I could pull a daring fireball and get rich as fuck off corporate sponsorships, https://daringfireball.net/feeds/sponsors/, but no company has bit |
| 03:59:39 | <EvanBoehs|m> | so idk, i might just remove the donation links |
| 03:59:45 | <pabs> | yeah, I just put that in AB fireonlive :) |
| 03:59:51 | <fireonlive> | :) |
| 04:00:10 | <fireonlive> | oh i missed that |
| 04:00:25 | <fireonlive> | copped it from a discussion a friend and I had earlier today haha |
| 04:00:28 | <EvanBoehs|m> | I support this license. Just like I supported redis |
| 04:00:45 | <nicolas17> | I'm spread over enough things and niche-enough things that that's unlikely to work :p |
| 04:00:47 | <EvanBoehs|m> | The OSI has stupid definitions of open source |
| 04:00:48 | <nicolas17> | at least now I'm trying to make things more visible |
| 04:01:01 | <fireonlive> | nicolas17, spread out? |
| 04:01:02 | <EvanBoehs|m> | and the only conceivable benefit to it is that it helps large companies |
| 04:01:04 | <fireonlive> | hm |
| 04:01:15 | <pabs> | fireonlive: its also linked by the the other post I sent aboue https://hazy.sh/blog/i-dont-care-what-the-osi-thinks |
| 04:01:41 | <fireonlive> | ah! |
| 04:01:47 | <fireonlive> | :) |
| 04:01:59 | | pabs wonders if we ever saved OSI |
| 04:02:02 | <EvanBoehs|m> | like literally none of these points make any sense https://ssplisbad.com/ |
| 04:02:05 | <nicolas17> | it was annoying me when I researched Apple stuff and talked about it in chat, and then someone *else* tweeted it and got credited by MacRumors, and then I realized if that's bothering me then why don't I tweet it first |
| 04:02:44 | <EvanBoehs|m> | Life isn't fair |
| 04:02:46 | <EvanBoehs|m> | Objectively |
| 04:03:08 | <EvanBoehs|m> | I mean again, I've learned a lot trying to write for profit over these past few months. |
| 04:03:10 | <EvanBoehs|m> | Another fun one |
| 04:03:45 | <EvanBoehs|m> | Is that I got 1m views on my XZ article. I was one of the first to write about it. And then I was outranked by the NYT and a million other sites that linked to me but did nothing original |
| 04:03:52 | <nicolas17> | the redis situation is kinda weird because the company saying "we need to fund development!" was not the original developer of redis and is not even doing most of the commits now |
| 04:04:06 | <EvanBoehs|m> | and I mean it was cool that I got linked to by the new york times but meh traffic |
| 04:04:33 | <pabs> | have you written anything for LWN EvanBoehs|m ? |
| 04:04:40 | <EvanBoehs|m> | No |
| 04:05:12 | <pabs> | https://lwn.net/op/AuthorGuide.lwn |
| 04:05:18 | <EvanBoehs|m> | Am I allowed to publish LWN articles to my own site as well? |
| 04:05:45 | <pabs> | I think after the 2 week paywall ends yeah |
| 04:05:57 | <pabs> | they don't pay a large amount though |
| 04:06:10 | <pabs> | "We will currently pay $400 for well-done articles from new authors. That figure does go up quite substantially for authors who, over time, establish a record of good writing and on-time contributions. " |
| 04:06:28 | <EvanBoehs|m> | That's a hell of a lot better than my current rates, let me tell you |
| 04:06:54 | <EvanBoehs|m> | I mean its the same thing with substack. Substack gets a lot of hate for its annoying popups. But I bet they work |
| 04:06:56 | <pabs> | " We ask that you grant LWN exclusive rights to publish your work during the LWN subscription period - currently up to two weeks after publication." |
| 04:07:26 | <EvanBoehs|m> | Being good to readers costs me money, I wrote about that here: https://boehs.org/node/llms-destroying-internet |
| 04:07:41 | <EvanBoehs|m> | pabs: Cool, I might reach out |
| 04:08:08 | <pabs> | good luck :) |
| 04:08:14 | <nicolas17> | did you see the article about the assholes in charge of Google Search nowadays? :P |
| 04:08:27 | <EvanBoehs|m> | I think so, didn't get to read it |
| 04:09:25 | <nicolas17> | https://www.wheresyoured.at/the-men-who-killed-google/ |
| 04:10:15 | <EvanBoehs|m> | Yeah, its in my todo that one |
| 04:12:02 | <EvanBoehs|m> | My next plan to try to make money was to make a commercial service and use my own advertising framework that was originally designed for corporate sponsorships to promote it. At my traffic levels, it might work. |
| 04:12:38 | <EvanBoehs|m> | I was going to make it open source, whatever it might be, but I am seriously reconsidering |
| 04:13:02 | <EvanBoehs|m> | With XZ and this and all the other abuse I've documented and still intend to document, my faith in foss is at an all time low |
| 04:13:29 | <EvanBoehs|m> | which saddens me |
| 04:14:31 | <EvanBoehs|m> | lol maybe my thing is i recreate bountysource |
| 04:22:55 | <nicolas17> | https://snowdrift.coop/ seems like a cool idea that has had way too slow development progress |
| 04:24:35 | <nicolas17> | and it looks like they put more effort in comprehensibly documenting how the model works and why it's the right way to do it |
| 04:24:37 | <nicolas17> | https://wiki.snowdrift.coop/about |
| 04:24:40 | <nicolas17> | than in actually implementing it |
| 04:26:40 | <nicolas17> | "We've been pretty quiet for the past⦠er⦠five(?) years." -- July 2021 |
| 04:26:53 | <nicolas17> | looks like you can actually send money to snowdrift itself using the platform? wow progress |
| 04:29:52 | <EvanBoehs|m> | nicolas17: That's so real |
| 04:34:00 | <nicolas17> | EvanBoehs|m: https://wiki.snowdrift.coop/about/existing-mechanisms |
| 04:34:51 | <EvanBoehs|m> | Snowdrift also has the most comprehensive documentation of competing services I've ever seen |
| 04:35:58 | <pabs> | someone should archive their stuff |
| 04:36:11 | <EvanBoehs|m> | I mean they're right that all the ways to get paid for free stuff sucks. The problem is that people aren't paying me right now, and I don't see how snowdrift would change that |
| 04:37:09 | <pabs> | you would probably be getting paid if FOSS won instead of Apple/etc :) |
| 04:37:43 | <EvanBoehs|m> | lowkey I was mostly hoping tidelift would pay me to put their ads in https://tidelift.com/ |
| 04:37:48 | <EvanBoehs|m> | fits perfectly into the article |
| 04:37:54 | <EvanBoehs|m> | unfortunately, they have not offered |
| 04:38:34 | | pabs wonders when hire.sr.ht will come online |
| 04:38:37 | <EvanBoehs|m> | oh the maintainer pitch is better https://tidelift.com/about/lifter |
| 04:39:03 | <EvanBoehs|m> | thanks, I've applied to LWN |
| 04:39:17 | <nicolas17> | is tidelift still all about language-package-manager dependencies? |
| 04:40:10 | <nicolas17> | it was funny to see one of the founders saying "this is why we made tidelift" on twitter in response to the xz situation, when I don't think xz / Lasse Collin would be eligible for tidelift |
| 04:40:24 | <EvanBoehs|m> | Oh you're right that is funny |
| 04:40:54 | <EvanBoehs|m> | Still, their model makes sense to me. Sell some... I don't even know... Some whatever service to corporations and then use that to turn around and fund FOSS |
| 04:40:58 | <EvanBoehs|m> | like it is a solid plan |
| 04:41:47 | <pabs> | there was another one that caused the funding to go deeper into dependency trees, thought that was better |
| 04:42:27 | <pabs> | but none of these FOSS funding projects even consider individual contributors, they are all about maintainers. not thinking holistically |
| 04:42:41 | <nicolas17> | yeah |
| 04:42:42 | <nicolas17> | or tools |
| 04:43:02 | <EvanBoehs|m> | oh I know which one you're talking about, the dependency tree one, let me find it |
| 04:43:55 | <nicolas17> | SaaS company paying tidelift for the 1000 node.js dependencies they use won't end up paying the developers of the FOSS text editor they also use |
| 04:44:38 | <EvanBoehs|m> | this was it https://www.stackaid.us/ |
| 04:45:31 | <EvanBoehs|m> | I mean again I truely believe the only way to have your project be both open source and profitable is to put it under a license corporations hate and sell proper ones |
| 04:46:01 | <EvanBoehs|m> | https://social.coop/@eb/112129550519631124 |
| 04:48:11 | <pabs> | I think there are projects like Blender that show an alternative to offering paid special licenses to corporations |
| 04:48:21 | <pabs> | Stackaid, that was it |
| 04:49:39 | <EvanBoehs|m> | I don't know how blender made it work. I do agree that they are somehow making it work. I just don't know how. They very much are the exception |
| 04:49:53 | <EvanBoehs|m> | And even then, if it was commercial we both know they'd make 10x more |
| 04:58:06 | <pabs> | yeah |
| 04:59:04 | <pabs> | its basically crowdfunding, get a large audience and small payments per contributor, incentivise contribution at every point. Krita and others are doing similar things |
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| 05:00:37 | <pabs> | probably they are doing more things though |
| 05:00:54 | <nicolas17> | Krita is charging for the app on proprietary app stores |
| 05:01:21 | <EvanBoehs|m> | Of the $1300 I've ever made from programming, $250 was from astro, which I am eternally grateful for. They just decided to give me money! |
| 05:01:26 | <pabs> | (and has gratis downloads for the same app on their website) |
| 05:01:30 | <nicolas17> | https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/p/krita/9n6x57zgrw96 https://apps.apple.com/us/app/krita/id1594607976 |
| 05:01:40 | <EvanBoehs|m> | * from programming and anything tech related, $250 |
| 05:02:23 | | pabs lol at the Moby Dick General Public License https://funputer.biz/license.html |
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| 05:04:09 | <nicolas17> | I think it's more expensive on the Mac App Store to make up for the pain in the ass it was to deal with Apple and mandatory sandboxing |
| 05:05:04 | <EvanBoehs|m> | I paid $600 for a company a few months ago because of apple |
| 05:06:19 | <nicolas17> | wat |
| 05:06:58 | <pabs> | you bought a company?! |
| 05:07:24 | <EvanBoehs|m> | No, I founded one |
| 05:07:45 | <EvanBoehs|m> | Not actually doing anything with it, but I was going to publish an app |
| 05:07:57 | <EvanBoehs|m> | In MA the company costs $500 |
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| 05:18:07 | <fireonlive> | ssh: connect to host penis.buttler.local port 22: Operation timed out |
| 05:18:12 | <fireonlive> | well no wonder homeassistant didn't do the things |
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| 06:29:42 | <fireonlive> | "ok, I understand that, at some point in time, somebody saw a bug on a bed and just thought 'yeah I'm going to name them bed bugs'... yeah that makes sense! ...now who the fuck named cockroaches?" |
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| 07:12:59 | <pabs> | nice punchline... |
| 07:27:39 | <fireonlive> | :) |
| 07:28:46 | <fireonlive> | https://youtube.com/@At-The-Beep |
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| 22:06:01 | <@JAA> | (From #archivebot) |
| 22:06:19 | <@JAA> | katia: It does the things I've thrown at it so far pretty well, but it does get hot and needs a fan on top. |
| 22:07:11 | <katia> | i have a few of these: https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805048523628.html |
| 22:07:36 | <katia> | they're tiny and have a fan which they do need |
| 22:07:37 | <@JAA> | Oh yeah, I was looking at those as well. |
| 22:07:44 | <katia> | but, they're realtek |
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| 22:09:43 | <@JAA> | I like that mine has a DP out. DP > HDMI any day. |
| 22:09:56 | <katia> | https://nl.pepper.com/aanbiedingen/chuwi-gemibook-xpro-141-laptop-voor-eur17965-8gb256gb-intel-n100-windows-11-voor-eur17969-309177 |
| 22:09:58 | <katia> | these look so cute |
| 22:10:17 | <@JAA> | I don't remember specifically why I decided against the Firebat though. |
| 22:10:27 | <katia> | probably the NICs? |
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| 22:12:17 | <@JAA> | Maybe, but I don't think so. |
| 22:13:52 | <katia> | https://www.amazon.nl/-/en/Firewall-Appliance-Rackmount-RJ54-Barebone/dp/B0CST1C24P |
| 22:15:48 | <katia> | even has RJ54 |
| 22:15:51 | | fireonlive frames that quote on my wall |
| 22:16:15 | <@JAA> | The one about DP? |
| 22:16:25 | <@JAA> | Preemptive <bonk.webp> |
| 22:16:27 | <fireonlive> | ye :p |
| 22:16:40 | <fireonlive> | π΅βπ« |
| 22:16:47 | | katia bonk fireonlive |
| 22:17:02 | <fireonlive> | π΅βπ« |
| 22:17:11 | <@JAA> | fireonlive bonk++ |
| 22:17:12 | <eggdrop> | [karma] 'fireonlive bonk' now has 1 karma! |
| 22:17:18 | <fireonlive> | π΅βπ« |
| 22:17:21 | <@JAA> | I think we need to track these. |
| 22:17:25 | <katia> | fireonlive bonk++ |
| 22:17:25 | <eggdrop> | [karma] 'fireonlive bonk' now has 2 karma! |
| 22:17:30 | <fireonlive> | π΅βπ« |
| 22:17:35 | <katia> | he's gonna game the numbers! |
| 22:17:47 | <fireonlive> | π |
| 22:18:06 | <fireonlive> | i need to replace my aging dell optiplex 'server' i have at home lol |
| 22:18:29 | <fireonlive> | i had a nuc but it sent it to live with a friend who has better internet so just grabbed whatever i could find for free :p |
| 22:18:48 | <kiska> | How long does OVH deliver Kimsufi? |
| 22:18:50 | <fireonlive> | whenever something 4k/high bitrate comes up on plex it just cries and dies |
| 22:18:55 | <kiska> | On average? |
| 22:19:00 | <katia> | is it your first order? |
| 22:19:05 | <kiska> | No |
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| 22:19:13 | <kiska> | https://server8.kiska.pw/uploads/f8d5cdd778c64e7a/image.png |
| 22:19:15 | <katia> | what time did it say when you ordered |
| 22:19:20 | <nyany> | kiska: 120 seconds, honestly we're talking OVH |
| 22:19:22 | <kiska> | About an hour ago? |
| 22:19:24 | <nyany> | it can take a few hours |
| 22:19:36 | <nyany> | they should honestly just change the seconds part to minutes |
| 22:19:41 | <kiska> | OVH has also duplicated the order and charged me twice... |
| 22:19:45 | <@JAA> | I still can't find anything but laptops with the Ryzen 7440U. :-| |
| 22:19:55 | <kiska> | Try aliexpress :D |
| 22:19:57 | <katia> | i want ks-1 |
| 22:20:00 | <@JAA> | kiska: I did. |
| 22:20:11 | <kiska> | Try harder? |
| 22:20:13 | <Notrealname1234> | God, will JAA archivebot the link that kiska sent |
| 22:20:21 | <kiska> | Yes |
| 22:20:32 | <nyany> | kiska: also depending on your product the set up fee is the same as the product monthly charge |
| 22:20:41 | <kiska> | Setup was free |
| 22:20:41 | <nyany> | unless you selected a 6 or 12 month commitment |
| 22:20:44 | <nyany> | on eligivle servers |
| 22:20:55 | <kiska> | I have 2 order numbers... |
| 22:21:06 | <kiska> | I think I can cancel within 14 days of it being made without penalty |
| 22:21:06 | <nyany> | Is one a prorata invoice |
| 22:21:10 | <@JAA> | I think minisforum was going to sell a device with that CPU, but then they just didn't, as they've done before. |
| 22:21:11 | <kiska> | Nope |
| 22:21:16 | <nyany> | open a ticket |
| 22:21:44 | <Notrealname1234> | He did it :troll: |
| 22:21:45 | <nyany> | out of curiosity which server did you get |
| 22:22:08 | <kiska> | Cause this says I can cancel within 14 days without penalty https://help.ovhcloud.com/csm/en-gb-billing-managing-ovh-orders?id=kb_article_view&sysparm_article=KB0042881#apply-the-right-of-withdrawal |
| 22:22:25 | <kiska> | nyany https://server8.kiska.pw/uploads/0c93570a895ca889/image.png |
| 22:22:41 | <that_lurker> | fireonlive bonk++ |
| 22:22:42 | <eggdrop> | [karma] 'fireonlive bonk' now has 3 karma! |
| 22:22:48 | <kiska> | lmao |
| 22:22:48 | <Notrealname1234> | Nows it his chance |
| 22:22:51 | <kiska> | fireonlive bonk++\ |
| 22:22:53 | <kiska> | fireonlive bonk++ |
| 22:22:53 | <eggdrop> | [karma] 'fireonlive bonk' now has 4 karma! |
| 22:22:55 | <nyany> | ah ok |
| 22:22:58 | <kiska> | :D |
| 22:22:59 | <Notrealname1234> | fireonlive bonk++ |
| 22:22:59 | <eggdrop> | [karma] 'fireonlive bonk' now has 5 karma! |
| 22:23:08 | <that_lurker> | Once that hits 920 does that mean fireonlives head is cooked :P |
| 22:23:11 | <nyany> | I have a slightly beefier version of that server |
| 22:23:19 | <@JAA> | I'm so annoyed that OVH's interface hides the disk information. You have to click around and stuff. |
| 22:23:26 | <katia> | fireonlive bonk++ |
| 22:23:26 | <eggdrop> | [karma] 'fireonlive bonk' now has 6 karma! |
| 22:23:43 | <kiska> | But yeah, from what I am reading that link says I can cancel when it gets delivered to me without any issue |
| 22:24:06 | <kiska> | fireonlive bonk++ |
| 22:24:06 | <eggdrop> | [karma] 'fireonlive bonk' now has 7 karma! |
| 22:24:09 | <kiska> | lmao :D |
| 22:24:38 | <nyany> | kiska: yeah, right of withdrawal in the eu |
| 22:24:50 | <nyany> | its 14 days, but some providers i think give more depending |
| 22:24:52 | <kiska> | Specifically in the EU or is it worldwide? |
| 22:25:02 | <kiska> | Or rather does OVH apply it worldwide? |
| 22:25:07 | <nyany> | Not sure |
| 22:25:23 | <nyany> | I mean you didn't mean to order 2 servers so I'm sure support is gonna understand that |
| 22:25:51 | <that_lurker> | https://www.futurescienceleaders.com/surrey1/2019/03/14/how-hard-do-you-have-to-hit-a-chicken-to-cook-it |
| 22:26:14 | <nyany> | JAA: Do you mean when you're reimaging and want a different raid configuration? |
| 22:26:21 | <nyany> | because JFC that system is annoying |
| 22:26:31 | <@JAA> | If you do that 14-day thing too often, don't forget to whine about it on LET: https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/194243/be-careful-with-hetzner-you-have-to-pay-now-on-servers-even-if-you-dont-make-it-through-the-month |
| 22:26:53 | <nyany> | LOL |
| 22:27:21 | <fireonlive> | π΅βπ«π΅βπ«π΅βπ« |
| 22:27:28 | <@JAA> | nyany: No, I mean looking at their server offers and not seeing immediately what disks they have. At best, you get a hint whether it's HDD or SSD through the name on the SYS servers. But else you need to go through every single one. |
| 22:27:29 | <nyany> | I didn't even realize Hetzner did that as a matter of fact until I cancelled one of my auction servers like 6 days after it was delivered and I didn't get charged |
| 22:27:35 | <nyany> | Oh right |
| 22:27:47 | <nyany> | they tell you HDD or SSD but dont really tell you until you either go to purchase it or expand for more info |
| 22:27:49 | <nyany> | it's annoying |
| 22:28:32 | <nyany> | kiska: this is the server I've got: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/WD9VLe0k/image.png |
| 22:30:15 | <Notrealname1234> | fireonlive bonk-- |
| 22:30:15 | <eggdrop> | [karma] 'fireonlive bonk' now has 6 karma! |
| 22:30:17 | <Notrealname1234> | Undid |
| 22:30:22 | <@JAA> | Also, their site has awful rendering performance and turns my CPU fan into a jet engine for a solid 20 seconds because JS reasons. |
| 22:30:35 | <nyany> | This will probably date my service a bit but |
| 22:30:38 | <nyany> | https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/S8HIpeod/image.png |
| 22:30:55 | <nyany> | That's one of the Kimsufis I have, and the one that I rely on the most for archiving |
| 22:30:55 | <@JAA> | What's even better about the disk thing is that there is a filter, but you can only choose between SATA/NVMe and filter by disk size. You can't filter HDD vs SSD. |
| 22:31:42 | <@JAA> | NVMe is going to be SSD of course, but SATA could be either. |
| 22:31:58 | <@JAA> | It's so fucking stupid... |
| 22:32:00 | <nyany> | I was looking at Hetzners storage stuff recently |
| 22:32:02 | <nyany> | https://www.hetzner.com/dedicated-rootserver/matrix-sx/ |
| 22:32:03 | <kiska> | lol :D |
| 22:32:16 | <nyany> | that SX295 nearly made me drop my... wallet |
| 22:32:25 | <@JAA> | Oh, new ones! |
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| 22:32:59 | <nyany> | 14x22TB of spinning rust glory |
| 22:33:01 | <@JAA> | Oh yeah, that's the spot. |
| 22:33:08 | <nyany> | LOL |
| 22:33:13 | <Notrealname1234> | Too much money https://c.tenor.com/XIJPpDD7Bc0AAAAC/tenor.gif |
| 22:33:33 | <kiska> | They have a AX42 available |
| 22:33:49 | <nyany> | Yeah but like |
| 22:33:56 | | fireonlive wonders if nyany owns archive.monster |
| 22:33:57 | <nyany> | 2x512GB NVMe |
| 22:34:04 | <nyany> | fireonlive: I do |
| 22:34:09 | <fireonlive> | π₯΅ |
| 22:34:28 | <Notrealname1234> | nyany: https://c.tenor.com/XIJPpDD7Bc0AAAAC/tenor.gif |
| 22:35:05 | <nyany> | Would you prefer 2x512GB NVMe or 2x1.92GB NVMe + more spinning rust than your car |
| 22:35:35 | <nyany> | sorry, 2x 7.68 TB NVMe. I misread. Jeeeeeez |
| 22:35:38 | <fireonlive> | i do need storage space... |
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| 22:35:44 | <fireonlive> | for my uh |
| 22:35:46 | <fireonlive> | documents |
| 22:36:02 | <nyany> | Well Hetzner apparently has your "document" storage needs covered |
| 22:36:08 | <fireonlive> | :3c |
| 22:36:15 | <nyany> | But I reckon a VPN may be more in your best interest |
| 22:36:16 | <nyany> | because uh |
| 22:36:25 | <nyany> | You never know who might be listening in to steal your "documents" |
| 22:36:37 | <fireonlive> | those bastards |
| 22:36:48 | | fireonlive crypt |
| 22:36:59 | <nyany> | SECURE YOUR IDENTITY AND PREVENT "DOCUMENT" THEFT WITH TODAY'S SPONSOR, SURFSHARK VPN |
| 22:37:03 | <nyany> | had to. |
| 22:37:24 | <fireonlive> | you can anytime ;) |
| 22:37:26 | <nyany> | * Note, I do not specifically endorse nor recommend Surfshark |
| 22:37:29 | <katia> | kiska, the EX44 seems a better value still |
| 22:37:40 | <nyany> | disregard katia, get SX295 |
| 22:37:47 | <katia> | ok got 3 |
| 22:37:50 | <nyany> | more money equals more room for "documents" |
| 22:37:52 | <katia> | for high availability |
| 22:37:52 | <kiska> | I don't require any of those |
| 22:38:10 | <@JAA> | Funnily, I've only seen Surfshark in mocking quotes, not in actual sponsor messages. It's always been NordVPN there. Guess I don't watch the 'right' videos. |
| 22:38:13 | <katia> | will cancel in 14 days |
| 22:38:14 | <fireonlive> | i require 300TB storage space |
| 22:38:22 | <fireonlive> | please provide |
| 22:38:24 | <nyany> | fireonlive: SX295 |
| 22:38:37 | <nyany> | like literally |
| 22:38:41 | <nyany> | this server is the answer to the universe |
| 22:38:43 | <nyany> | life |
| 22:38:44 | <nyany> | everything |
| 22:38:54 | <katia> | why is it so expense then? |
| 22:38:57 | <@JAA> | That isn't the AX42? |
| 22:39:01 | <fireonlive> | boyfriend? SX295 |
| 22:39:04 | <nyany> | shut up JAA lol |
| 22:39:10 | <@JAA> | :-) |
| 22:39:16 | <fireonlive> | life savings? SX295 |
| 22:39:19 | <fireonlive> | housing? SX295 |
| 22:39:23 | <nyany> | yeah |
| 22:39:28 | <fireonlive> | :3 |
| 22:39:32 | <katia> | does not have a gpu |
| 22:39:34 | <nyany> | Like literally the server is neither a problem or a solution |
| 22:39:37 | <katia> | cannot do AI |
| 22:39:52 | <nyany> | no but you could literally store so many documents on that bad boy |
| 22:40:05 | <nyany> | seriously y u no by |
| 22:40:11 | <fireonlive> | you'll never have to leave your goon chamber |
| 22:40:18 | <fireonlive> | i mean your legal document review desk |
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| 22:42:14 | <@JAA> | Looks like these new offers are the cheapest per TB pretty much anywhere currently. |
| 22:42:19 | <@JAA> | Cheaper than auction servers, even. |
| 22:43:04 | <@JAA> | SX135 specifically |
| 22:43:29 | <@JAA> | β¬1.16/TB/mo |
| 22:43:59 | <@JAA> | (+ VAT if applicable) |
| 22:44:46 | <katia> | can we share one |
| 22:45:32 | <nyany> | https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/mJCGCMdG/image.png |
| 22:45:49 | <nyany> | compared to this the sx295 runs circles around it |
| 22:46:08 | <kiska> | Now I wait for OVH support to answer me about my duplicate order :( |
| 22:46:46 | <katia> | they're gonna take like a week or 8 kiska |
| 22:47:06 | <@JAA> | You get what you pay for in terms of support, yeah. |
| 22:47:30 | <kiska> | Yay :D |
| 22:47:38 | <nyany> | they didn't take long to tell me to go pound sand after I complained that they were charging me more for a server than they offer on their website |
| 22:47:50 | <@JAA> | Heh |
| 22:48:25 | <nyany> | and yes, katia - That server (aka fourone or the "problem child") is scheduled for cancellation at the end of this month |
| 22:48:32 | <katia> | \o/ |
| 22:48:34 | <katia> | finally |
| 22:48:38 | <nyany> | i've never had so many issues with a single server before |
| 22:48:41 | <@JAA> | Replacing it with an SX295? |
| 22:48:42 | <katia> | death2thatserveur |
| 22:48:47 | <katia> | write off and SX295 |
| 22:49:02 | <katia> | right now |
| 22:49:13 | <nyany> | one of the disks died or was dying, bad stick of ram |
| 22:49:15 | <nyany> | shall I go on |
| 22:49:25 | <@JAA> | Sounds fun |
| 22:49:41 | <katia> | SX295 without the ipv4 so you save 1.70β¬! |
| 22:49:47 | <fireonlive> | 2 archiveteamers one VPS |
| 22:49:51 | <nyany> | hot |
| 22:49:54 | <fireonlive> | :3 |
| 22:49:59 | <fireonlive> | ππ |
| 22:50:00 | <@JAA> | Nice |
| 22:50:07 | <@JAA> | π© |
| 22:50:34 | <katia> | fireonlive bonk++ |
| 22:50:35 | <eggdrop> | [karma] 'fireonlive bonk' now has 7 karma! |
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| 22:50:55 | <fireonlive> | π΅βπ« |
| 22:53:58 | <kiska> | If OVH doesn't cancel the duplicate order I have a use for it anyway... I'll migrate the grafana machine over |
| 22:54:07 | <kiska> | I am close to running out of storage |
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| 23:32:26 | <fireonlive> | +rss- Show HN: gpudeploy.com β "Airbnb" for GPUs: Hi HN,YC w24 company here. We just pivoted from drone delivery to build gpudeploy.com, a website that routes on-demand traffic for GPU instances to idle compute resources.The experience is similar to lambda labs, which weβve really enjoyed for training our robotics models, but their GPUs are |
| 23:32:26 | <fireonlive> | never available for on-demand. We are also trying to make it more [...] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40260259 |
| 23:32:33 | <fireonlive> | >"Airbnb" for GPUs |
| 23:32:35 | <fireonlive> | > |
| 23:32:37 | <fireonlive> | >>>>>>> |
| 23:32:43 | <fireonlive> | huh |
| 23:34:36 | <@JAA> | So BOINC with a GPU payload? |
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| 23:37:59 | <nyany> | mmmm boinc payloads |
| 23:38:37 | <@JAA> | The pivot from drone delivery is fun. |
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