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| 00:04:10 | <kpcyrd> | maybe bit of a silly question: can I somehow measure the cpu load of a vps in a way that can be converted to (estimated) kwh if I know the specific cpu? |
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| 00:19:43 | <nukke> | The Adwaita Icon Theme no longer follows the FDO spec, breaking e.g. KDE apps: https://cullmann.io/posts/kate-and-icons/ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40230558 |
| 00:20:03 | <nukke> | jfc why is gnome such a terrible project |
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| 01:40:47 | <@JAA> | That supercomputer that's up for auction has hit $100k a couple hours ago. |
| 01:41:14 | <@JAA> | Still under $1 per core!!1! |
| 01:42:23 | <@JAA> | And the reserve has been met. |
| 01:42:38 | <@JAA> | Must've been somewhere between $50k and $100k. |
| 01:44:22 | <steering> | seems expensive for a computer that's being sold because it's wetting itself |
| 01:45:34 | <steering> | (especially once you consider that moving it will probably cost a similar amount? lol) |
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| 01:56:43 | <fireonlive> | are there such things as computer diapers |
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| 02:00:08 | <FireFly> | steering: the storing data in symlink destinations idly reminded me of https://www.linusakesson.net/programming/symlinks/index.php |
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| 02:01:49 | <nicolas17> | oh god why |
| 02:35:02 | <fireonlive> | fireonlive isn't here right now, leave your derogatory remarks after the beep |
| 02:35:05 | <fireonlive> | beep |
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| 02:44:58 | <fireonlive> | https://dl.fireon.live/irc/10d1e5600d76aca6/ye.png |
| 02:45:00 | <fireonlive> | bro... |
| 02:45:05 | <steering> | FireFly: heckin heck |
| 02:45:08 | <fireonlive> | huh |
| 02:49:27 | <Terbium> | wat |
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| 03:08:48 | <nicolas17> | those 16GB of .json.zst were turned into 3.2GB of git pack \o/ |
| 03:14:15 | <fireonlive> | nice |
| 03:56:14 | <nicolas17> | https://www.seattletimes.com/business/whistleblower-josh-dean-of-boeing-supplier-spirit-aerosystems-has-died/ |
| 03:56:27 | <nicolas17> | "if I had a nickel for every time a former Boeing employee died in mysterious circumstances after testifying against the company, I'd have two nickels... which isn't a lot, but it's weird^W EXTREMELY SUSPICIOUS that it happened twice" |
| 03:58:34 | <fireonlive> | wait what |
| 04:02:04 | <fireonlive> | how to become boeing whistleblower |
| 04:02:06 | <fireonlive> | gogole |
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| 04:33:13 | <wickerz> | Stories like that are mindblowing. I mean, it’s a bit too much of a coincidence.. |
| 04:33:32 | <wickerz> | too bad everyone will have forgotten about it in a few days :( |
| 04:36:39 | <nicolas17> | "It's not guaranteed that they killed him; he *could* have just gotten an infection. On the other hand, if they didn't want people assuming they did it every time someone who's in the middle of exposing their crimes happens to drop dead, they shouldn't have killed that first guy." |
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| 08:29:22 | <systwi_> | Hey fellow kids, use 'dat Yubikey: https://vimeo.com/732255789/e414813337 |
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| 14:08:13 | <kpcyrd> | I announced my source code indexing project on the microblogs: |
| 14:08:15 | <kpcyrd> | https://twitter.com/kpcyrd/status/1786025246270599641 |
| 14:08:17 | <kpcyrd> | https://chaos.social/@kpcyrd/112371734992410322 |
| 14:11:42 | <joepie91|m> | kpcyrd: hmm, do you have more context? this looks kind of useful but I am not sure I fully understand what it does or is meant to do |
| 14:13:30 | <kpcyrd> | joepie91|m: tl;dr would be "it documents the source code that we put into our computers" |
| 14:15:17 | <katia> | but hao |
| 14:16:41 | <kpcyrd> | joepie91|m: it doesn't really do anything on it's own, but it highlights how we don't need to "secure each distro" and instead there's a common understanding of "the opensource ecosystem" (that nobody feels responsible for) |
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| 14:22:22 | <FireFly> | hm interesting |
| 14:24:24 | <FireFly> | kpcyrd: might be worth considering using the software heritage SWHIDs for identifying artifacts/subtrees (there's some pros and cons there, but just a pointer since it's already an established identifier) |
| 14:25:42 | <FireFly> | so do you scan each of these distros' repositories to extract the build inputs, fetch each input and hash the fetched data + its content? if I'm following this |
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| 14:27:02 | <joepie91|m> | kpcyrd: I'm a bit overloaded atm (NixOS governance stuff) but would like to talk more about this at some later point :) it sounds relevant to me |
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| 14:29:17 | <FireFly> | kpcyrd: when you have aliased sha256 hashes, it's not super clear to me what that means here. archive files with different hashes but extracting to trees that match exactly? |
| 14:35:07 | <kpcyrd> | FireFly: yes that's what I do, you can look at the code here: https://github.com/kpcyrd/what-the-src/tree/main/src/sync |
| 14:36:01 | <kpcyrd> | about "alias being unclear" there's a github issue, it was brought up before 🙈 https://github.com/kpcyrd/what-the-src/issues/7 |
| 14:36:10 | <kpcyrd> | I couldn't come up with anything better yet |
| 14:36:51 | <kpcyrd> | "the canonical page" is considered sha256(tar), and sha256(gzip(tar)) is considered "an alternative representation of the same source code" |
| 14:37:27 | <kpcyrd> | sha512(tar) and sha512(xz(tar)) also both point to sha256(tar) |
| 14:37:53 | <kpcyrd> | this approach is also how I'm planning to deal with .nar eventually |
| 14:38:32 | <FireFly> | I mean just a bit more verbosity in the rendered pages would go a long way I think |
| 14:38:55 | <FireFly> | e.g. something like (archive with same content) or so in the alias box |
| 14:39:49 | <FireFly> | even better if the difference could be spelled out (i.e. gzip vs not in your example) but that's more of a cherry-on-top |
| 14:42:13 | <FireFly> | kpcyrd: oh I was about to crosspost it to #bootstrappable but you're already there heh |
| 14:42:28 | <kpcyrd> | feel free to post :) |
| 14:42:30 | <FireFly> | I'll leave you to post it whenever you fancy then, but seems relevant/adjacent enough |
| 14:42:41 | <FireFly> | mm fair |
| 14:44:32 | <kpcyrd> | I currently miss some of the data (I know it's an alias but I don't know why) - I speedran the entire project after the Jia Tan thing and had to cut some corners |
| 14:49:28 | <FireFly> | yeah makes sense ^^ |
| 14:49:53 | <FireFly> | just offering some feedback, but it looks like an interesting start to me |
| 14:52:16 | <kpcyrd> | one thing I definitely want to do is track Cargo.lock files, and I really want the Nix data |
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| 16:42:17 | <that_lurker> | https://discourse.nixos.org/t/exciting-partnership-announcement-framework-community-nixos-communities-join-forces/44640 |
| 16:47:18 | <nukke> | oh damn |
| 16:48:28 | <nukke> | about 3/4ths of the people at nixcon usa had a framework laptop. it was crazy |
| 16:58:24 | <katia> | framework represent o/ |
| 16:58:34 | <katia> | that_lurker, Oops! That page doesn’t exist or is private. |
| 16:59:08 | <that_lurker> | Works for me still |
| 16:59:09 | <nukke> | https://web.archive.org/web/20240502094406/https://discourse.nixos.org/t/exciting-partnership-announcement-framework-community-nixos-communities-join-forces/44640 |
| 16:59:25 | <@JAA> | Works fine here, too. |
| 16:59:52 | <nukke> | katia got shadowbanned |
| 17:00:02 | <nukke> | :O turns out katia was Eelco all along |
| 17:00:04 | <katia> | lol |
| 17:00:19 | <katia> | oh, the 0 was on a newline |
| 17:00:26 | <katia> | .../44640 |
| 17:00:52 | | katia blames the heat too |
| 17:01:06 | <that_lurker> | the hardships of maybe using putty-url :P |
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| 17:02:24 | <katia> | there's these plugins that run a little local http server url shortener and put the shortened link under the links |
| 17:02:34 | <katia> | https://weechat.org/scripts/source/urlserver.py.html/ |
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| 17:03:06 | <nukke> | I used to use that plugin until I switched to glowing-bear |
| 17:03:24 | <katia> | i have that all setup too but i like my terminal |
| 17:03:29 | <katia> | uwu |
| 17:05:10 | <that_lurker> | How does glowing-bear handle multiple servers? For example in the case of ZNC using /znc JumpNetwork |
| 17:06:46 | <nukke> | how do you mean? it's just a frontend for weechat, so however weechat handles it |
| 17:06:59 | <katia> | you can have glowing bear setup for teh entire weechat or just 1 network |
| 17:07:08 | <katia> | it's called a relay |
| 17:07:22 | <katia> | https://weechat.org/files/doc/weechat/stable/weechat_relay_protocol.en.html |
| 17:07:30 | <that_lurker> | ohh |
| 17:07:46 | <katia> | i wish weechat could also connect to a weechat relay |
| 17:07:55 | <katia> | so you could have weechat <- weechat kind of like quassel |
| 17:08:35 | <nukke> | on android I use weechat-android which also depends on the relay protocol |
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| 17:09:27 | <that_lurker> | I've been liking my thelounge instance, but ZNC and weechat are whispering in the back of my mind for their return :P |
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| 17:11:01 | <FireFly> | I've been meaning to try out soju as a more modern bouncer |
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| 17:11:15 | <katia> | me too |
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| 17:59:41 | | fireonlive uwu |
| 18:07:16 | <steering> | Thu@0229.22 < systwi_> Hey fellow kids, use 'dat Yubikey: https://vimeo.com/732255789/e414813337 |
| 18:07:20 | <steering> | what did i just listen too |
| 18:07:22 | <steering> | -o |
| 18:09:13 | <systwi> | The kind of music all the kids are into these days, you know, "gangsta rap," but the kind that teaches good morals and Internet safety. |
| 18:09:38 | <systwi> | ;-) |
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| 19:06:47 | <that_lurker> | -+rss- Spotify moves lyrics behind a paywall: https://techcrunch.com/2024/05/02/spotify-is-quietly-moves-lyrics-behind-a-paywall/ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40238269 |
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