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00:13:02<steering>i think it's funnier that their payroll is 400% of their revenue
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00:51:20<fireonlive>'someone who is good at the economy please help me budget this. my family is dying'
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01:27:52<@OrIdow6>You're all missing the best part - "previously, we were getting CDN and firewall services for free, due to cloudflare forgetting they had given us a complimentary enterprise contract"
01:29:20<imer>do.. you not get it for free anyways at that low traffic volumes?
01:31:36<imer>I've certainly had some US acquaintances say it's "unlivable" in the big cities if you don't make >100k, so might be that?
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01:58:37<fireonlive>>no artificial flavours or synthetic colours¹
01:58:55<fireonlive>>¹ as defined in canadian regulations
01:58:58<fireonlive>....sus
02:09:45<DigitalDragons>that fastly bill is massive lol
02:09:52<DigitalDragons>even google cloud is like 1/2 that price
02:12:03<fireonlive>-+rss- OpenAI postmortem – Unexpected responses from ChatGPT: https://status.openai.com/incidents/ssg8fh7sfyz3 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39462087
02:58:31<steering>Wed@1831.36> < imer> I've certainly had some US acquaintances say it's "unlivable" in the big cities if you don't make >100k, so might be that?
02:58:42<steering>sure, if they're living in San Francisco or similar it makes sense
02:59:16<nicolas17>if you have a budget like cohost's, maybe don't hire people in san francisco
02:59:21<steering>^
02:59:49<steering>I'm from Austin which is pretty expensive all things considered, and I could probably live comfortably around $45-50k if I was single
03:00:23<steering>it's literally just like the top 10 most expensive cities (or a family) that you'd need $90k for
03:14:32<thuban>https://github.com/Speykious/cve-rs
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03:29:07<fireonlive>dat ascii art
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06:38:45<fireonlive>windows bad
06:38:55<fireonlive>thanks for coming to my ted talk
06:39:57@JAA applauds enthusiastically.
06:40:57<fireonlive>:D
07:04:56<@arkiver>:P
07:16:22<Barto>standing ovation!
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08:47:03<imer>nicolas17: yes. that might be a good starting point :D
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09:40:27<@OrIdow6>https://www.reuters.com/technology/reddit-ai-content-licensing-deal-with-google-sources-say-2024-02-22/
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12:34:12<Exorcism>https://twitter.com/zetalyrae/status/1760398233774239836?t=boUxRIANeD9JeDckTBEbnA&s=19
12:34:12<eggdrop>nitter: https://farside.link/nitter/zetalyrae/status/1760398233774239836
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15:58:53<nukke>https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3252737/chinese-teams-memory-leap-shrinks-data-centre-storage-capacity-dvd-sized-disk
15:59:03<nukke>>A research team in China says it has developed a technology that allows a massive data set – equal to about 5.8 billion indexed web pages – to be stored in a device the size of a desktop computer. For perspective, if the data was stored using 1-terabyte hard drives, the devices would cover an area about the size of an average playground.
15:59:35<nukke>that's some serious american-tier measurements. "the disc is the size of half a chopstick"
16:00:12<nicolas17>is it the size of a normal CD?
16:00:20<nukke>I wish some of these researchers sent the IA some of these new things for testing purposes :(
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16:33:45<fireonlive>me too :3
16:37:25<nukke>https://apnews.com/article/cellular-att-verizon-tmobile-outage-02d8dfd93019e79e5e2edbeed08ee450
16:37:30<nukke>mega oof
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17:22:43<@JAA>Cool, another holographic storage medium that isn't going to make it to the market!
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18:33:10<steering>what is the size of an average playground?
18:33:58<steering>and also, why do they start by comparing volume and then proceed to compare area?
18:34:37<steering>and also, really? that's like MBs per "web page"
18:38:08<@JAA>So an average page on the modern web then. :-P
18:39:20<@JAA>The entire thing is all over the place.
18:39:37<@JAA>It also claims that 'today's most advanced hard disk drives' are 8 TB...
18:39:42<steering>> In data storage units, 1,024 gigabytes equal 1 terabyte, and 1,024 terabytes form 1 petabit
18:39:52<@JAA>lol
18:39:57<steering>yes. 1024 terabytes form 1 petabit, and 1024 petabytes make up 1 exabit
18:40:18<steering>ah I was wondering what size they were using for their comparison
18:40:49<@JAA>Well, they claim their disks are 1.6 petabit. Maybe they meant petabytes. But I'm not aware of a 64 TB HDD.
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18:41:01<steering>ye I just got that far
18:42:20<steering>sounds like you also have to flip the disk over for that capacity which is fun :p
18:43:06<nicolas17>wat
18:43:32<steering>... and I just realized that almost no one younger than me understands flipping a cassette tape
18:43:34<nicolas17>DVD readers used dual lasers to read both sides without flipping over
18:43:55<steering>nicolas17: DVDs are dual layer, not dual side, no?
18:44:00<nicolas17>they can be either or both
18:44:23<@JAA>You can certainly put lasers on both sides. It's just going to make everything bulkier and more expensive.
18:44:31<steering>I don't think I've ever encountered a dual-sided DVD
18:45:00<steering>what JAA said, but also since they have "hundreds" of layers I'd say expensive^2
18:45:17<@JAA>Double-sided dual-layer DVD-18, neat.
18:45:50<fireonlive>they understand the record player but not the casette tape 😢
18:45:57<@JAA>Apparently there are some double-sided DVDs with dual layer on one side and single layer on the other. That's wild.
18:46:11<balrog>I have encountered double-sided, usually on movies, and I don't think I've seen any double-sided players (but I'm sure that certain high end ones exist)
18:46:20<balrog>usually you have to flip the disc over
18:46:29<nicolas17>oh :|
18:46:45<fireonlive>ah yes, the two sided movie :)
18:46:55<balrog>anyway my question is, will they be able to mass produce this thing
18:47:01<steering>no :p
18:47:08<balrog>you always see new proofs of concept, but nothing seems to reach production ever
18:47:26<balrog>so far the biggest commercially available optical media is BDXL, at 100GB
18:47:29<balrog>that I know of
18:47:35<@JAA>Holographic storage is like nuclear fusion.
18:47:52<@JAA>This isn't quite holographic storage I suppose, but close enough.
18:48:18<@JAA>I'd be very surprised if this ever makes it onto the market.
18:48:47<balrog>at $10 per 100GB disc, you're looking at $100/TB. You're better off with hard drives price-wise. (Maybe newer versions of LTO tape would be cheaper, but the drives are extremely expensive)
18:50:44<nicolas17>balrog: I was surprised when I found that you're better off with hard drives than with DVD-R
18:50:46<@JAA>LTO cartridges are much cheaper than HDDs, yeah. But anything older than a couple generations back will be pain due to the small cartridges.
18:51:42<nicolas17>I expected DVD-Rs to be slow, and a pain to manage the hundreds you would need to achieve hard disk capacity... not to also be *more expensive*
18:51:47<@JAA>And yeah, not just the drives themselves, they're also all either SAS or FC, so you need hardware to deal with that, too.
18:52:23<@JAA>SAS is reasonably common in servers I guess, but still need to own one. FC is a pain from what I've read.
18:53:21fireonlive tapes JAA
18:54:47<steering>pcie sas controllers are cheap enough.
18:56:45<audrooku|m>New somewhat promising but also dubious miracle data storage #534
18:57:56<audrooku|m>I could live with... flipping my petabyte disc if it let me afford petabytes, and yeah sas controllers are cheap, i got a dell one I reflashed to IT mode for $25
19:11:48<fireonlive>https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/p/super-meat-boy-forever
19:12:00<fireonlive>today's free thing
19:39:29<fireonlive>-+rss- Bluesky announces data federation for self hosters: https://bsky.social/about/blog/02-22-2024-open-social-web https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39471116
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21:07:33<fireonlive>+rss- Announcing the Directed Share Program https://old.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/1axhbye/announcing_the_directed_share_program/
21:07:38<fireonlive>>we’re inviting all eligible redditors to participate in Reddit’s IPO.
21:09:31<@JAA>!8ball Are they desperate?
21:09:31<eggdrop>🎱: JAA, ask again later
21:11:10<that_lurker>!8ball Should I buy some sweet reddit shares
21:11:11<eggdrop>🎱: that_lurker, outlook good
21:11:30<nukke> to the moon 🚀
21:11:39<fireonlive>🚀
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22:36:21<fireonlive>https://twitter.com/growing_daniel/status/1760750195980292189
22:36:21<eggdrop>nitter: https://farside.link/nitter/growing_daniel/status/1760750195980292189
22:36:27<fireonlive>oh no rip ;p
22:38:05<pabs>wut
22:38:49<fireonlive>(it's making the rounds but isn't real)
22:39:25<@JAA>https://xkcd.com/1361/
22:39:45<fireonlive>xP
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22:41:30<pabs>hmm, its not April 1 yet :(
22:42:00<fireonlive>:(
22:44:50<joepie91|m>https://twitter.com/patneedham_/status/1760796698253623485
22:44:50<eggdrop>nitter: https://farside.link/nitter/patneedham_/status/1760796698253623485
22:45:31<fireonlive>lmao
22:46:44<pabs>hmm, no working instances on that one yet
22:47:16<fireonlive>https://nitter.esmailelbob.xyz/patneedham_/status/1760796698253623485
22:47:34<pabs>thx. eventually got mint.lgbt :)
22:47:56<pabs>oh, and now it is rate limited too
22:48:04<fireonlive>oof
22:49:14<@JAA>Yeah, it's been taking a couple refreshes sometimes since two days ago or so.
22:49:29<fireonlive>i'll let JAA tell me when to call it dead :p
22:49:43<fireonlive>passing on responsibility: 💯
22:50:13<@JAA>:-)
22:50:56<@JAA>The last tokens will expire on the 24th I believe since they removed the endpoint on 2024-01-25 and they're valid for 30 days.
22:51:21<@JAA>!remindme 48h Is Nitter dead yet?
22:51:21<eggdrop>[remind] ok, i'll remind you at 2024-02-24T22:51:21Z
22:51:29<fireonlive>:3
22:51:45<nicolas17>oh that's handy
22:51:56<fireonlive>!remind
22:51:57<eggdrop>[remind] !remind <nick> "<time>" <message> (time is a format parseable by the TCL command 'clock scan' - https://www.tcl.tk/man/tcl8.6/TclCmd/clock.html)
22:52:09<fireonlive>(remindme just makes <nick> you)
22:53:53<nicolas17>hmmm can I say "remind me next tuesday" and crazy things like that
22:57:23<thuban>iirc _yes_, tcl's freeform scan is wild
22:57:26<steering>!remindme "next tuesday" nothing
22:57:27<eggdrop>[remind] ok, i'll remind you at 2024-03-05T00:00:00Z
22:57:33<steering>https://www.tcl.tk/man/tcl8.6/TclCmd/clock.html#M80
22:57:50<fireonlive>tcl both makes me nostalgic and also cry
22:58:03<nicolas17>!remindme "next tuesday 10am pst" "Apple betas coming soon"
22:58:04<eggdrop>[remind] ok, i'll remind you at 2024-03-05T18:00:00Z
22:58:17<fireonlive>it skipped a tuesday
22:58:25<fireonlive>27th is technically the next?
22:58:27<nicolas17>oh
22:58:32<nicolas17>!remindme "this tuesday 10am pst" "Apple betas coming soon"
22:58:32<eggdrop>[remind] unable to parse time: unable to convert date-time string "this tuesday 10am pst": syntax error (characters 0-3)
22:58:37<nicolas17>!remindme "tuesday 10am pst" "Apple betas coming soon"
22:58:38<eggdrop>[remind] ok, i'll remind you at 2024-02-27T18:00:00Z
22:58:47<fireonlive>!reminders
22:58:49<steering>hm, it documents "this" to work
22:58:52<steering>what the hack
22:59:08<fireonlive>!cancelreminder 1708642683
22:59:09<eggdrop>Removed reminder with id 1708642683
22:59:09<thuban>"The reason for the deprecation is that there are too many ambiguities. (Does the string '2000' represent a year, a time of day, or a quantity?) No set of rules for interpreting free-form dates and times has been found to give unsurprising results in all cases."
22:59:22<fireonlive>([remind] 1708642683: for nicolas17 at 2024-03-05T18:00:00Z: {Apple betas coming soon})
22:59:30<nicolas17>thuban: Siri is pretty smart about it
22:59:36<@JAA>fireonlive: Is that actually an ID? It smells awfully like a timestamp.
22:59:42<fireonlive>its a timestamp yeah
22:59:43<fireonlive>haha
23:00:07<nicolas17>if it's 1am and you ask Siri "remind me tomorrow at 9am" it asks you to confirm what you mean by "tomorrow"
23:00:11<@JAA>!remindme 1m test
23:00:11<eggdrop>[remind] ok, i'll remind you at 2024-02-22T23:01:11Z
23:00:11<@JAA>!remindme 1m test
23:00:12<eggdrop>[remind] ok, i'll remind you at 2024-02-22T23:01:11Z
23:00:14<@JAA>!reminders
23:00:17<thuban>can anybody remove other people's reminders?
23:00:25<@JAA>Heh
23:00:31<nicolas17>duplicate ID? :D
23:00:31<fireonlive>!reminders
23:00:41<fireonlive>overwritten lol
23:00:54<fireonlive>very nice
23:01:09<steering>but what if i remindme at the same time
23:01:11<eggdrop>[remind] JAA: test
23:01:28<@JAA>Looks like the seconds are wrong in !reminders output; it said :00 there.
23:01:48<fireonlive>\!cancelreminder is limited to me atm
23:01:58<@JAA>But yeah, looks like there can only be one reminder per second (per channel?).
23:02:19<@JAA>As in, one !remind[me] comment issued, the timestamp is that, not when the reminder triggers.
23:02:24<@JAA>command*
23:02:43<fireonlive>!reminders
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23:03:25<fireonlive>hm ID used globally
23:04:40<fireonlive>should adjust that
23:05:42<steering>vice had "a bit over 1,000" employees in november before another round of layoffs, now they're laying off "several hundred"...
23:06:04<@JAA>Note re Nitter links: posting them anywhere with The Lounge clients will likely get the instance immediately rate-limited due to stupid link prefetching.
23:07:15<fireonlive>oh i changed the !reminders to use actual seconds instead of just a static :00
23:08:03<fireonlive>nicolas17: see also "eggdrop(:|,)? help" or ",help"
23:08:22<nicolas17>JAA: I was thinking of making task assignment on my samsung grab thing depend on user action or at least a XHR request, to prevent lounge clients from reserving a dozen files to download
23:10:11<steering>ew. looks like thelounge grabs if two clients on the same instance are
23:10:17<@JAA>nicolas17: Just block The Lounge's UA.
23:10:25<steering>ew. looks like thelounge grabs multiple times if multiple clients on the same instance are in the channel.
23:11:06<fireonlive>the lounge loves you :3
23:11:25<steering> 'HTTP_USER_AGENT' => 'Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; The Lounge IRC Client; +https://github.com/thelounge/thelounge) facebookexternalhit/1.1 Twitterbot/1.0',
23:11:28<steering>anyway yeah there ya go
23:12:16<fireonlive>no one click on this for like 5 seconds: https://dl.fireon.live/irc/f1feabbfffbb07de/thelounge.png
23:12:24<fireonlive>22 hits
23:12:33<@JAA>Yup, there's a reason why it's blocked on transfer.
23:12:34<steering>lmao
23:12:34<fireonlive>35 now
23:12:38<fireonlive>lol
23:13:08<@JAA>It was causing problems already a couple years ago by busting the BCDN caching. Would only be worse now.
23:13:14<steering>it would be nice if there was some standardized "i'm just fetching embed info, block me if you want" header
23:13:27<fireonlive>but i like my embeds uwu
23:13:49steering starts sending Precedence: bulk in his http requests
23:13:55<fireonlive>my client is named 'TheLounging' now :3
23:14:08<fireonlive>*wrath of JAA*
23:17:18<nicolas17>did someone say raging fire https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-68374811
23:17:40fireonlive waves
23:17:51<fireonlive>🏳️‍🌈
23:17:56<@JAA>Oh shit
23:20:06<@JAA>> aluminium plates with an foam insulator
23:20:09<@JAA>Not this again...
23:31:58<fireonlive>oof
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