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01:19:39<project10>https://www.tomshardware.com/networking/three-million-malware-infected-smart-toothbrushes-used-in-swiss-ddos-attacks-botnet-causes-millions-of-euros-in-damages
01:20:53<katia>https://cyberplace.social/@GossiTheDog/111886558855943676
01:21:25<project10>darn :(
01:21:56<project10>one day it'll be true :D
01:24:22<katia>maybe ;.;
01:28:30<@JAA>Under 'how you can protect yourself' in the original German article, I'm sorely missing one thing:
01:28:37<@JAA>STOP BUYING STUPID IOT DEVICES.
01:29:00<katia>buy smart iot devices
01:29:08@JAA slaps katia around a bit with a large trout
01:29:28<katia>stupid: bluetooth toothbrush. smart: wifi toothbrush
01:29:40<katia>smartest: wifi 7 toothbrush
01:30:14<katia>your toothbrush needs to be plugged in for 30 minutes because uhh
01:30:32<@JAA>OptImiSiNG yOuR bRuSHinG eXpErIeNcE
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01:35:42<nukke>your toaster doesn't support WPA3? lmao
01:37:03<fireonlive>speaking of smart devices... anyone ever hear of the 'autoblow ai ultra' lmao
01:37:49<fireonlive>nsfw: https://autoblow.com/product/autoblow-ai-ultra/
01:38:06<fireonlive>oh this is new, the 'vacuglide': https://autoblow.com/product/vacuglide/ but holy fuck the price
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01:39:27<fireonlive>the cartoons at the bottom are something
01:40:28<fireonlive>https://dl.fireon.live/irc/ed2c79a0f8f69abf/image.png
01:40:29<fireonlive>bro
01:40:41<fireonlive>...nsfw maybe?
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01:43:32<@JAA>fireonlive: Based on what I'm reading, it sucks!
01:44:44<fireonlive>x3
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01:48:00<nicolas17>fireonlive: search "banana cleaner" on amazon
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01:51:29<fireonlive>nicolas17: amazing
01:51:55<fireonlive>https://www.amazon.ca/limpiador-autom%C3%A1tico-pl%C3%A1tanos-Special-Reminder/dp/B0BVKMNSD1
01:52:00<fireonlive>" limpiador automático de plátanos Special Reminder: This Link is Sold by Many People "
01:52:01<fireonlive>o_O
01:53:54<project10>"Pour nettoyer bananes 😂"
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02:20:43<@JAA>I'm poking that spam email attachment a bit more. Among the links is a 471-page PDF 'manifesto'.
02:23:50<@JAA>> WE ARE LOOKING FOR RARE CORRECTABLE SUBJECTS. WE DO NOT NEED HERDS IN THE MANAGEMENT-A LOT OF OBJECTS, AS DO DRUGGED OBJECTS CAUGHT IN A HUNTING AMBUSH OF WOLVES. THE MANAGEMENT SHOULD HAVE SELECTED, SMALL (in proportion to the mass-herd), SUFFICIENTLY ORGANIZED, CORRECTABLE SUBJECTS ACCORDING TO THE PHYSICAL LAWS OF EXISTENCE.
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02:56:45<nukke>I have a PhD in scrums and a masters in agile
03:20:51<fireonlive>https://twitter.com/vxunderground/status/1754703616743559563 < neat
03:20:51<eggdrop>nitter: https://farside.link/nitter/vxunderground/status/1754703616743559563
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04:34:28<fireonlive>TIL https://github.com/M2Team/NanaZip
04:34:32<fireonlive>anyone here hear of it?
04:34:41<fireonlive>'modern 7z fork'
04:34:59<fireonlive>supports zst, brotli, etc
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04:53:53<project10>neat
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05:21:41<ymgve>fireonlive: I smell parallel construction
05:22:19<fireonlive>:?
05:23:00<ymgve>"Parallel construction is a law enforcement process of building a parallel, or separate, evidentiary basis for a criminal investigation in order to conceal how an investigation actually began."
05:23:38<fireonlive>ohh right the fingerprints
05:23:51<fireonlive>yeah it does seem kinda suspicious hm?
05:23:59<ymgve>I suspect they used some NSA/whatever the Finnish equivalent is, but don't want to reveal that, so they go "oh we totally got him from the fingerprints"
05:24:21<fireonlive>i could see that!
05:24:50<project10>"Supo", https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_Security_and_Intelligence_Service
05:24:59<fireonlive>certainly been used in the past at least in the US
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09:20:17<systwi_>https://documents.westerndigital.com/content/dam/doc-library/en_us/assets/public/western-digital/product/internal-drives/wd-blue-hdd/product-brief-western-digital-wd-blue-pc-hdd.pdf
09:20:38<systwi_>> NoTouch™ Ramp Load Technology
09:20:44<systwi_>> The recording head never touches the disk media, ensuring significantly less wear to the recording head and media as well as better drive protection in transit.
09:21:01<systwi_>Am I wrong, or...did the recording heads _never_ touch the platters?
09:21:55<systwi_>Pretty clever (deceptive) marketing if so.
09:22:57<systwi_>"My shirt has EasyFit™ Technology; it has holes for your arms and head!"
09:26:51<systwi_>s/recording heads/heads/
09:49:50<lumidify>Oh, I've definitely seen some drives where the recording heads touched the platters. :P
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15:42:19<nicolas17>systwi_: better drive protection in transit? the head is not even close to the platters while the disk is off, wtf
15:52:01<systwi>That'
15:52:40<systwi>That's _old_ disks where the head had to be parked before powering the disk off.
15:53:12<nicolas17>yes, newer ones do it automatically :P
15:53:50<systwi>WD is still using that as a selling point, haha, really scraping the bottom of the barrel, no?
15:54:32<nicolas17>" The first commercial hard-disk drive, the IBM 305 RAMAC (1956), used forced air to maintain a 0.002 inch (51 μm) between the head and disk"
15:56:20<systwi>Ahh, big blue stole WD's NoTouch™ Ramp Load Technology! Those thieves!
16:13:45<nicolas17>systwi: someone told me "Well, it's a change from how WD drives usually work"
16:13:56<nicolas17>(crashing)
16:26:16<myself>Yeah, back in the stepper-motor era, heads could definitely touch the media if you didn't park it before spinning it down. But I think ever since voice-coils became a thing, there's a return spring that moves the heads onto the ramp as soon as the voice-coils release their holding force, and the platters are still moving a pretty good clip when
16:26:16<myself>that happens.
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16:57:50<nicolas17>myself: I read about disks using the spinning motor as a generator to get energy to park properly, in case of sudden power loss
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17:07:31<fireonlive>so my hard drives are just moaning all the time?
17:08:37<nicolas17>wat
17:10:42<DigitalDragons>I mean, with what you store on them...
17:11:04<fireonlive>😅
17:11:16<fireonlive>I saw voice coils and that was my first thought
17:13:54<nicolas17>fireonlive: the disk head is super super close to the disk platter but never actually touching it; it's edging
17:16:23<fireonlive>😳🥵
17:16:32<fireonlive>constantly edging
17:18:31<@JAA>systwi: https://xkcd.com/641/
17:19:11<fireonlive>🤤
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17:21:48<fireonlive>I was going to say we were webrecorder free but that doesn’t really work, because although it’s abestos people actually continue to line it up and snort it
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17:36:58<fireonlive>https://appleinsider.com/articles/24/02/06/300-vision-pro-developer-strap-is-just-an-expensive-usb2-device
17:37:00<fireonlive>lol
17:43:08<nicolas17>return it
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17:53:19<nicolas17>I wonder if my ISP will get angry at the amount of data I'm uploading
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17:59:56<myself>I cancelled my residential-class plan and switched to business-class and they haven't said shit since, I love it. Same modem, same service address, much better interactions when I call support, actually slightly cheaper cuz I went down a BS speed grade. I should've done this years ago.
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18:24:55<yzqzss>any secrets hidden in [[https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/File:Archiveteamsmall.png]]? https://bpa.st/JELQ
18:24:55<yzqzss>There appears to be 77KiB of non-image-related data I guess.
18:31:25<fireonlive>🤔
18:31:29<fireonlive>interesting
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18:32:14<fireonlive>wonder if it’s just acrobat bullshit?
18:39:11<yzqzss>Perhaps just lacks compression? I'm not an expert :/
18:41:00<@JAA>The raw image data should be 135 * 155 * 4 = 83700 bytes.
18:41:23<fireonlive>Preview.app doesn't say much, other than it was made in "Software: Macromedia Fireworks 8"
18:41:44<@JAA>Yeah, just found that in the data as well. lol
18:42:07<fireonlive>:3
18:42:09<@JAA>> Creation Time^@01/17/09
18:42:12<@JAA>Bloody Americans!
18:42:27<fireonlive>tsk tsk
18:43:23<@JAA>It does use deflate, but maybe its settings are such that it effectively doesn't compress.
18:44:25<yzqzss>Let me upload a new one (7.4KiB) to save everyone's bandwidth. lol.
18:45:05<@JAA>pngcrush?
18:51:51<nicolas17>RIP iTunes
18:52:40<nicolas17>https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210384
18:55:59<yzqzss>pngquant --speed 1 --quality 69 :)
18:56:54<@JAA>--quality ಠ_ಠ
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18:57:18<@JAA>Oh, lossy compressor, hell no.
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19:02:14<yzqzss>`pngcrush -reduce -rute` outputs 20KiB. <del>Lossy compression wins, absolutely.</del>
19:11:20fireonlive can't remember what ericlaw suggested
19:11:47<fireonlive>besides use webp i guess
19:13:49<fireonlive>oh right, not via him but https://squoosh.app/ is a thing
19:14:25<fireonlive>hmm not that one
19:15:02<fireonlive>optipng + stuff i guess
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20:22:42<fireonlive>unifi, the makers of 'reboot this every 24 hours for a prayer of stability', have now released wifi 7 gear: https://mailchi.mp/ubnt/experience-6-ghz-wifi-with-unifi-7
20:26:32<katia>death2unifi
20:26:45<katia>my u6 pro is so unstable :|
20:30:04<fireonlive>:(
20:30:36<fireonlive>too bad like ruckus etc etc are $999999999999
20:30:49<katia>yeah :[
20:31:06<katia>but i'm at a point where i am thinking about rebooting it everyday automatically
20:31:08<katia>lol
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20:33:12<nukke>it's funny cause the Unifi 7 Pro AP is only 2x2
20:33:34<nukke>in the past the Lite APs are 2x2 and Pros are 4x4
20:34:24<nukke>the 6E Enterprise is the real wifi7 AP
20:44:41<fireonlive>i actually once read that unifi is the kinda thing you want to put on one of those old school outlet timers lol
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20:54:20<@JAA>I have one of those, best I can do is 30 minutes outage. lol
20:54:32<@JAA>But of course, nowadays, you'd do this with a smort plug.
21:00:34<fireonlive>30 mins t_t
21:00:41<fireonlive>and ah ye :3
21:00:46<fireonlive>smort all the things!
21:00:59<katia>wifi7 toothbrush inc.
21:01:35<fireonlive>wifi 7 camera-dildo
21:02:02<fireonlive>-+rss- Vision Pro Teardown Part 2: https://www.ifixit.com/News/90409/vision-pro-teardown-part-2-whats-the-display-resolution https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39290456
21:02:05<fireonlive>part 2!
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21:12:20<systwi_>JAA: I was shopping recently and came across generic cane sugar, and cane sugar certified to be vegan.
21:12:42systwi_ wonders how much meat was in their generic sugar they used last week...
21:13:10<systwi_>Clever marketing. Awful, clever, awful marketing. :-P
21:13:40<@JAA>systwi_: Not the same thing, cane sugar isn't always vegan because some animal stuff is used in processing sometimes.
21:13:47<joepie91|m>not necessarily, I believe a bunch of vegan certifications also require ruling out cross-contamination
21:13:49<@JAA>Same with beers, wine, apple juice, etc.
21:13:56<joepie91|m>also that
21:14:04<systwi_>...
21:14:08<systwi_>That's a thing?
21:14:18<systwi_>(hit enter too quickly, oops)
21:14:45<systwi_>Ruling out cross-contamination makes sense.
21:15:40<joepie91|m>yeah, substances used during production that do not remain in the final product generally do not need to be listed in the ingredients afaik, and can be animal-derived
21:15:45<flashfire42>Honey is vegan if done properly and I will die on this hill
21:16:02<joepie91|m>I do not recommend dying
21:16:54<@JAA>flashfire42: That just gets into the discussion about what 'vegan' means exactly. Ask ten vegans, and you'll get ten subtly different answers.
21:17:28<flashfire42>JAA in which case I have successfully caused chaos and can move on to the rest of my to do list
21:17:33<@JAA>Ranging from 'no animal products whatsoever' through 'where practical' to 'if it causes them no harm'.
21:17:39<systwi_>Interesting. Maybe it's similar to that awful animal testing some soap manufacturers do. "Vegan soap" could mean not tested on animals, possibly.
21:17:43<@JAA>Honey and eggs can be compatible with the last one.
21:18:37<flashfire42>I always understood vegan as to be causing no harm to the animal. Eggs can be a touchy one due to cage eggs but Honey is easy if the bees arent happy they will move the colony
21:18:58<@JAA>Not quite that easy given how the bees are often treated in commercial production.
21:18:58<joepie91|m>that's not that simple either
21:19:17<systwi_>Maybe I can get by dressing in a cow costume and getting some milk from a--never mind, rice milk suits my tastes anyway, hehe.
21:19:27<joepie91|m>(it's also eerily similar to the "if you don't like it here, move" argument)
21:20:04<@JAA>systwi_: Yes, animal testing is another aspect, not only for soap but cosmetics in general.
21:20:12<@JAA>Medication is always an interesting topic.
21:20:13<flashfire42>joepie91|m I looked into that but moving on from this mortal coil of your own volition is frowned upon
21:21:44<@JAA>flashfire42: Basically, honey and eggs can be considered vegan by those people with a more open definition of veganism if they can verify that the bees and chicken are being treated well, e.g. by keeping them themselves or friends etc. But commercial eggs or honey wouldn't be considered vegan by anyone.
21:22:28<joepie91|m>I wouldn't say "by anyone", but it's definitely a point of contention
21:22:30<@JAA>An example for bees is taking away all their honey and feeding them sugar water in winter. That's very common in commercial production because it's more profitable.
21:23:00<systwi_>Another thing to consider too, products like wool blankets. I'm not positive, but I think some sheep can have health issues if their coat isn't shorn. So...what, waste the wool?
21:23:45<systwi_>I personally would rather minimise waste over rejecting wool in something in a case like that.
21:24:18<flashfire42|m>The wool thing is an issue because if memory serves we bred them that way
21:24:39<@JAA>Some would argue that by buying wool products, you support the industry, causing more animal harm overall.
21:24:56<systwi_>Most likely has some truth to it, similar to why "feral cows" sounds strange (I would love to see a wild cow!)
21:25:13<flashfire42|m>If you think shearing them is bad you haven’t heard what the new Zealand folks do to them
21:25:42<@JAA>Also look up mulesing for a not-fun time.
21:33:03<fireonlive><joepie91|m> I do not recommend dying < :(
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21:48:11<nicolas17>a vegetarian is something you eat
22:07:23<flashfire42>Yum vegetarians
22:25:43<fireonlive>https://blog.chriszacharias.com/a-conspiracy-to-kill-ie6
22:25:59fireonlive is now known as vegetarian
22:26:04<fireonlive>:3
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