00:17:23<nicolas17>grafana loki
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02:29:26<nulldata>https://www.pcgamer.com/microsoft-cuts-1900-jobs-at-activision-blizzard-and-xbox-blizzard-president-mike-ybarra-leaves-the-company-and-the-studios-survival-game-has-been-cancelled/
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03:18:03<fireonlive>https://blog.trailofbits.com/2024/01/25/we-build-x-509-chains-so-you-dont-have-to/
03:18:10<fireonlive>cc JAA and anyone else who pythons
03:18:13<fireonlive>🐍
03:18:56<fireonlive>(via https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39129806)
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03:26:37<fireonlive>nicolas17: did you do the thing?
03:44:37<@JAA>fireonlive: Neat, thanks!
03:47:46<fireonlive>:)
03:50:42<@JAA>And in Python 3.13, there'll finally be a way to get the cert chain, too.
03:51:31<@JAA>The cert chain the peer sent, I should clarify.
03:54:58<fireonlive>^_^
03:56:10<pabs>hexa-: is gluon FOSS?
03:57:35<@JAA>BSD 2-clause: https://github.com/freifunk-gluon/gluon
03:59:15<pabs>ah, its at the OS layer
03:59:49pabs thought it was WiFi chip firmware
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05:12:13<nulldata>https://twitter.com/jasonschreier/status/1750543289227284649
05:12:13<eggdrop>nitter: https://nitter.projectsegfau.lt/jasonschreier/status/1750543289227284649
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07:20:57<fireonlive>nitter is slowly falling over
07:21:07<fireonlive>,, set nitterHost nitter.us.projectsegfau.lt
07:21:07<eggdrop>ok: nitter.us.projectsegfau.lt -2ms-
07:21:38<fireonlive>https://status.d420.de/
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07:25:05<fireonlive>,, set nitterHost farside.link/nitter
07:25:05<eggdrop>ok: farside.link/nitter -0ms-
07:25:07<DigitalDragons>seems like Twitter disabled guest accounts :(
07:25:31<fireonlive>yeah :( the endpoint is gone apparently
07:28:06<project10>https://i.imgur.com/iLnszwr.gif
07:28:35<DigitalDragons>next up: real account spam?
07:36:38<fireonlive>nulldata: that's.. pretty sad
07:36:58<fireonlive>DigitalDragons: perhaps! just need a fistful of SIMs lol
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07:53:23<DigitalDragons>oh, are they doing phone verification now? :/
07:55:30<fireonlive>sometimes
07:55:45<fireonlive>i think? thought might be ok for read only
08:01:53<kiska>I think you might need a handful of credit/debit cards as well soon
08:01:56<kiska>soonβ„’*
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08:04:49<fireonlive>o3o
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08:07:27<kiska>Nope, I don't have money :D
08:07:34<kiska>Go and tweet Elon :D
08:07:41<fireonlive>:P
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10:53:31<kiska>I keep doing this https://server8.kiska.pw/uploads/9787da6ac9baa376/20240126_214718.jpg
10:53:49<kiska>https://server8.kiska.pw/uploads/1ba62732eb1393d3/20240126_214710.jpg
10:54:03<kiska>At least the trains are frequent https://server8.kiska.pw/uploads/10841e63c2038970/Screenshot_20240126_214324_TripView.jpg
10:58:27<kiska>fireonlive help me I am being squished in a train again
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15:39:04<nicolas17>https://opensource.samsung.com/ can anyone load this?
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15:39:33<nicolas17>I wonder if they banned my IP
15:40:34<joepie91|m>nicolas17: loads for me, but very slowly
15:45:49<kiska>Loads for me
15:45:55<kiska>And quite snappy
15:47:34<nicolas17>* TLSv1.3 (OUT), TLS alert, close notify (256):
15:47:36<nicolas17>curl: (52) Empty reply from server
15:52:33<kiska>Here is mine https://paste.kiska.pw/SprigsInflatable
15:54:53<qwertyasdfuiopghjkl>Took about 20 seconds to load for me
15:57:21<kiska>Hrm... maybe it doesn't like nicolas17 and whatever region he happens to be in
15:57:38<kiska>Cause over here in Oceania it took about 1-2 seconds to load
16:04:20<nicolas17>sometimes I get a closed connection, sometimes I get a 302 redirect to the same page (with some incapsula cookies)
16:04:45<nicolas17>but sending the request with those cookies causes the same, either closed connection or a second redirect
16:05:37<nicolas17>https://paste.kiska.pw/SamplesBlondes
16:09:55kiska shrug
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16:39:46kiska rm -rf fireonlive
16:39:49<kiska>:p
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18:31:45<@JAA>lol https://about.gitlab.com/releases/2024/01/25/critical-security-release-gitlab-16-8-1-released/
18:31:48<@JAA>> An issue has been discovered in GitLab CE/EE affecting all versions from 16.0 prior to 16.5.8, 16.6 prior to 16.6.6, 16.7 prior to 16.7.4, and 16.8 prior to 16.8.1 which allows an authenticated user to write files to arbitrary locations on the GitLab server while creating a workspace.
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18:35:08<nukke>BRO PLEASE LET ME BE THERE WAS A CVE10.0 LIKE A WEEK AGO FFS
18:35:22<nukke>πŸ˜ƒπŸ”«
18:36:26<fireonlive>πŸ™ƒπŸ™ƒπŸ™ƒπŸ™ƒπŸ™ƒπŸ™ƒπŸ™ƒ
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18:40:01<@JAA>nukke: Don't worry, this is only 9.9. :-)
18:40:41<@JAA>Probably means it can be ignored. WCGW?
18:41:59<nukke>here's hoping nothing breaks. cybersecurity is already on my ass about it lol
18:42:14<nukke>these mfers also released the patch on a friday last time
18:45:40<fireonlive>kiska: thank you :)
18:45:47<fireonlive>all i’ve ever wanted πŸ₯Ή
18:50:55<fireonlive>β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”
18:51:03<fireonlive>for your seeing eyes: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-67961089
18:51:09<fireonlive>though uh, content warning
18:51:21<fireonlive>it is news - though!
18:51:28<kiska>Uh what?
18:51:45<fireonlive>(two seperate topics)
18:51:59<fireonlive>news link is for everyone :P
18:52:32<fireonlive>the knife colour choice tho πŸ‘ŒπŸ»
18:53:37<nicolas17>wtf
18:56:41<@JAA>Swiss quality!
19:00:21<fireonlive>:D
19:19:02<fireonlive>good news everyone! thanks to JAA i've recovered the images that i've posted here that i accidentally the whole thing other day
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19:19:41<fireonlive>(lost 4 images from PMs and 1 other)
19:20:02<fireonlive>and now i get to look at restic later :p
19:21:02<fireonlive>there was a ~10 hour gap between last auto VM snapshot and the accidentally the whole thing
19:21:08<fireonlive>but uh
19:21:10<fireonlive>JAA++
19:21:10<eggdrop>[karma] 'JAA' now has 15 karma!
19:22:23<@JAA>:-)
19:22:27<@JAA>!ao++
19:22:34<@JAA>:-(
19:23:01<fireonlive>ah it ignores lines with !
19:23:06<fireonlive>starting with !
19:23:13<fireonlive>ao++
19:23:14<eggdrop>[karma] 'ao' now has 1 karma!
19:24:14<fireonlive>hmm
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19:25:22<fireonlive>!ao++
19:25:23<eggdrop>[karma] '!ao' now has 1 karma!
19:25:24<fireonlive>:D
19:25:53<@JAA>fireonlive++
19:25:54<eggdrop>[karma] 'fireonlive' now has 13 karma!
19:25:59<fireonlive>^_^
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20:04:20<Barto>JAA: lol, the flag is a big plus
20:05:08<@JAA>:-)
20:06:14<nicolas17>Barto: you mean switzerland?
20:10:16<Barto>:-)
20:10:43<Barto>that was in reference of the bbc article posted earlier
20:25:13<fireonlive>nicolas17: not often that tor is the solution to work around a ban lol
20:25:35<fireonlive>also thanks i'll check out grafana loki out
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20:52:51<fireonlive>hmmm
20:52:56<fireonlive>https://nitter.net is working again
20:53:18<fireonlive>nvm
20:53:18<fireonlive>lol
20:53:34<fireonlive>guess i was hitting the cache for some things
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21:28:35<fireonlive>*status- *** Writing the config file failed
21:28:37<fireonlive>oh shit
21:28:43<fireonlive> 0 100% /
21:28:45<fireonlive>ah yes
21:30:12<fireonlive>6.9G ./.thelounge
21:30:13<fireonlive>nice
21:30:49<fireonlive>ah, docker's .log file
21:31:19<fireonlive>βœ… solved
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21:39:33<Terbium>you should setup log rotation if you don't have it enabled
21:41:14<nukke>the correct answer is and always will be: buy more storage
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21:41:26<nukke>those logs will come in handy one day
21:41:51<fireonlive>for docker indeed i do >_<
21:42:39<fireonlive>this case i was running websocat inside docker (no native package) and parsing stdout.. but uh forgot stdout is also logged so the full archivebot firehose went to a nice .json file on disk in addition to just what i wanted out of it lol
21:42:57<@JAA>Nice
21:42:58<fireonlive>jank + jank = fell down a bit
21:43:01<fireonlive>x3
21:43:45<@JAA>Speaking of which, how do you manage your Docker logs and in particular keeping them after a container's lifetime?
21:45:02<@JAA>I wrote some awkward scripts for this at one point, exporting the logs before decommissioning the container, but surely there's a better way. It doesn't integrate well with things like watchtower and `--rm`, obviously.
21:45:22<fireonlive>https://dl.fireon.live/irc/6e1707c4ca1248f0/sideshow-bob-rakes.gif me lately
21:45:44<fireonlive>currently i completely throw them all away πŸ˜…
21:46:16<@JAA>https://dl.fireon.live/irc/d4ba4e80d890fc50/wtf-delete.png
21:46:21<fireonlive>:D
21:46:32<fireonlive>i was thinking just shoving it into the almighty pipeline that is journald though
21:46:56<@JAA>Right
21:46:59<fireonlive>https://docs.docker.com/config/containers/logging/journald/
21:48:02<@JAA>Yeah, I should probably try that.
21:48:03<imer>I tried that at one point, I think I wasn't too happy with it since journald just "gives up" and drops logs if volume is too high (i'm sure you can configure this)
21:48:14<@JAA>Ah, fun
21:48:18<Terbium>I just ship my logs to a Loki log collector
21:48:35<Terbium>with high compression ratio I get to save a ton of space
21:48:39<Terbium>for my log heavy stuff
21:48:55<Terbium>*cough* discord error messages *cough*
21:49:15<imer>No solution here though, they just go straight into the bin
21:49:48<fireonlive>oh right, nico told me to look at https://grafana.com/oss/loki/
21:49:54<fireonlive>apparently it's the new ELK
21:50:10<fireonlive>so i'm not blowing all my money on cloud logs :p
21:51:52<imer>using loki at work (for very low volume) for a few months and thats been fine, not had to do any digging so far though *knocks on wood* dunno how well that'd work
21:56:43<fireonlive>oh awesome
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21:56:57<fireonlive>i assume i can ingest standard syslog over udp/tcp as well eh
21:57:17<Terbium>it's very lightweight compared to ELK
21:57:30<Terbium>it skips a lot of indexing so if you need to run queries often, probably not for you
21:57:50<fireonlive>ah ok
21:57:53<fireonlive>not too often for me
21:57:57<Terbium>I use it for bulk log retention for compressing 100s of GBs of logs easily and having a easy way to query stuff if needed
21:57:59<fireonlive>just sometimes out of a 'what's going on'
21:58:03<@JAA>Yeah right, Loki's also been on my radar for a while.
21:58:23<Terbium>The config is very arcane however
21:58:45<Terbium>but once you get a working config, everything is okie dokies
21:59:00<fireonlive>sweet :)
21:59:30<fireonlive>last i looked into log stuff that was self-hosted everyone was logstash this logstash that lol so i was wondering what the latest hotness was :d
22:01:00<nukke>Prometheus + Loki
22:01:08<nukke>that's the current hot one
22:01:17<@JAA>YAML :-(
22:01:40<nukke>https://github.com/grafana/loki
22:02:10<fireonlive>=]
22:02:16<fireonlive>i shall give it the 'ol college try
22:02:50<fireonlive>maybe i should use !remindme to tell me to go to bed or something
22:02:52<fireonlive>πŸ§Ÿβ€β™‚οΈ
22:03:26<imer>dont forget to set multiple ones in case you get distracted by the first 3
22:04:01<imer>s/by/after/
22:04:25<fireonlive>ah yes xP
22:04:52<nukke>fireonlive is the type of person that procrastinates while sleeping
22:05:23<nukke>two dreams at once cause he can't focus
22:05:43<@JAA>'Eh, I'll finish this dream later.'
22:07:42<@JAA>Ew: https://github.com/grafana/loki/issues/10648
22:07:57<fireonlive>:P
22:08:13<fireonlive>bad grafana! no cookie
22:09:34<nukke>go to bed
22:10:21<nukke>how long before tagged as WONTFIX
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22:12:50<fireonlive>nice timing
22:13:07<fireonlive>still have another 9+ hours until sleepy time i think
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22:15:06<imer>!remind fireonlive 10h "good night!"
22:15:06<eggdrop>[remind] ok, i'll remind fireonlive
22:16:02<that_lurker>https://lounge.kuhaon.fun/folder/173882d712d4bdd8/GO%20TO%20BED.mp4
22:17:03<fireonlive>:3
22:17:19<fireonlive>that_lurker: ;)
22:21:17<pabs>https://www.theregister.com/2024/01/19/hps_ceo_spells_it_out/
22:22:40<fireonlive>"We are investing in that customer" -_-
22:24:53<imer>wasn't that obvious with cheapo printers costing as much as a few ink refills?
22:25:01<nicolas17>https://www.theregister.com/2019/10/09/hp_supplies/
22:25:04<nicolas17>this seems reasonable?
22:25:40<imer>I'd rather they just sell the hardware at cost instead of doing all the ink bs, yeah
22:26:49<nicolas17>though it would be ridiculous if the printer got more expensive, users got the "choice" of using third-party ink, but first-party ink was still expensive af because it's still trying to make up for the below-cost printer price
22:27:54<@JAA>'Cheap printer, expensive ink' is outdated. They're pushing for ink subscriptions instead.
22:31:24<fireonlive>obviously, we should archive this: https://twitter.com/breaking_frames
22:31:24<eggdrop>nitter: https://farside.link/nitter/breaking_frames
22:32:01<imer>but why
22:32:16<fireonlive>haha ikr
22:32:44<fireonlive>apparently all of Breaking Bad & El Camino have been done before on that account too
22:32:49<that_lurker>HP: If you print more than one page a week you need our Bussiness plan if not your ink cardrige will not work anymore
22:32:58<that_lurker>or ads will be printed on your pages
22:33:07<nicolas17>I had an EPSON
22:33:24<nicolas17>nowadays I use a pay-per-page system
22:33:32<fireonlive>brother laser printers used to be the goat; then they added DRM chips to the toners too
22:33:36<nicolas17>(if I need to print something I walk to the print shop)
22:34:09<fireonlive>:o
22:34:30fireonlive prints at work
22:34:37<that_lurker>:O
22:34:48<fireonlive>>:3
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22:37:20<fireonlive>Windows to get COLEMAK support: https://bsky.app/profile/jenmsft.bsky.social/post/3kjw2zve7g22j
22:38:17<fireonlive>well; the stable channel will eventually. it's in canary now
22:38:23<@JAA>Brother used to be the usual recommendation in any online discussion about this bullshit. That sucks to hear. :-(
22:38:42<fireonlive>yeah :(
22:38:48<@JAA>Personally, I print a couple pages per year, so I don't even have a printer.
22:39:18<nicolas17>last time I bought ink, the epson original cartridges cost 5x (!) compared to the fake brand ones
22:39:19<fireonlive>i got rid of my home printer; but i have visitors now and then who wish to print things now and then so.... i might end up with one again on the network lol
22:39:28<nicolas17>so I got the fake brand ones
22:39:35<fireonlive>laser printer only though; inkjet is bad
22:39:36<nicolas17>and the printer then didn't work right
22:39:41<fireonlive>oh fun
22:39:59<nicolas17>and that's the last time I used the printer
22:40:22<@JAA>The ink tank models seem kind of interesting.
22:40:27<fireonlive>they have tank ink printers now where you just dump ink in a tank.. no drm involved
22:40:33fireonlive eyes JAA
22:40:34<nicolas17>I removed the raspberry pi network print server
22:40:40<@JAA>Get ninja'd!
22:40:43<fireonlive>:P
22:40:48<fireonlive>though i do like the monochrome lasers :3
22:40:55<fireonlive>no clogging, no drying up, etc
22:41:01<fireonlive>no 'ink purging'
22:41:03<@JAA>Yeah, ink is better for photos and stuff.
22:41:10<fireonlive>true yeah
22:42:15<fireonlive>need a colour plotter printer to print out some 'wall art'
22:42:17<fireonlive>:3
22:42:30<project10>πŸ†
22:42:34<fireonlive>;)
22:42:58<nicolas17>https://shipadick.com/
22:43:31<fireonlive>noice
22:43:43<fireonlive>i tried to send a chocolate dick to someone once... but uh it was summer and it melted
22:43:46<fireonlive>:|
22:43:58<project10>sad to hear brother isn't an option anymore. I have a 15-year old brother laser, is a tank.
22:44:34<fireonlive>ye i guess have to snag a model made before they went to the bad side
22:44:52<fireonlive>where's my GNU/LaserJet?
22:45:03<fireonlive>RMS deliver me a printer
22:45:17<project10>> Please note, we let our dicks rest on the weekends.
22:45:26<that_lurker>framework might make a printer which would be nice
22:45:26<nicolas17>it's a bit annoying that it costs 15 USD for a piece of cardboard tbh
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22:46:19<@JAA>Hmm... https://shipabagofdicks.com/collections/all/products/the-spring-loaded-dick-bomb-prank
22:47:04<@JAA>lol: https://shipabagofdicks.com/collections/all/products/rainbow-dick-candle
22:47:13<fireonlive>oh lord dick confetti
22:47:33<fireonlive>..i'd probably actually buy the candle, at least once
22:47:40<@JAA>https://shipabagofdicks.com/collections/all/products/the-valentines-day-dick
22:47:50<that_lurker>https://www.etsy.com/fi-en/listing/1537148514/giant-penis-body-pillow-plush-sex
22:47:52<@JAA>Neat shop.
22:48:03<fireonlive>ah it was like that! but different box :3
22:48:17<project10>a little outside consumer space/pricing, but I've also a Xerox WorkCentre 3325, they don't have the same DRM shenanigans in the office/enterprise space
22:48:34<fireonlive>that_lurker: framework printer? rly :o
22:49:25<that_lurker>Well there are no current plans for that, but there is a LOT of interest for one
22:49:29<fireonlive>ah :3
22:49:32<fireonlive>project10: nice
22:50:29<project10>duplex printing is fancy :)
22:50:35<fireonlive>:d
22:50:38<fireonlive>so many moving parts
22:51:26<@JAA>I recently saw a tiny Canon (I think?) printer that had duplex printing.
22:51:33<@JAA>Like consumer compact printer thingy.
22:51:36<@JAA>I had no idea that existed.
22:52:15<nicolas17>huh
22:52:23<fireonlive>hmm
22:52:28<nicolas17>shipabagofdicks says it supports paypal but I can't find how to actually use paypal
22:52:55<nulldata>I've had nothing but issues with Xerox printers and copiers
22:53:13<@JAA>It wasn't this model but: https://www.usa.canon.com/shop/p/pixma-ts9520
22:53:44<fireonlive>here i found out in a week or so nicolas17 had my address the whole time
22:54:05<@JAA>Did you not use 7 proxies?
22:54:22<fireonlive>only 6 uwu
22:54:38<@JAA>Rookie mistake
22:54:40<fireonlive>hmm that is quite compact for duplex
22:54:44<fireonlive>indeedy
22:54:46<fireonlive>:c
22:55:28<@JAA>lol, I just got the default nginx page on archive.ph.
22:56:30<fireonlive>lol
22:56:34<fireonlive>seems ok here
22:56:53<@JAA>Not loading at all here now.
22:57:03<@JAA>It was on plain HTTP, too.
22:58:40<@JAA>The one I saw was even a bit smaller, I think. Less than A4 horizontally.
22:58:57<qwertyasdfuiopghjkl>It's currently loading fine for me, but the "default page for a short time then not loading at all" thing happened to me a while ago too
23:00:04<@JAA>Maybe I just happen to hit a particular server that's currently being rebooted or similar.
23:04:38<fireonlive>"Save Page Now browser crashed on https://archive.ph/."
23:04:39<fireonlive>lol
23:11:20<nicolas17>bag of dicks ordered, now I'll be anxious until it arrives
23:12:19<nicolas17>anxiously waiting for the "who the fuck ordered me this" reaction
23:12:34<fireonlive>:D
23:12:39<fireonlive>can't wait to hear about it
23:23:24<@JAA>TIL UTF-1. 66 protected characters and mod 190 arithmetic for the rest. This sounds even worse than Punycode.
23:25:36<@JAA>And I got there via UTF-5, which was a competitor of Punycode. Simply base32 encoding, it seems. 2^5 = 32 of course.
23:26:29<@JAA>And UTF-6, which was UTF-5 plus a running length encoding, so obviously + 1. lol
23:30:51<imer>"was" good lol
23:32:51<fireonlive>UTF-65535 pls
23:33:33<@JAA>https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc4042 :-)
23:36:44<@JAA>So I looked a bit at Loki docs. Promtail appears to be the thing to send logs to it. It does 'retry then discard'. :-(
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23:38:03<@JAA>It's configurable to an extent, but not sure how hard it'd be to make it cache locally in case of network problems etc.
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23:46:21<fireonlive>aw :(
23:46:36<fireonlive>"you didn't want those logs anyway, right?"
23:48:03<@JAA>Terbium: If you have any insight into this, I'd love to hear it. :-)
23:48:49<@JAA>My eventual goal would be a central location for all of my logs, including from devices that aren't constantly online (shipped when they are, obviously).
23:49:22<fireonlive>https://www.theregister.com/2024/01/26/20000_tech_layoffs/
23:49:24<@JAA>Maybe I'm just misreading things. :-)
23:49:26<fireonlive>πŸ₯ΎπŸ₯ΎπŸ₯ΎπŸ₯ΎπŸ₯ΎπŸ₯ΎπŸ₯ΎπŸ₯ΎπŸ₯Ύ
23:49:32<fireonlive>:c
23:50:55<@JAA>This is where I found it: https://grafana.com/docs/loki/latest/send-data/promtail/troubleshooting/#loki-is-unavailable