| 00:17:23 | <nicolas17> | grafana loki |
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| 02:29:26 | <nulldata> | https://www.pcgamer.com/microsoft-cuts-1900-jobs-at-activision-blizzard-and-xbox-blizzard-president-mike-ybarra-leaves-the-company-and-the-studios-survival-game-has-been-cancelled/ |
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| 03:18:03 | <fireonlive> | https://blog.trailofbits.com/2024/01/25/we-build-x-509-chains-so-you-dont-have-to/ |
| 03:18:10 | <fireonlive> | cc JAA and anyone else who pythons |
| 03:18:13 | <fireonlive> | π |
| 03:18:56 | <fireonlive> | (via https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39129806) |
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| 03:26:37 | <fireonlive> | nicolas17: did you do the thing? |
| 03:44:37 | <@JAA> | fireonlive: Neat, thanks! |
| 03:47:46 | <fireonlive> | :) |
| 03:50:42 | <@JAA> | And in Python 3.13, there'll finally be a way to get the cert chain, too. |
| 03:51:31 | <@JAA> | The cert chain the peer sent, I should clarify. |
| 03:54:58 | <fireonlive> | ^_^ |
| 03:56:10 | <pabs> | hexa-: is gluon FOSS? |
| 03:57:35 | <@JAA> | BSD 2-clause: https://github.com/freifunk-gluon/gluon |
| 03:59:15 | <pabs> | ah, its at the OS layer |
| 03:59:49 | | pabs thought it was WiFi chip firmware |
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| 05:12:13 | <nulldata> | https://twitter.com/jasonschreier/status/1750543289227284649 |
| 05:12:13 | <eggdrop> | nitter: https://nitter.projectsegfau.lt/jasonschreier/status/1750543289227284649 |
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| 07:20:57 | <fireonlive> | nitter is slowly falling over |
| 07:21:07 | <fireonlive> | ,, set nitterHost nitter.us.projectsegfau.lt |
| 07:21:07 | <eggdrop> | ok: nitter.us.projectsegfau.lt -2ms- |
| 07:21:38 | <fireonlive> | https://status.d420.de/ |
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| 07:25:05 | <fireonlive> | ,, set nitterHost farside.link/nitter |
| 07:25:05 | <eggdrop> | ok: farside.link/nitter -0ms- |
| 07:25:07 | <DigitalDragons> | seems like Twitter disabled guest accounts :( |
| 07:25:31 | <fireonlive> | yeah :( the endpoint is gone apparently |
| 07:28:06 | <project10> | https://i.imgur.com/iLnszwr.gif |
| 07:28:35 | <DigitalDragons> | next up: real account spam? |
| 07:36:38 | <fireonlive> | nulldata: that's.. pretty sad |
| 07:36:58 | <fireonlive> | DigitalDragons: perhaps! just need a fistful of SIMs lol |
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| 07:53:23 | <DigitalDragons> | oh, are they doing phone verification now? :/ |
| 07:55:30 | <fireonlive> | sometimes |
| 07:55:45 | <fireonlive> | i think? thought might be ok for read only |
| 08:01:53 | <kiska> | I think you might need a handful of credit/debit cards as well soon |
| 08:01:56 | <kiska> | soonβ’* |
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| 08:04:49 | <fireonlive> | o3o |
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| 08:07:27 | <kiska> | Nope, I don't have money :D |
| 08:07:34 | <kiska> | Go and tweet Elon :D |
| 08:07:41 | <fireonlive> | :P |
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| 10:53:31 | <kiska> | I keep doing this https://server8.kiska.pw/uploads/9787da6ac9baa376/20240126_214718.jpg |
| 10:53:49 | <kiska> | https://server8.kiska.pw/uploads/1ba62732eb1393d3/20240126_214710.jpg |
| 10:54:03 | <kiska> | At least the trains are frequent https://server8.kiska.pw/uploads/10841e63c2038970/Screenshot_20240126_214324_TripView.jpg |
| 10:58:27 | <kiska> | fireonlive help me I am being squished in a train again |
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| 15:39:04 | <nicolas17> | https://opensource.samsung.com/ can anyone load this? |
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| 15:39:33 | <nicolas17> | I wonder if they banned my IP |
| 15:40:34 | <joepie91|m> | nicolas17: loads for me, but very slowly |
| 15:45:49 | <kiska> | Loads for me |
| 15:45:55 | <kiska> | And quite snappy |
| 15:47:34 | <nicolas17> | * TLSv1.3 (OUT), TLS alert, close notify (256): |
| 15:47:36 | <nicolas17> | curl: (52) Empty reply from server |
| 15:52:33 | <kiska> | Here is mine https://paste.kiska.pw/SprigsInflatable |
| 15:54:53 | <qwertyasdfuiopghjkl> | Took about 20 seconds to load for me |
| 15:57:21 | <kiska> | Hrm... maybe it doesn't like nicolas17 and whatever region he happens to be in |
| 15:57:38 | <kiska> | Cause over here in Oceania it took about 1-2 seconds to load |
| 16:04:20 | <nicolas17> | sometimes I get a closed connection, sometimes I get a 302 redirect to the same page (with some incapsula cookies) |
| 16:04:45 | <nicolas17> | but sending the request with those cookies causes the same, either closed connection or a second redirect |
| 16:05:37 | <nicolas17> | https://paste.kiska.pw/SamplesBlondes |
| 16:09:55 | | kiska shrug |
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| 16:30:43 | | fireonlive saves kiska |
| 16:39:46 | | kiska rm -rf fireonlive |
| 16:39:49 | <kiska> | :p |
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| 18:31:45 | <@JAA> | lol https://about.gitlab.com/releases/2024/01/25/critical-security-release-gitlab-16-8-1-released/ |
| 18:31:48 | <@JAA> | > An issue has been discovered in GitLab CE/EE affecting all versions from 16.0 prior to 16.5.8, 16.6 prior to 16.6.6, 16.7 prior to 16.7.4, and 16.8 prior to 16.8.1 which allows an authenticated user to write files to arbitrary locations on the GitLab server while creating a workspace. |
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| 18:35:08 | <nukke> | BRO PLEASE LET ME BE THERE WAS A CVE10.0 LIKE A WEEK AGO FFS |
| 18:35:22 | <nukke> | ππ« |
| 18:36:26 | <fireonlive> | πππππππ |
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| 18:40:01 | <@JAA> | nukke: Don't worry, this is only 9.9. :-) |
| 18:40:41 | <@JAA> | Probably means it can be ignored. WCGW? |
| 18:41:59 | <nukke> | here's hoping nothing breaks. cybersecurity is already on my ass about it lol |
| 18:42:14 | <nukke> | these mfers also released the patch on a friday last time |
| 18:45:40 | <fireonlive> | kiska: thank you :) |
| 18:45:47 | <fireonlive> | all iβve ever wanted π₯Ή |
| 18:50:55 | <fireonlive> | βββββββββββββββββ |
| 18:51:03 | <fireonlive> | for your seeing eyes: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-67961089 |
| 18:51:09 | <fireonlive> | though uh, content warning |
| 18:51:21 | <fireonlive> | it is news - though! |
| 18:51:28 | <kiska> | Uh what? |
| 18:51:45 | <fireonlive> | (two seperate topics) |
| 18:51:59 | <fireonlive> | news link is for everyone :P |
| 18:52:32 | <fireonlive> | the knife colour choice tho ππ» |
| 18:53:37 | <nicolas17> | wtf |
| 18:56:41 | <@JAA> | Swiss quality! |
| 19:00:21 | <fireonlive> | :D |
| 19:19:02 | <fireonlive> | good news everyone! thanks to JAA i've recovered the images that i've posted here that i accidentally the whole thing other day |
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| 19:19:41 | <fireonlive> | (lost 4 images from PMs and 1 other) |
| 19:20:02 | <fireonlive> | and now i get to look at restic later :p |
| 19:21:02 | <fireonlive> | there was a ~10 hour gap between last auto VM snapshot and the accidentally the whole thing |
| 19:21:08 | <fireonlive> | but uh |
| 19:21:10 | <fireonlive> | JAA++ |
| 19:21:10 | <eggdrop> | [karma] 'JAA' now has 15 karma! |
| 19:22:23 | <@JAA> | :-) |
| 19:22:27 | <@JAA> | !ao++ |
| 19:22:34 | <@JAA> | :-( |
| 19:23:01 | <fireonlive> | ah it ignores lines with ! |
| 19:23:06 | <fireonlive> | starting with ! |
| 19:23:13 | <fireonlive> | ao++ |
| 19:23:14 | <eggdrop> | [karma] 'ao' now has 1 karma! |
| 19:24:14 | <fireonlive> | hmm |
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| 19:25:22 | <fireonlive> | !ao++ |
| 19:25:23 | <eggdrop> | [karma] '!ao' now has 1 karma! |
| 19:25:24 | <fireonlive> | :D |
| 19:25:53 | <@JAA> | fireonlive++ |
| 19:25:54 | <eggdrop> | [karma] 'fireonlive' now has 13 karma! |
| 19:25:59 | <fireonlive> | ^_^ |
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| 20:04:20 | <Barto> | JAA: lol, the flag is a big plus |
| 20:05:08 | <@JAA> | :-) |
| 20:06:14 | <nicolas17> | Barto: you mean switzerland? |
| 20:10:16 | <Barto> | :-) |
| 20:10:43 | <Barto> | that was in reference of the bbc article posted earlier |
| 20:25:13 | <fireonlive> | nicolas17: not often that tor is the solution to work around a ban lol |
| 20:25:35 | <fireonlive> | also thanks i'll check out grafana loki out |
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| 20:52:51 | <fireonlive> | hmmm |
| 20:52:56 | <fireonlive> | https://nitter.net is working again |
| 20:53:18 | <fireonlive> | nvm |
| 20:53:18 | <fireonlive> | lol |
| 20:53:34 | <fireonlive> | guess i was hitting the cache for some things |
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| 21:28:35 | <fireonlive> | *status- *** Writing the config file failed |
| 21:28:37 | <fireonlive> | oh shit |
| 21:28:43 | <fireonlive> | 0 100% / |
| 21:28:45 | <fireonlive> | ah yes |
| 21:30:12 | <fireonlive> | 6.9G ./.thelounge |
| 21:30:13 | <fireonlive> | nice |
| 21:30:49 | <fireonlive> | ah, docker's .log file |
| 21:31:19 | <fireonlive> | β
solved |
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| 21:39:33 | <Terbium> | you should setup log rotation if you don't have it enabled |
| 21:41:14 | <nukke> | the correct answer is and always will be: buy more storage |
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| 21:41:26 | <nukke> | those logs will come in handy one day |
| 21:41:51 | <fireonlive> | for docker indeed i do >_< |
| 21:42:39 | <fireonlive> | this case i was running websocat inside docker (no native package) and parsing stdout.. but uh forgot stdout is also logged so the full archivebot firehose went to a nice .json file on disk in addition to just what i wanted out of it lol |
| 21:42:57 | <@JAA> | Nice |
| 21:42:58 | <fireonlive> | jank + jank = fell down a bit |
| 21:43:01 | <fireonlive> | x3 |
| 21:43:45 | <@JAA> | Speaking of which, how do you manage your Docker logs and in particular keeping them after a container's lifetime? |
| 21:45:02 | <@JAA> | I wrote some awkward scripts for this at one point, exporting the logs before decommissioning the container, but surely there's a better way. It doesn't integrate well with things like watchtower and `--rm`, obviously. |
| 21:45:22 | <fireonlive> | https://dl.fireon.live/irc/6e1707c4ca1248f0/sideshow-bob-rakes.gif me lately |
| 21:45:44 | <fireonlive> | currently i completely throw them all away π
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| 21:46:16 | <@JAA> | https://dl.fireon.live/irc/d4ba4e80d890fc50/wtf-delete.png |
| 21:46:21 | <fireonlive> | :D |
| 21:46:32 | <fireonlive> | i was thinking just shoving it into the almighty pipeline that is journald though |
| 21:46:56 | <@JAA> | Right |
| 21:46:59 | <fireonlive> | https://docs.docker.com/config/containers/logging/journald/ |
| 21:48:02 | <@JAA> | Yeah, I should probably try that. |
| 21:48:03 | <imer> | I tried that at one point, I think I wasn't too happy with it since journald just "gives up" and drops logs if volume is too high (i'm sure you can configure this) |
| 21:48:14 | <@JAA> | Ah, fun |
| 21:48:18 | <Terbium> | I just ship my logs to a Loki log collector |
| 21:48:35 | <Terbium> | with high compression ratio I get to save a ton of space |
| 21:48:39 | <Terbium> | for my log heavy stuff |
| 21:48:55 | <Terbium> | *cough* discord error messages *cough* |
| 21:49:15 | <imer> | No solution here though, they just go straight into the bin |
| 21:49:48 | <fireonlive> | oh right, nico told me to look at https://grafana.com/oss/loki/ |
| 21:49:54 | <fireonlive> | apparently it's the new ELK |
| 21:50:10 | <fireonlive> | so i'm not blowing all my money on cloud logs :p |
| 21:51:52 | <imer> | using loki at work (for very low volume) for a few months and thats been fine, not had to do any digging so far though *knocks on wood* dunno how well that'd work |
| 21:56:43 | <fireonlive> | oh awesome |
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| 21:56:57 | <fireonlive> | i assume i can ingest standard syslog over udp/tcp as well eh |
| 21:57:17 | <Terbium> | it's very lightweight compared to ELK |
| 21:57:30 | <Terbium> | it skips a lot of indexing so if you need to run queries often, probably not for you |
| 21:57:50 | <fireonlive> | ah ok |
| 21:57:53 | <fireonlive> | not too often for me |
| 21:57:57 | <Terbium> | I use it for bulk log retention for compressing 100s of GBs of logs easily and having a easy way to query stuff if needed |
| 21:57:59 | <fireonlive> | just sometimes out of a 'what's going on' |
| 21:58:03 | <@JAA> | Yeah right, Loki's also been on my radar for a while. |
| 21:58:23 | <Terbium> | The config is very arcane however |
| 21:58:45 | <Terbium> | but once you get a working config, everything is okie dokies |
| 21:59:00 | <fireonlive> | sweet :) |
| 21:59:30 | <fireonlive> | last i looked into log stuff that was self-hosted everyone was logstash this logstash that lol so i was wondering what the latest hotness was :d |
| 22:01:00 | <nukke> | Prometheus + Loki |
| 22:01:08 | <nukke> | that's the current hot one |
| 22:01:17 | <@JAA> | YAML :-( |
| 22:01:40 | <nukke> | https://github.com/grafana/loki |
| 22:02:10 | <fireonlive> | =] |
| 22:02:16 | <fireonlive> | i shall give it the 'ol college try |
| 22:02:50 | <fireonlive> | maybe i should use !remindme to tell me to go to bed or something |
| 22:02:52 | <fireonlive> | π§ββοΈ |
| 22:03:26 | <imer> | dont forget to set multiple ones in case you get distracted by the first 3 |
| 22:04:01 | <imer> | s/by/after/ |
| 22:04:25 | <fireonlive> | ah yes xP |
| 22:04:52 | <nukke> | fireonlive is the type of person that procrastinates while sleeping |
| 22:05:23 | <nukke> | two dreams at once cause he can't focus |
| 22:05:43 | <@JAA> | 'Eh, I'll finish this dream later.' |
| 22:07:42 | <@JAA> | Ew: https://github.com/grafana/loki/issues/10648 |
| 22:07:57 | <fireonlive> | :P |
| 22:08:13 | <fireonlive> | bad grafana! no cookie |
| 22:09:34 | <nukke> | go to bed |
| 22:10:21 | <nukke> | how long before tagged as WONTFIX |
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| 22:12:50 | <fireonlive> | nice timing |
| 22:13:07 | <fireonlive> | still have another 9+ hours until sleepy time i think |
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| 22:15:06 | <imer> | !remind fireonlive 10h "good night!" |
| 22:15:06 | <eggdrop> | [remind] ok, i'll remind fireonlive |
| 22:16:02 | <that_lurker> | https://lounge.kuhaon.fun/folder/173882d712d4bdd8/GO%20TO%20BED.mp4 |
| 22:17:03 | <fireonlive> | :3 |
| 22:17:19 | <fireonlive> | that_lurker: ;) |
| 22:21:17 | <pabs> | https://www.theregister.com/2024/01/19/hps_ceo_spells_it_out/ |
| 22:22:40 | <fireonlive> | "We are investing in that customer" -_- |
| 22:24:53 | <imer> | wasn't that obvious with cheapo printers costing as much as a few ink refills? |
| 22:25:01 | <nicolas17> | https://www.theregister.com/2019/10/09/hp_supplies/ |
| 22:25:04 | <nicolas17> | this seems reasonable? |
| 22:25:40 | <imer> | I'd rather they just sell the hardware at cost instead of doing all the ink bs, yeah |
| 22:26:49 | <nicolas17> | though it would be ridiculous if the printer got more expensive, users got the "choice" of using third-party ink, but first-party ink was still expensive af because it's still trying to make up for the below-cost printer price |
| 22:27:54 | <@JAA> | 'Cheap printer, expensive ink' is outdated. They're pushing for ink subscriptions instead. |
| 22:31:24 | <fireonlive> | obviously, we should archive this: https://twitter.com/breaking_frames |
| 22:31:24 | <eggdrop> | nitter: https://farside.link/nitter/breaking_frames |
| 22:32:01 | <imer> | but why |
| 22:32:16 | <fireonlive> | haha ikr |
| 22:32:44 | <fireonlive> | apparently all of Breaking Bad & El Camino have been done before on that account too |
| 22:32:49 | <that_lurker> | HP: If you print more than one page a week you need our Bussiness plan if not your ink cardrige will not work anymore |
| 22:32:58 | <that_lurker> | or ads will be printed on your pages |
| 22:33:07 | <nicolas17> | I had an EPSON |
| 22:33:24 | <nicolas17> | nowadays I use a pay-per-page system |
| 22:33:32 | <fireonlive> | brother laser printers used to be the goat; then they added DRM chips to the toners too |
| 22:33:36 | <nicolas17> | (if I need to print something I walk to the print shop) |
| 22:34:09 | <fireonlive> | :o |
| 22:34:30 | | fireonlive prints at work |
| 22:34:37 | <that_lurker> | :O |
| 22:34:48 | <fireonlive> | >:3 |
| 22:37:13 | | jasons (jasons) joins |
| 22:37:20 | <fireonlive> | Windows to get COLEMAK support: https://bsky.app/profile/jenmsft.bsky.social/post/3kjw2zve7g22j |
| 22:38:17 | <fireonlive> | well; the stable channel will eventually. it's in canary now |
| 22:38:23 | <@JAA> | Brother used to be the usual recommendation in any online discussion about this bullshit. That sucks to hear. :-( |
| 22:38:42 | <fireonlive> | yeah :( |
| 22:38:48 | <@JAA> | Personally, I print a couple pages per year, so I don't even have a printer. |
| 22:39:18 | <nicolas17> | last time I bought ink, the epson original cartridges cost 5x (!) compared to the fake brand ones |
| 22:39:19 | <fireonlive> | i got rid of my home printer; but i have visitors now and then who wish to print things now and then so.... i might end up with one again on the network lol |
| 22:39:28 | <nicolas17> | so I got the fake brand ones |
| 22:39:35 | <fireonlive> | laser printer only though; inkjet is bad |
| 22:39:36 | <nicolas17> | and the printer then didn't work right |
| 22:39:41 | <fireonlive> | oh fun |
| 22:39:59 | <nicolas17> | and that's the last time I used the printer |
| 22:40:22 | <@JAA> | The ink tank models seem kind of interesting. |
| 22:40:27 | <fireonlive> | they have tank ink printers now where you just dump ink in a tank.. no drm involved |
| 22:40:33 | | fireonlive eyes JAA |
| 22:40:34 | <nicolas17> | I removed the raspberry pi network print server |
| 22:40:40 | <@JAA> | Get ninja'd! |
| 22:40:43 | <fireonlive> | :P |
| 22:40:48 | <fireonlive> | though i do like the monochrome lasers :3 |
| 22:40:55 | <fireonlive> | no clogging, no drying up, etc |
| 22:41:01 | <fireonlive> | no 'ink purging' |
| 22:41:03 | <@JAA> | Yeah, ink is better for photos and stuff. |
| 22:41:10 | <fireonlive> | true yeah |
| 22:42:15 | <fireonlive> | need a colour plotter printer to print out some 'wall art' |
| 22:42:17 | <fireonlive> | :3 |
| 22:42:30 | <project10> | π |
| 22:42:34 | <fireonlive> | ;) |
| 22:42:58 | <nicolas17> | https://shipadick.com/ |
| 22:43:31 | <fireonlive> | noice |
| 22:43:43 | <fireonlive> | i tried to send a chocolate dick to someone once... but uh it was summer and it melted |
| 22:43:46 | <fireonlive> | :| |
| 22:43:58 | <project10> | sad to hear brother isn't an option anymore. I have a 15-year old brother laser, is a tank. |
| 22:44:34 | <fireonlive> | ye i guess have to snag a model made before they went to the bad side |
| 22:44:52 | <fireonlive> | where's my GNU/LaserJet? |
| 22:45:03 | <fireonlive> | RMS deliver me a printer |
| 22:45:17 | <project10> | > Please note, we let our dicks rest on the weekends. |
| 22:45:26 | <that_lurker> | framework might make a printer which would be nice |
| 22:45:26 | <nicolas17> | it's a bit annoying that it costs 15 USD for a piece of cardboard tbh |
| 22:45:42 | | decky_e_ joins |
| 22:46:19 | <@JAA> | Hmm... https://shipabagofdicks.com/collections/all/products/the-spring-loaded-dick-bomb-prank |
| 22:47:04 | <@JAA> | lol: https://shipabagofdicks.com/collections/all/products/rainbow-dick-candle |
| 22:47:13 | <fireonlive> | oh lord dick confetti |
| 22:47:33 | <fireonlive> | ..i'd probably actually buy the candle, at least once |
| 22:47:40 | <@JAA> | https://shipabagofdicks.com/collections/all/products/the-valentines-day-dick |
| 22:47:50 | <that_lurker> | https://www.etsy.com/fi-en/listing/1537148514/giant-penis-body-pillow-plush-sex |
| 22:47:52 | <@JAA> | Neat shop. |
| 22:48:03 | <fireonlive> | ah it was like that! but different box :3 |
| 22:48:17 | <project10> | a little outside consumer space/pricing, but I've also a Xerox WorkCentre 3325, they don't have the same DRM shenanigans in the office/enterprise space |
| 22:48:34 | <fireonlive> | that_lurker: framework printer? rly :o |
| 22:49:25 | <that_lurker> | Well there are no current plans for that, but there is a LOT of interest for one |
| 22:49:29 | <fireonlive> | ah :3 |
| 22:49:32 | <fireonlive> | project10: nice |
| 22:50:29 | <project10> | duplex printing is fancy :) |
| 22:50:35 | <fireonlive> | :d |
| 22:50:38 | <fireonlive> | so many moving parts |
| 22:51:26 | <@JAA> | I recently saw a tiny Canon (I think?) printer that had duplex printing. |
| 22:51:33 | <@JAA> | Like consumer compact printer thingy. |
| 22:51:36 | <@JAA> | I had no idea that existed. |
| 22:52:15 | <nicolas17> | huh |
| 22:52:23 | <fireonlive> | hmm |
| 22:52:28 | <nicolas17> | shipabagofdicks says it supports paypal but I can't find how to actually use paypal |
| 22:52:55 | <nulldata> | I've had nothing but issues with Xerox printers and copiers |
| 22:53:13 | <@JAA> | It wasn't this model but: https://www.usa.canon.com/shop/p/pixma-ts9520 |
| 22:53:44 | <fireonlive> | here i found out in a week or so nicolas17 had my address the whole time |
| 22:54:05 | <@JAA> | Did you not use 7 proxies? |
| 22:54:22 | <fireonlive> | only 6 uwu |
| 22:54:38 | <@JAA> | Rookie mistake |
| 22:54:40 | <fireonlive> | hmm that is quite compact for duplex |
| 22:54:44 | <fireonlive> | indeedy |
| 22:54:46 | <fireonlive> | :c |
| 22:55:28 | <@JAA> | lol, I just got the default nginx page on archive.ph. |
| 22:56:30 | <fireonlive> | lol |
| 22:56:34 | <fireonlive> | seems ok here |
| 22:56:53 | <@JAA> | Not loading at all here now. |
| 22:57:03 | <@JAA> | It was on plain HTTP, too. |
| 22:58:40 | <@JAA> | The one I saw was even a bit smaller, I think. Less than A4 horizontally. |
| 22:58:57 | <qwertyasdfuiopghjkl> | It's currently loading fine for me, but the "default page for a short time then not loading at all" thing happened to me a while ago too |
| 23:00:04 | <@JAA> | Maybe I just happen to hit a particular server that's currently being rebooted or similar. |
| 23:04:38 | <fireonlive> | "Save Page Now browser crashed on https://archive.ph/." |
| 23:04:39 | <fireonlive> | lol |
| 23:11:20 | <nicolas17> | bag of dicks ordered, now I'll be anxious until it arrives |
| 23:12:19 | <nicolas17> | anxiously waiting for the "who the fuck ordered me this" reaction |
| 23:12:34 | <fireonlive> | :D |
| 23:12:39 | <fireonlive> | can't wait to hear about it |
| 23:23:24 | <@JAA> | TIL UTF-1. 66 protected characters and mod 190 arithmetic for the rest. This sounds even worse than Punycode. |
| 23:25:36 | <@JAA> | And I got there via UTF-5, which was a competitor of Punycode. Simply base32 encoding, it seems. 2^5 = 32 of course. |
| 23:26:29 | <@JAA> | And UTF-6, which was UTF-5 plus a running length encoding, so obviously + 1. lol |
| 23:30:51 | <imer> | "was" good lol |
| 23:32:51 | <fireonlive> | UTF-65535 pls |
| 23:33:33 | <@JAA> | https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc4042 :-) |
| 23:36:44 | <@JAA> | So I looked a bit at Loki docs. Promtail appears to be the thing to send logs to it. It does 'retry then discard'. :-( |
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| 23:38:03 | <@JAA> | It's configurable to an extent, but not sure how hard it'd be to make it cache locally in case of network problems etc. |
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| 23:46:21 | <fireonlive> | aw :( |
| 23:46:36 | <fireonlive> | "you didn't want those logs anyway, right?" |
| 23:48:03 | <@JAA> | Terbium: If you have any insight into this, I'd love to hear it. :-) |
| 23:48:49 | <@JAA> | My eventual goal would be a central location for all of my logs, including from devices that aren't constantly online (shipped when they are, obviously). |
| 23:49:22 | <fireonlive> | https://www.theregister.com/2024/01/26/20000_tech_layoffs/ |
| 23:49:24 | <@JAA> | Maybe I'm just misreading things. :-) |
| 23:49:26 | <fireonlive> | π₯Ύπ₯Ύπ₯Ύπ₯Ύπ₯Ύπ₯Ύπ₯Ύπ₯Ύπ₯Ύ |
| 23:49:32 | <fireonlive> | :c |
| 23:50:55 | <@JAA> | This is where I found it: https://grafana.com/docs/loki/latest/send-data/promtail/troubleshooting/#loki-is-unavailable |