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01:12:56<thuban>love the repeated references to "james scott"
01:13:35<fireonlive>lol yes
02:15:00<fireonlive>+rss- iMessage Key Verification: https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT213465 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38714674
02:15:02<fireonlive>hmmmm
02:23:08<nicolas17>I'm still curious why that took them so long and why the transparencyd daemon has been *shipping and running* for years in previous OS versions
02:23:41<nicolas17>what was it even *doing*, if the feature is only officially added now, and it needs all your devices to be updated in order to use it
02:24:11<nicolas17>JAA: reproducible builds strike again
02:24:52<nicolas17>I didn't pin Python dep versions and I can't build my blog :D
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02:25:46<@JAA>lol
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02:34:14<fireonlive>i've done that before lol
02:42:39<fireonlive>PM me for a an unusual sexual image
02:43:22<nicolas17>I refuse
02:44:20<fireonlive>*new message from nicolas17*
02:47:50<project10>🐄
02:49:27<fireonlive>:d
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03:16:32<fireonlive>surprised how many matrix clients we have hanging out in our channels
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03:33:59<@OrIdow6>Yeah it sure has grown
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03:58:25<nulldata>I had to contact Amazon support tonight - first time in a few years. When did it get so fucking horrible?
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04:42:11<nukke>🔫 always has been
04:52:39<nicolas17>I switched from "pip install nikola" and hoping for the best, to pipenv with pinned package versions
04:54:00<nicolas17>then I un-pinned most of them and things still work
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05:46:44<fireonlive>http://cs.gettysburg.edu/~duncjo01/archive/icons/OEM/windows/
05:46:47<fireonlive>nostalgia :3
05:49:58<fireonlive>(~duncjo01/ being thrown in AB atm)
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06:35:52<immibis>every company has horrible support
06:44:54<fireonlive>good? news: twitter is back
06:45:04<fireonlive>about 1h10m it was down
06:45:23<magmaus3>sounds like forever
06:45:34<immibis>That's bad news
06:45:41<magmaus3>yeah
06:58:54<fireonlive>https://twitter.com/SwiftOnSecurity/status/1737497497247822105
06:58:55<eggdrop>nitter: https://nitter.net/SwiftOnSecurity/status/1737497497247822105
06:58:57<fireonlive>:'(
07:01:10<nulldata>Poor Tay
07:05:33<@JAA>Can confirm that a puppy helps with that.
07:05:51<fireonlive>human or animal?
07:06:09<fireonlive>s/animal/canine/
07:06:52@JAA doesn't judge.
07:07:02<fireonlive>:)
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10:35:22<that_lurker>https://infosec.exchange/@Lee_Holmes/111614051361443276
10:39:13<fireonlive>i think insomnia is doing the same thing now?
10:39:30<fireonlive>but oof
10:40:04<that_lurker>sadge
10:40:15<thuban>according to the comments in that thread insomnia walked it back
10:40:44<fireonlive>ooh
10:47:24<that_lurker>and most likely so will postman
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11:28:44<katia>https://github.com/usebruno/bruno
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13:30:44<TheTechRobo>Four days til Christmas and there is barely any snow in sight. Wtf
13:54:07<joepie91|m>haven't had consistent snow at christmas here for manyyears
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14:12:17<nukke>at least in the US it's because of El Niño
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18:41:40<nulldata>In the Midwest it's been snowy on Halloween and nothing on Christmas the past few years lol
18:49:58<nukke>same :( except last year. we broke records here in Minnesoter
18:50:16<nukke>snowiest December day in Minnesota history
19:27:19<project10>https://twitter.com/theTimChamp/status/1736394921865810393
19:27:19<eggdrop>nitter: https://nitter.net/theTimChamp/status/1736394921865810393
19:38:30<nulldata>https://archive.is/GODfa
19:40:28<project10>yeah, site's already dead :(
19:48:32<nulldata>archive.is? It's not dead - are you using Cloudflare DNS?
19:56:03<fireonlive>https://www.hyperloop-one.com/
20:00:18<nulldata>Oh
20:00:20<project10>sorry, wasn't clear - did mean hyperloop-one.com
20:03:47<nulldata>The YT channel is gone too https://www.youtube.com/c/VirginHyperloop
20:03:50<nukke>Is that the Elon one?
20:04:13<project10>nah, the Richard Branson/Virgin one
20:04:52<nukke>The other looney space billionaire, gotcha
20:06:53<project10>Elon's tunneling company is https://www.boringcompany.com/
20:08:42<nukke>Wasn't his Vegas Tesla tunnel called a hyper loop tho?
20:09:24<nukke>Hmm apparently it's just the Vegas Loop
20:12:01<nulldata>Twitter is gone too https://twitter.com/HyperloopOne
20:12:01<eggdrop>nitter: https://nitter.net/HyperloopOne
20:13:46<nulldata>nukke - there were multiple companies and projects calling themselves 'Hyperloop' after Musk released his 'whitepaper'.
20:53:12<nicolas17>ugh I want to move my support.apple.com monitoring to something more automated, but it's 500MB of HTML
20:53:32<nicolas17>and I really don't want something constantly using 500MB of my poor smol VPS
20:59:08<fireonlive>friendly reminder that nothing is stopping you from screaming at the top of your lungs for as long as you can, right now
20:59:23<Barto>ahhhhhh!
21:01:00<fireonlive>:D
21:33:13<fireonlive>in 37c3-offtopic someone is promoting "SimpleX" ... anyone hear of this before? https://matrix.hackint.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/tchncs.de/56375d1f1093bc1f55f86b9504be0d25212cf8de/SimpleX_Shoes5.1.jpg
21:33:36<fireonlive>"Private. Secure. A Messenger Like No Other." o_O
21:34:35<nukke>yeah I've seen it get posted often on reddit, usually /r/privacy and /r/privacytools
21:35:08<nukke>err, privacy giudes*
21:35:39<nukke>https://www.privacyguides.org/en/real-time-communication/
21:35:58<nukke>I've personally never used it, but unlike signal, you don't need a phone number
21:36:08<nukke>and of course it doesn't use google play services
21:36:44<fireonlive>ahh interesting
21:37:43<fireonlive>I remember trying one a long time ago that was 100% P2P on tor
21:37:59<fireonlive>your onion addr was your uid i think lol
21:39:06<nukke>there used to be more interesting chat projects back then
21:39:17<nukke>my first code contribution ever was to Tox
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21:40:32<fireonlive>ah cool=]
21:40:41<fireonlive>i guess theyve kinda died off sadly
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21:40:53<fireonlive>the network effect is real :/
21:41:26<thuban>i still use tox! decent little p2p voice chat
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21:43:43<fireonlive>ill see if my friend remembers the name of that tor one
21:43:53<fireonlive>curious what happened to it lol
21:49:50<@JAA>Briar has always seemed interesting to me.
21:50:26<@JAA>That does P2P and even local mesh networking.
21:59:24<nukke>Tox died off imo due to a toxic contributor community
22:00:19<nukke>it's funny, I was just talking to a friend about mpv (the open source video player), and how abusive some of the main devs/maintaners were
22:00:47<@JAA>I've heard of that before. :-(
22:00:55<fireonlive> ironic(?) that tox was toxic
22:00:59<fireonlive>but :(
22:01:09<fireonlive>i heard plex got heavily involved in mpv?
22:01:16<nukke>it did start off as a 4chan project :P
22:01:19<fireonlive>or hired the maintainer?
22:01:40<fireonlive>i guess when you want to play your esoteric 420-bit HD hentai...
22:01:42<nukke>probably yeah. can't remember if it was mpv or ffmpeg dev that they hired
22:01:46<fireonlive>makes sense it came from there
22:01:48<fireonlive>:p
22:01:57<nukke>but mpv's problem was wm4. there are some epic irc and git rants of his
22:02:36<nukke>top result when searching for "wm4 rant" lol https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/commit/1e70e82baa9193f6f027338b0fab0f5078971fbe
22:02:42<nukke>nsfw/language warning
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22:03:02<@JAA>Oh yes, I remember that.
22:03:34<@JAA>wm4 eventually got kicked out, right?
22:04:09<nukke>yep! not sure what they're doing nowadays
22:04:33<nukke>wm4 was smart but unfortunately it wans't enough to offset his incredible toxicity
22:08:22<fireonlive>that last paragraph
22:09:22<fireonlive>and yeah i've seen a few people like that
22:09:44<nukke>speaking of similar toxic communities full of smart people, there was also the plan9/9p/inferno community which was very edgy but full of insanely smart folks
22:10:40<nukke>they had the best mascot in all of FOSS tho http://glenda.cat-v.org/
22:11:08<fireonlive>just realized: the commit message is much longer than the actual commit
22:11:19<fireonlive>cute :3
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22:34:23<fireonlive>https://nitter.net/ianbfarquhar/status/1737946084289483035
22:34:26<fireonlive>brb, screaming
22:38:13<@JAA>lol
22:41:51<nukke>NO!
22:49:55<fireonlive>https://nitter.net/trash196053474/status/1737965609399263320#m
22:49:57<fireonlive>o_o
22:50:02<fireonlive>good guys?
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23:39:19<nulldata>https://www.neowin.net/news/playstation-store-users-wont-lose-their-discovery-tv-shows-they-bought-at-least-for-now/
23:39:49<nulldata>How generous of them.

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