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01:32:17<@JAA>TIL the Argentinian government has their own Linux distro: https://distro.misiones.gob.ar/
01:33:36<@JAA>And it's not in DistroWatch!
01:35:33<nicolas17>pabs: https://www.theverge.com/2023/12/9/23995150/beeper-imessage-android-apple-statement
01:55:06<pabs>yeah, using hacked credentials was never going to work
01:55:55<nicolas17>I wouldn't call it "hacked credentials"
01:56:30<nicolas17>also https://nondeterministic.computer/@mjg59/111547718202504527
02:02:07<pabs>hmm, it sounded like that. I'll re-read
02:03:49<pabs>from that thread it sounds like the registration server didn't require Apple hardware attestation
02:04:41<nicolas17>iMessage works on hackintosh so yes
02:05:09<pabs>I see
02:05:49<pabs>surprising they didn't require that, iMessage is one of their big moats
02:06:15<pabs>does it still work now or did they break it with the Beeper changes?
02:07:20<pabs>not sure needing social engineering counts as "working" though :)
02:07:30<pabs>https://social.treehouse.systems/@nicolas17/111548038247578951
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02:08:10pabs wonders when Apple will add RCS
02:09:22<that_lurker>pabs https://9to5mac.com/2023/11/16/apple-rcs-coming-to-iphone/
02:17:35<pabs>most of RCS sounds like stuff that I don't want in a chat protocol though :(
02:22:43<that_lurker>What don't you want your text messages to go through Googles servers
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03:29:23<pabs>fuck no :) also all those "modern" features are quite the privacy violation
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03:43:10<@JAA>> The password must contain at least 10 characters. The password may contain at most 50 characters. The password must contain at least one uppercase and one lowercase letter. The password must contain at least one digit or punctuation mark. The password must not contain spaces or Unicode characters.
03:44:16<TheTechRobo>Wonder if they support null bytes. :P
03:46:55<@JAA>Still part of Unicode :-P
03:47:01<@JAA>If they're being silly, I can be, too.
03:52:24<pabs>that_lurker: one thing that surprised me about RCS: the UI changes involved lead some people to turn it off (returning to unencrypted SMS), because they don't want their messages highlighted in blue
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19:01:08<fireonlive>🤦🏻‍♂️
19:01:28<fireonlive>hello to another fucking day on this hell planet
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19:22:17<kpcyrd>you don't sound very hakuna matata
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20:21:20<fireonlive>uwu
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20:49:51<Doranwen>Any ideas on what I need to tweak (in the regex, lol) to make this script sort out the images downloaded with ao3downloader? https://pastebin.com/iCWzFK9J I had help awhile back getting it to sort images that were in smallish fandoms (with a one-folder depth level of sorting) using this script: https://pastebin.com/ZLVxWQ7t However, my attempts at merging the two are not working out, lol.
20:50:50<Doranwen>The trouble here is that the images are in a fandom large enough that I need a two-folder level depth (one folder for the letter of the alphabet, another for the actual author/creator) and so I have to integrate the logic of identifying the letter in addition to the author name.
20:53:32<Doranwen>The only sure way to identify author is that it comes after the *last* ` by ` in the filename.
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21:21:38<Doranwen>My last attempt came up with https://pastebin.com/eLtKD7tU but I'm doing something wrong because the file I tested it with doesn't move anywhere.
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21:55:11<thuban>Doranwen: your regex is mangled; you have ""* by ${author}\(\|.\).*" but need ".* by ${author}\( \|\.\).*"
21:55:30<thuban>s/""/"/
21:56:21<nicolas17>https://www.reddit.com/r/Unity3D/comments/1840ow9/if_anyone_violates_the_rules_by_posting_a_phone/
22:04:13<Doranwen>Ahhh, thank you!
22:04:49<Doranwen>Missed spotting that dot when I compared things.
22:05:07<Doranwen>And the extra space.
22:05:12<thuban>and the backslash
22:05:52<Doranwen>Well, I actually copied and pasted the last bit of it in from the expression above it.
22:06:11<Doranwen>So it's apparently not the same.
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22:06:56<Doranwen>OK, I think I got all three fixed, testing it on the file I've been trying…
22:07:31<thuban>it's missing the space and backslash in both places
22:07:37<thuban>but also, why the inner loop?
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22:08:23<thuban>or rather outer loop
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22:09:42<thuban>it's not necessary, you should get what you want just by replacing `-name` with the corresponding `regex` in https://pastebin.com/iCWzFK9J
22:10:46Doranwen has to sheepishly confess that she doesn't understand.
22:11:19<thuban>could you be more specific?
22:14:56<Doranwen>I don't understand almost anything of what you're saying. I know what a loop is - I'm pretty sure - but it's been a while since I looked at these and my knowledge of Bash is fairly shaky, so I can't identify which part of the script you're referring to by that. I do know what you mean by `-name` but "corresponding `regex`", not sure what that would be. This is all at the very limits of my ability to understand what is going on. I'm
22:14:58<Doranwen>trying, but it's hard for me to remember how I constructed these in the first place - with copious use of copying bits of examples and help from others - so.
22:15:11<thuban>ah, ok.
22:18:49<Doranwen>I can sort of follow what it's doing at each point - but I wouldn't be able to recreate it if it was removed.
22:19:30<Doranwen>I *think* I can summarize what each line is doing roughly.
22:19:37<Doranwen>That's about where my understanding is.
22:25:33<thuban>in your last attempt (eLtKD7tU), line 7 generates a list of filenames matching a pattern; lines 7-25 are a 'while' loop over those filenames (everything is done once for each filenames).
22:25:49<thuban>*filename
22:25:54<thuban>line 18 generates a list of filenames matching (what was intended to be) the same pattern; lines 18-24 are a 'while' loop over those filenames (ditto).
22:26:06<thuban>but they're (intended to be) the same list of filenames! the inner loop is repeated once for each outer loop, so instead of working with file 1, file 2, ..., file N, you're working with file 1/file 1, file 1/file 2, ..., file 1/file N, file 2/file 1, file 2/file 2, ..., file 2/file N, ..., file N/file N. this is obviously not what you want
22:30:09<thuban>https://pastebin.com/iCWzFK9J has the structure that you want; for each author, it generates the letter to file under and then goes through all the files it finds for that author
22:32:19<Doranwen>Ahh, so you mean take the iCWzFK9J script, change `-name` to `regex` on line 17, and tweak the `"* by ${author}.*"` to `".* by ${author}\( \|\.\).*"`?
22:32:20<thuban>so you can simply replace `-name "* by ${author}.*"` with `-regex ".* by ${author}\( \|\.\).*"`, just as you did with your one-level sorting script (https://web.archive.org/web/20231025053006/https://pastebin.com/NhTDfmaP)
22:32:33<thuban>haha, yep
22:32:41<Doranwen>Lol yay, at least I followed that.
22:34:01<thuban>(but note leading hyphen on `-regex` as well)
22:34:41<Doranwen>Gotcha.
22:34:55<Doranwen>Yeah, I have that in the script, just forgot to type it here.
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22:40:14<Doranwen>Thanks for the help! I appreciate having somewhere I can ask - the two friends I know online with *some* tech skills are mostly in other areas, and most of my friends are just like "you run scripts????" like it's this lofty thing well beyond the knowledge of mere mortals, lol.
22:40:20Doranwen remembers how that felt, haha.
22:41:02<Doranwen>The Yahoo Groups project really did a jumpstart of my skills with you all helping with various things.
22:41:37<thuban>you're welcome. owning a computer and not knowing how to program it even a little is like owning a house and not being able to move the furniture
22:41:41<Doranwen>And this is even archiving-related - sort of - as it's our personal archives that I'm using these scripts to sort.
22:42:05<Doranwen>Yeah, it's taken me a while to learn this, and I would never have learned what I had had I stayed on Windows. Moving to Linux was one of the best things I ever did.
22:43:02<thuban>(i think i've said that to you already. sorry, i am both predictable and forgetful)
22:43:06<Doranwen>Some things are just easier to do in the command line, and there's a lot of things you can't do anywhere else, and the process of learning those bit by bit… I now regularly use commands to convert Windows txt files to Linux ones (the line endings), compare txt files, and navigate the file system.
22:43:20<Doranwen>Oh, I don't remember if you did or not. It's still very true.
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