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00:21:20<fireonlive>on apollo not returning: https://x.com/christianselig/status/1722719251276890293?s=12 https://old.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/17rmqys/yo_apollo_dev_here_had_lots_of_questions_lately/
00:21:21<eggdrop>nitter: https://nitter.net/christianselig/status/1722719251276890293
00:40:39<nukke>>We all miss you dearly Christian! I will support any of your future endeavors.
00:40:43<nukke>>what if i started selling nfts
00:40:56<nukke>What a beautiful reply lol
00:42:28<@JAA>> bored apeollos
00:42:33<@JAA>Do I get a free UVC light with those?
00:43:22<katia>definitely not
00:43:28<katia>$500 per ticket min
00:43:50<nukke>It's an investment
00:47:15<@JAA>Ah yes, I forgor.
00:48:29<nicolas17>nukke: https://twitter.com/ChristianSelig/status/1722727702711370150
00:48:29<eggdrop>nitter: https://nitter.net/ChristianSelig/status/1722727702711370150
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00:54:23<nukke>🤌🤌
00:59:04<immibis>fireonlive: my own archiving system, not #down-the-turbe
00:59:27<immibis>tube, even
01:08:06<Pedrosso>?
01:08:34<thuban>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAsFWPNtMMU
01:16:11<fireonlive>ah :p
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02:31:00<nicolas17>"we still haven't found anyone who got an M3 Mac, is willing to get us a disk image, and hasn't updated it yet" "that's because no informed buyer would get an M3 mac" ooof
02:34:56<nukke>I still can believe there are people that paid $1000+ USD for a Mac with *8GB* of RAM in 2023
02:51:35<@JAA>Most sensible Apple users ;-)
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03:00:58<fireonlive>https://dl.fireon.live/irc/3d78eaa000801e2e/Screenshot%202023-11-09%20at%208.00.43%E2%80%AFPM.png
03:01:00<fireonlive>phew
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03:17:45<nukke>How much was that? $2000?
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03:27:28<fireonlive>hmm
03:29:06<fireonlive>(checking)
03:33:07<fireonlive>wow that was a pain
03:33:41<fireonlive>without applecare and pre-tax: CA$1,394.00
03:36:37<fireonlive>thanks to a historical currency converter, that was US$1,098.66
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03:42:49<fireonlive>(always get applecare, though)
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05:50:00<fireonlive>https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/technology/cloudflare-website-downed-by-ddos-attack-claimed-by-anonymous-sudan/
05:50:02<fireonlive>so uhhh
05:50:12<fireonlive>why was cloudflare returning /that/ error page?
05:50:34<fireonlive>https://www.bleepstatic.com/images/news/u/1109292/2023/Cloudflare%20website%20outage.png
05:53:08<@JAA>lol
05:56:32<that_lurker>lul how is that not questioned in the article or the comment section
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06:14:46<fireonlive>i come to you, JAA, in a time of 'there's another god damned font on the front-fucking-page of hacker news': Monaspace https://monaspace.githubnext.com/ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38210574
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06:20:18<@JAA>INnoVaTiVe SuPeRfAmIly
06:20:40<fireonlive>😂
06:22:32<@JAA>Also, WTF is githubnext.com?
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06:32:09<fireonlive>ugh, right? they already own github.com...
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10:16:16<Hans5958><JAA> "Also, WTF is githubnext.com?" <- For cutting edge projects of them
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14:46:06<nulldata>Regarding Cloudflare and the Google page - theory on twitter is Cloudflare is using GCP for the main site
14:46:54<nulldata>https://www-heise-de.translate.goog/news/Microsoft-krallt-sich-Zugangsdaten-Achtung-vorm-neuen-Outlook-9357691.html?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de
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15:00:31<nukke>https://www.theverge.com/23955295/a24-elon-musk-biopic-darren-aronofsky-biography
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15:33:42<nulldata>https://twitter.com/JeremySelan/status/1722733342985252924
15:33:42<eggdrop>nitter: https://nitter.net/JeremySelan/status/1722733342985252924
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16:07:07<fireonlive>https://nitter.net/SwiftOnSecurity/status/1723007122378457292 :O
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16:35:00<guest>what if there was an extension to view deleted tweets taken from the wayback machine's archive of twitter, x, nitter, etc links
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16:42:04<fireonlive>what if indeed
16:42:21<fireonlive>what if i was happy
16:42:27<fireonlive>what if indeed
16:42:38katia puts a kitty on fireonlive's lap
16:42:50<fireonlive>:3
16:54:09<@JAA>I just looked a bit through the submissions for the Minnesota flag: https://serc.mnhs.org/flags I'm confused. Considering these things made it through the screening process, if there was any:
16:54:13<@JAA>https://21588026.fs1.hubspotusercontent-na1.net/hubfs/21588026/Imported%20images/c8ada8869a1f142e5fd27cb1fbaa73d8112afc3d6a2860318ce74044a2c65cff.jpg
16:54:16<@JAA>https://21588026.fs1.hubspotusercontent-na1.net/hubfs/21588026/211857a4d774da6d2d9729f681840e2462631c3e42f8531f7e2b2b047aeb9180.jpg
16:54:19<@JAA>https://21588026.fs1.hubspotusercontent-na1.net/hubfs/21588026/Imported%20images/098e32d3b7435c6ce4579fd623bb6983e6d053d21e2874d7acf3488c4f5b6e8b.jpg
16:54:22<@JAA>... where are the dick pics?
16:56:29<@JAA>Or even just flags with elements resembling genitals.
16:56:35<@JAA>Or was this not an online submission thing?
16:58:16<thuban>i don't think it's a priori unreasonable to screen out images that are 'obscene' but not merely 'wildly incorrect'
17:00:29<@JAA>Yeah, but you'd think there'd be at least some entries that are less obvious among over 2k passing submissions.
17:02:04<fireonlive>i agree with JAA, i demand dick pics
17:03:49<thuban>2000 isn't _that_ many. i bet a type-a intern could detect all the dicks
17:04:38<thuban>https://21588026.fs1.hubspotusercontent-na1.net/hubfs/21588026/Imported%20images/1aa4cf3abfd084eb309a60c144b133960f59caae8e348018c93a7b83dc48c170.jpeg
17:10:12<fireonlive>hotdog or not hotdog
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17:15:24<katia>lol
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17:38:24<nulldata>Is it too late for a non-Minnesota resident to submit an entry? https://transfer.archivete.am/inline/gJDru/Minnesota-Entry.png
17:39:21<@JAA>lol
17:40:30<@JAA>I wonder if that would be caught. lol
17:40:49<@JAA>Strongly depends on the age of the intern, I think.
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18:01:08<that_lurker>That would be an amazing logo for a team named Minnesota goats
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18:11:56<fireonlive>lmao
18:21:24<fireonlive>https://twitter.com/robots.txt < ah so that's why link previews broke in some places
18:21:24<eggdrop>nitter: https://nitter.net/robots.txt
18:21:30<fireonlive>eggdrop: thanks you tried
18:21:55<fireonlive>also nice disallow of * later on, followed by more rules :p
18:23:17<@JAA>> See ONBOARD-2698 for details.
18:23:22<@JAA>Make youre JIRA public, I dare you.
18:26:58<that_lurker>Makin it public would totally boost ticket resolve rate
18:29:35<fireonlive><@JAA> Make youre JIRA public, I dare you. < i would love a leaked copy of that so much
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18:47:24<fireonlive>Moving our Encrypted DNS servers to run in RAM https://mullvad.net/en/blog/moving-our-encrypted-dns-servers-to-run-in-ram https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38217355
18:47:29<fireonlive>running everything in ram, so hot right now
18:47:43<@JAA>... again?
18:48:10<@JAA>Oh, another service, so of course that requires more PR.
18:48:22<fireonlive>indeed lol
18:48:32<fireonlive>also TIL anyone can just use their DNS resolvers
18:49:21<@JAA>Running from RAM is nice for a service like that. Guarantees that nobody can yank the servers from the rack and get the users' data.
18:49:32<fireonlive>unless they have a hotplug â„¢
18:49:49<fireonlive>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erq4TO_a3z8
18:50:00<fireonlive>this took me like, half hour to find one day
18:50:21<fireonlive>from vague memory to cursing google's existence
18:50:34<@JAA>Yeah. Perhaps you can detect that via ACPI and wipe the data in that event. Although that might interfere with regular operation during partial power outages, maintenance, etc.
18:50:42<fireonlive>(advanced demo) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-G8sEYCOv-o
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18:50:48<fireonlive>hmm
18:51:03<fireonlive>i wonder if you could attach like gyro sensors like you have in smartphones
18:51:15<fireonlive>and if server tilt etc changes just zip the ram and shut down
18:52:01<fireonlive>last video 12 years ago :D
18:52:41<fireonlive>they seem to still exist though and have stuff with USB-C tho: https://wiebetech.com
18:56:33<@JAA>This is actually interesting. It wouldn't work today, at least over here.
18:56:49<@JAA>Well, the plug capture device thingy wouldn't.
18:57:53<@JAA>Some years ago, the plugs were redesigned such that the connection is broken before the contacts become visible. That's to prevent accidents from kids sticking metal objects between a slightly pulled-out plug and the socket.
18:58:39<@JAA>So you'd need something far more sophisticated which inserts the capture contacts into the socket etc.
19:00:03<@JAA>Or open up the live socket and connect the wires directly, or something similarly dangerous.
19:00:30<fireonlive>mm, they do that in the advanced demo just take the socket out of the wall
19:01:07<@JAA>It'd be a shame if it were a modified socket that has a live wire to the screws. :-P
19:01:10<fireonlive>xP
19:01:43<fireonlive>canada/US are quite behind in their socket design sadly. i do like the UK/others 'earth first' and sheathed live/neutral
19:02:49<fireonlive>i guess TR outlets are a thing here now at least? https://dl.fireon.live/irc/976924efedc8343b/image.png
19:03:17<fireonlive>since there's no guarantee of an earth pin i believe it's something like both sides need pressure for the plastic to vanish
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19:09:28<Pedrosso>look at that wonderful ArchiveBot go
19:10:04<@JAA>Ah, yes, those exist here as well.
19:10:16<@JAA>The German plug design is quite neat except for its clunkiness.
19:11:38<@JAA>That capture device thing would never have worked there. Or at least not for decades, I believe. The socket goes deep, and the live and neutral contacts are never exposed.
19:12:33<@JAA>The Swiss design also has earth first, by the way. Not by the plug though, but by how it's built inside the socket.
19:13:32<@JAA>The prongs on the plug are the same length, but inside the socket, the contacts for live/neutral are deeper, so earth always connects first.
19:13:41<fireonlive>ahh, that's nice
19:13:51<@JAA>https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:SEV_1011_2009_Typ_12_L%2BN%2BPE_Stecker.jpg?&useskin=vector
19:14:13<fireonlive>and the extra sheathing too
19:17:56<@JAA>We used to have these boys: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Schweiz_Steckdose_Typ_1.png?&useskin=vector
19:18:00<@JAA>Fortunately, they're banned.
19:18:46<@JAA>There was no sheathing at that time either.
19:18:51<@JAA>Electrocution builds character.
19:19:53<@JAA>The corresponding plug: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:SEV_1011_2009_Typ_1_L%2BN_Stecker.jpg?&useskin=vector
19:20:20<katia>these are still in italy
19:20:25<katia>with 3 prongs even
19:20:40<katia>but it's 2 standards 1 which is wider
19:20:44<katia>and you can cram them together
19:20:44<@JAA>Yeah, 3 prongs, so at least there's protective earth.
19:20:46<katia>it's cursed
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19:21:28<@JAA>There's also Schuko in Italy though, and the three-prong ones are slowly disappearing, I think?
19:22:28<@JAA>Ah yes, this madness: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AC_power_plugs_and_sockets?useskin=vector#Italy_(Type_L)
19:23:24<katia>https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fd/Italian_sockets.jpg/400px-Italian_sockets.jpg
19:23:24<katia>this
19:23:35<@JAA>Yeah
19:23:48<katia>https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6c/Adapted_schuko.jpg
19:23:54<katia>tbh, i really like the left one
19:24:32<katia>it's the fanciest italian plug that isn't schuko because it supports everything without having to cram it
19:24:57<@JAA>:-)
19:25:09<@JAA>The Italian plug also isn't used anywhere else in the world like the Swiss one, right?
19:25:20<katia>probably
19:25:44<katia>actually
19:25:54<that_lurker>Can you really call a plug where you cannot shove a fork a plug
19:26:03<katia>swiss is vrey cursed, and you can cram schuko in the italian one
19:26:18<katia>so it's not really like the swiss one :P
19:26:47<@JAA>Older Swiss ones were compatible with Schuko, except you didn't get a protective earth connection, but who needs that anyway? :-P
19:27:00<@JAA>The sockets used to not be recessed.
19:27:03<katia>don't tell that to the netherlands
19:27:18<@JAA>:-)
19:28:00<thuban>>&useskin=vector
19:28:01<@JAA>The most cursed connector really is the Europlug because it has to accomodate so many different sockets.
19:28:02<thuban>https://rimgo.totaldarkness.net/87eXB2P.jpg
19:28:19<katia>only kitchen/bathroom i think are required to have ground in NL
19:29:25<@JAA>I've had them break while pulling out of a Swiss socket because they're slightly too narrow. They're flexible, so they still fit, but they can get caught on stuff inside the socket when pulling out.
19:29:46<@JAA>Like 'contact comes off the plug' terrifying break.
19:29:59<katia>oh, that sucks
19:30:12<@JAA>thuban: :-) I set that up in Redirector hours after they switched the default design. :-P
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19:31:25<thuban>ditto. the subsequent edge-case revisions weren't much fun...
19:32:00<fireonlive><@JAA> Electrocution builds character. < >:)
19:32:15<that_lurker>I love it when you plug a surge protector extension cord to a european plug and wont see the ground light turn on
19:32:58<nicolas17>JAA: to decompress a zstd file with multiple threads, do I need to have compressed it with multiple threads too, so that there are independent blocks?
19:33:31<@JAA>thuban: Hmm?
19:34:10<@JAA>nicolas17: I think so, yes. Just like with basically all other compression algorithms.
19:34:24<nicolas17>maybe it used blocks by default, idk
19:34:43<fireonlive>https://iknowwhatyoudownload.com/
19:35:00<@JAA>You can specify threads on the CLI, but I'm not sure how effective it is.
19:35:04<@JAA>-T option
19:35:39<that_lurker>fireonlive: The HN article had some interesting conversations on that
19:35:47<fireonlive>:)
19:35:53<@JAA>Probably also depends on available RAM (and there's an option for that limit, too) and the compression level.
19:36:08<fireonlive>looks like one of my neighbours was downloading something about making drugs at home!
19:36:23<that_lurker>Some countries have interesting way to asign ip:s so you could see what the entire street is downloading or something along those lines
19:36:23<fireonlive>rock on, i say
19:36:54<fireonlive>ah yes, CGNAT
19:36:57<nicolas17>https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/286612533757083648/1172620695000317972/PxnHeNUoD9JfAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC.png blast to the past
19:37:27<fireonlive>indeed!
19:37:27<thuban>JAA: well, there's the /wiki/ urls, and the /w/index.php urls, and mobile, and fragments, and other query params like 'action', and _url rewriting breaking form submission if your edit gets captcha'd_
19:37:35<that_lurker>JAA: There is no limit to the amount of ram if you just swap on multiple drives :P
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19:39:37<@JAA>thuban: Ah, yeah. For mobile and /w/index.php, I just refresh after the first load due to https://github.com/einaregilsson/Redirector/issues/139 as I have separate redirects for those. action was never an issue for me; that's actually why you see ?& in some of my URLs.
19:39:37<nicolas17>swap on AWS S3
19:40:03<@JAA>that_lurker: sshfs + swapfile :-)
19:40:05<nicolas17>fireonlive: I just took that screenshot on https://copy.sh/v86/?profile=windows98
19:43:03<thuban>yeah, i handle everything in one go. i got _most_ of the possible combinations the first time, but the casual suggestion that url rewriting was a totally accessible alternative to a configuration option was... specious
19:43:47<@JAA>Yeah
19:43:59<@JAA>I feel like #139 would be quite easy to fix.
19:45:02<@JAA>At least for the basic case I outlined in my comment there, which is really all that's needed for 99% of users.
19:46:27<thuban>well, if you want my evil one, it's (^https?://([^.]+\.))(m\.)?(wikipedia.org/[^?#]*)(\?((?!useskin)((?!action=(edit|submit)).)*?))?(#.*)?$ -> $1$4?useskin=vector&$6$9
19:47:07<@JAA>Beautiful
19:47:19<@JAA>So you don't rewrite mobile URLs to normal ones?
19:48:07<thuban>no, i do
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19:51:22<@JAA>Oh, yeah
19:51:33<@JAA>Write-only language...
19:51:39<fireonlive>https://github.com/einaregilsson/Redirector is the one you both use?
19:51:55<@JAA>Aye
19:52:29<fireonlive>:)
19:53:14<@JAA>I use ClearURLs as well for tracking params etc.
19:53:20<@JAA>Could be done with Redirector but meh.
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21:21:22<that_lurker>The Unix timestamp will begin with 17 this Tuesday: https://www.unixtimestamp.com/ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38222909
21:22:30<that_lurker>1717171717 is in Fri May 31 2024 16:08:37 GMT+0000
21:22:49<that_lurker>aka in 7 months
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21:39:45<@JAA>$ date +%Y-%m-%dT%H:%M:%SZ --date=@1700000000
21:39:45<@JAA>2023-11-14T22:13:20Z
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22:54:38<fireonlive>https://nitter.net/NathanMcNulty/status/1723068412904063187
22:54:39<fireonlive>nie.
22:54:40<fireonlive>nice,
22:54:41<fireonlive>nice.
23:09:23<nicolas17>JAA: okay seems zstd just doesn't support multithreaded decompression at all
23:18:28<@JAA>nicolas17: Hmm yeah, -T is actually only for compression, apparently. Welp.
23:21:52<@JAA>I found an ancient reference to a `--pzstd-headers` option for `pzstd` that would allegedly allow parallel decompression: https://github.com/facebook/zstd/issues/517#issuecomment-274061717
23:22:08<@JAA>The option no longer exists, and the content would have to be compressed like that for it to work, of course.
23:22:32<@JAA>Also, a comment a bit further down mentions that decompression is always single-threaded, so... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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