| 00:15:49 | <nicolas17> | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F-Ms-FQbsAAaQ-w.png |
| 00:40:43 | <joepie91|m> | hah |
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| 02:42:11 | <@JAA> | 'The Bizarre Cottage Industry of YouTube Obituary Pirates': https://www.wired.com/story/youtube-obituary-pirates/ |
| 02:46:31 | <joepie91|m> | what on earth |
| 02:46:34 | <joepie91|m> | well, not on earth I suppose... |
| 03:46:19 | <nicolas17> | wtf |
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| 16:23:10 | <@JAA> | 'Bored Ape collectors experience searing eye pain after "ApeFest" party': https://web3isgoinggreat.com/?id=apefest-photokeratitis |
| 16:24:51 | <nicolas17> | laser eyes |
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| 20:07:32 | <fireonlive> | on blinding lights: https://twitter.com/atomicthumbs/status/1721602536225091716 |
| 20:07:33 | <eggdrop> | nitter: https://nitter.net/atomicthumbs/status/1721602536225091716 |
| 20:07:42 | <fireonlive> | "oh my fucking god they used UVC germicidal lamps as blacklights. they're just fucking OUT THERE. you should NEVER see this" |
| 20:10:01 | <nukke> | No way. There's no way. |
| 20:14:59 | <fireonlive> | right?! |
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| 21:22:04 | <fireonlive> | "Element informed the Foundation that it will be forking Synapse and Dendrite" |
| 21:22:15 | <fireonlive> | https://mastodon.matrix.org/@matrix/111363858784535894 |
| 21:22:37 | <fireonlive> | "Today is a tough day, and we'd like to thank everyone for the outpouring of support and insightful questions." https://mastodon.matrix.org/@matrix/111365650091102396 |
| 21:24:18 | <@JAA> | Huh, what drama did I miss? |
| 21:24:38 | <fireonlive> | i thought matrix-org owned element 😅 |
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| 21:33:03 | <katia> | huh uh huh |
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| 21:57:59 | <nicolas17> | fireonlive: https://twitter.com/molly0xFFF/status/1721549511950999579 |
| 21:57:59 | <eggdrop> | nitter: https://nitter.net/molly0xFFF/status/1721549511950999579 |
| 21:58:33 | <fireonlive> | :3 |
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| 22:32:40 | <nukke> | I know Element has had a lot of drama for a while. |
| 22:33:39 | <nukke> | They're basically GNOME-like when it comes to suggestions and contributions. It's the reason why a lot of "features" other matrix clients and competitors have are missing with Element |
| 22:34:16 | <nukke> | Actually I think fire or someone else linked that one GitHub issue page about addition of stickers (basically custom emojis per server) |
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| 23:16:57 | | fireonlive has a 'should have never chosen matrix' mantra |
| 23:19:57 | <nukke> | Same, but at the same time, what are the alternatives? The rocket chat CEO made comments about regretting making it open source |
| 23:20:45 | <nukke> | Or maybe it was Mattermost devs, I forget |
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| 23:24:11 | <fireonlive> | ew :\ |
| 23:24:32 | <fireonlive> | friend and i briefly played with one of those.. can't remember which. but notifications were a pain to get working/didn't work |
| 23:25:26 | <fireonlive> | (push on mobile) |
| 23:25:54 | <joepie91|m> | I wouldn't quite declare Matrix dead yet |
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| 23:46:45 | <fireonlive> | https://www.securityweek.com/okta-hack-blamed-on-employee-using-personal-google-account-on-company-laptop/ o_O |
| 23:46:54 | <fireonlive> | i guess re: matrix what replacements really are there |
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| 23:47:25 | <fireonlive> | there’s telegram which unfortunately to be the best in terms of UX.. but it’s closed then theres… ?? |
| 23:47:46 | <@JAA> | 'Okta is blaming the recent hack' – uh, which one? :-) |
| 23:47:48 | <joepie91|m> | yeah |
| 23:47:58 | <fireonlive> | like great on mobile and ok-decent on desktop |
| 23:48:39 | <fireonlive> | JAA: :P |
| 23:48:46 | <joepie91|m> | fireonlive: flashbacks to the many, many, MANY discussions I have had with people about not outsourcing your authentication to a security company and people trying to tell me that actually that's the responsible thing to do because they are the experts and you as a lowly developer as not |
| 23:48:57 | <joepie91|m> | s/as not/are not/ |
| 23:49:18 | <joepie91|m> | .... can you buy a house with "told you so" tokens...? asking for a friend |
| 23:49:30 | <@JAA> | See also: Azure know better than you how to run Exchange servers. :-) |
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| 23:56:42 | <fireonlive> | xP |
| 23:56:48 | <fireonlive> | yeaaaah >_< |
| 23:57:16 | <fireonlive> | curious what cloudflare will do now, the ceo seemed to be hinting at a “fool me twice” thing |
| 23:57:41 | <fireonlive> | inb4 it’s not on their HA thing |
| 23:57:58 | <joepie91|m> | I think Cloudflare might currently be a bit busy dealing with the fallout of their own incident |
| 23:58:24 | <joepie91|m> | it did not seems like the HN crowd appreciated that half their post-mortem consisted of trying to shift blame to the datacenter |
| 23:58:28 | <joepie91|m> | seem* |
| 23:59:00 | <nicolas17> | and there was also the workers KV outage days earlier |
| 23:59:10 | <nicolas17> | which also exposed other dependency issues |
| 23:59:41 | <nicolas17> | "we couldn't rollback the broken KV deploy because our deployment systems depended on auth systems that depended on KV" |