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| 01:05:34 | <pabs> | https://www.wired.com/story/gaza-internet-blackout-israel/ |
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| 04:12:39 | <pabs> | TIL https://github.com/jmatj/har2pcap - could be useful for viewing browser network requests outside browsers |
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| 04:58:03 | <fireonlive> | what's that like |
| 04:58:21 | <fireonlive> | not web.arhive.org/not archive.is/ph/today/etc 'website saver' that's online |
| 04:58:28 | <fireonlive> | & doesn't need reg to use |
| 04:58:46 | <fireonlive> | shadow? |
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| 06:57:59 | <icedice> | <fireonlive> what's that like |
| 06:57:59 | <icedice> | <fireonlive> not web.arhive.org/not archive.is/ph/today/etc 'website saver' that's online |
| 06:57:59 | <icedice> | <fireonlive> & doesn't need reg to use |
| 06:58:04 | <icedice> | ghostarchive.org |
| 06:58:07 | <icedice> | megalodon.jp |
| 06:58:19 | <icedice> | archive.st is "online", but was broken last time I checked |
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| 12:16:39 | <nukke> | https://github.com/advisories/GHSA-xwcq-pm8m-c4vf |
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| 16:29:59 | <thuban> | til: python supports underscore separators in numeric literals. handy i guess, but i still wish there were an e-notation equivalent for ints |
| 16:36:19 | <@JAA> | lol PBKDF2 with a single iteration of SHA1 *facepalm* |
| 16:39:30 | <ymgve_> | thuban: nice of them picking a way to separate that is not used in any region in the world |
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| 16:41:42 | <@JAA> | ymgve_: I think I've heard that it is used in some contexts, but definitely very rare, yeah. Can't use commas though since those were already in use for tuples. |
| 16:43:36 | <thuban> | i understand a number of programming languages do it |
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| 16:43:54 | <thuban> | (notable exception: c++, which somehow went with _single quotes_) |
| 16:44:00 | <@JAA> | Yeah, I mean outside of programming. |
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| 18:07:11 | <nicolas17> | JAA: single iteration of sha1 is bad, but we need someone who actually understands cryptography to write the advisory, there's so much bullshit there |
| 18:07:28 | <nicolas17> | "To encrypt the user password via symmetric encryption we might do [...] This is a common scheme for protecting passwords, as exemplified in bcrypt & scrypt." wtf |
| 18:20:56 | <@JAA> | Yeah, true. |
| 18:25:32 | <@JAA> | Maybe the advisory was written by the same person who thought a single iteration of SHA1 was a good idea for a default. :-) |
| 18:33:03 | <fireonlive> | “but we upgraded from md5!” |
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| 18:54:31 | <nicolas17> | turns out all the length-extension stuff in the advisory is also bullshit |
| 18:55:35 | <nicolas17> | PBKDF2 doesn't use SHA1, it uses HMAC-SHA1 |
| 18:55:57 | <nicolas17> | yes, using sha256 would be better, but HMAC protects against length extension attacks no matter the hash |
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| 20:01:35 | <Barto> | you shouldnt use pbkdf2 with so few iterations, look at the owasp standard that tells like 1300000 iterations for sha-1, sha256 is 600k |
| 20:01:52 | <Barto> | you're way better off with argon2 |
| 20:02:11 | <Barto> | surprisingly bcrypt holds way better over time |
| 20:02:21 | <Barto> | https://cheatsheetseries.owasp.org/cheatsheets/Password_Storage_Cheat_Sheet.html |
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| 20:05:38 | <@JAA> | They changed it to SHA256 and 250k. |
| 20:06:13 | <@JAA> | But it'd be surprising if this was the only flaw in the thing. Personally, I'd replace that thing as if it was dangerously radioactive. |
| 20:08:45 | <nicolas17> | Barto: this library was using 1 iteration by default |
| 20:08:47 | <nicolas17> | ONE |
| 20:28:29 | <nukke> | Hey give them a break, they wanted to keep compatibility with 33MHz CPUs |
| 20:28:44 | <nukke> | Any more iterations would be too much for those poor things |
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| 21:07:05 | <Barto> | nicolas17: time to barf i guess |
| 21:15:10 | <fireonlive> | shall we interlock arms while we finger punch our uvulas |
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| 21:48:03 | <fireonlive> | did i type that |
| 21:48:07 | <fireonlive> | and why |
| 21:48:14 | <project10> | (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ |
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| 23:52:28 | <that_lurker> | https://lounge.kuhaon.fun/folder/ca5f21df47d00891/what.gif |