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00:11:47<imer>The filenames alone lol
00:12:49<@JAA>I notice a distinct lack of hello.jpg.
00:22:51<fireonlive>JAA: a travesty
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00:40:36<flashfire42>What the fuck
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01:04:48<project10>Image:Willys-Knight1920.jpg
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01:13:44<HP_Archivist>imer: Got it all downloaded just fine using my method. I plan to put all of this into an item on IA with proper context and description.
01:19:46<imer>Great :)
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01:32:42<HP_Archivist>In the CLI docs under Uploading it states <identifier> is the my account handle or the email for the account?
01:32:51<HP_Archivist>is this my account handle*
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01:45:28<DigitalDragons>The identifier is the part of the url after details/
01:45:39<DigitalDragons>ie for https://archive.org/details/wiki-aifb.kit.edu-20230924 it's wiki-aifb.kit.edu-20230924
01:46:44<HP_Archivist>DigitalDragons: Thanks - that's what I thought, but I realized I needed to create the item first
01:48:29<HP_Archivist>I'm using Ubuntu on Win11. So, I'm trying to figure out how to specify the specific folder full of subfolders and files in the CLI
01:52:06<DigitalDragons>When you use ia upload it should create the item automatically if it doesn't already exist
01:53:33<HP_Archivist>I was probably doing something wrong, but I tried that and got an error
01:53:47<HP_Archivist>So, I created this manually https://archive.org/details/radiolab-wnyc-radio-program
01:54:28<HP_Archivist>Now, I have to figure out how to navigate to the folder on my desktop, e.g. ia upload radiolab-wnyc-radio-program --files-should-go-here --metadata-too
01:55:00<HP_Archivist>I don't normally upload via the cli, mostly download. So, I'm kinda new to this
01:58:27<DigitalDragons>"ia upload radiolab-wnyc-radio-program foldername" should work if you don't mind all the files in the item appearing in the foldername folder and not being in the item
01:58:49<DigitalDragons>"ia upload radiolab-wnyc-radio-program subfoldername subfoldername2 subfoldername3" and so on if you do
01:59:03<DigitalDragons>(err, enter the folder before doing the second one)
01:59:52<HP_Archivist>Let me give that a try
02:00:49<HP_Archivist>I want to preserve the entire directory. Main folder has 3 subfolders, and each of those have many subfolders with files in those
02:01:46<HP_Archivist>It'd be easier to just drag n' drop the folders in the browser, but I wanted to learn how to do this anyway
02:09:21<HP_Archivist>Oh, completely forgot. IA doesn't accept open folders aka zero-byte files
02:17:31<HP_Archivist>I'll have to revisit this tomorrow. I guess I forgot that you it doesn't like folders (zero byte files) that act as the main folder for sub folders and sub-sub folders that have files in the latter
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13:39:56<@JAA>HP_Archivist: No idea what you mean by that. You can upload empty files to IA.
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14:25:15<HP_Archivist>JAA: I get the following error "You cannot upload empty files
14:25:15<HP_Archivist>Please remove zero-byte files from the upload list. Please note that directories show up as zero-byte files in Firefox, and directory uploads are only supported in Chrome."
14:25:25<HP_Archivist>And yes, using Chrome
14:25:42<@JAA>Sounds like a limitation of the web interface.
14:26:01<@JAA>`ia upload` shouldn't care.
14:27:01<HP_Archivist>Hmm. Then I have to try doing this through CLI again. But I couldn't figure out how to do the argument
14:28:42<HP_Archivist>ia upload identifier --file-folder-should-go-here (but I don't know how to navigate to it)
14:29:37<@JAA>You `cd` to the directory containing the data, then `ia upload identifier somedir`. This uploads everything inside ./somedir/ into a directory of the same name in the IA item.
14:29:45<@JAA>Also, why is this in -ot? :-)
14:39:14<HP_Archivist>Ahh, that's it! Thank you JAA. Always helpful. And yeah, Idk why I chose -ot for this last night. :P
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14:40:57<@JAA>By the way, technically, no directory is ever uploaded. Rather, you upload 'somedir/somefile' and IA creates the 'somedir' directory automatically (and also removes it again if you ever delete all files inside it).
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14:41:45<@JAA>I guess the error you mentioned is because of weird JS API quirks that would prevent this from working.
14:42:10<@JAA>It'd first upload a zero-byte file 'somedir' and then fail on the other uploads because it can't create it as a directory.
14:42:32<@JAA>You can upload empty files with the CLI.
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23:14:02<HP_Archivist>RE: From earlier. Thanks for the insight JAA ^
23:15:38<HP_Archivist>Only slight annoying thing is that is created a 'mnt' > '
23:16:17<HP_Archivist>'mnt' > 'c" folders and then it's the Radiolab parent folder e.g. https://archive.org/download/radiolab-wnyc-radio-program-series
23:16:59<@JAA>HP_Archivist: Sounds like you didn't `cd` into the right directory.
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23:17:44<@JAA>If you `ia upload $identifier /some/path`, it will upload it like that, i.e. there'll be a directory 'some' in the item and so on.
23:18:03<@JAA>If you `cd /some && ia upload $identifier path`, 'path' will be the directory in the item.
23:18:38<HP_Archivist>Ugh. Well, not a big deal. Just not ideal
23:19:05<HP_Archivist>I could start over, I suppose
23:19:59<@JAA>There's a move command on the CLI, but it's a bit annoying to use.
23:21:28<HP_Archivist>I thought about that, JAA. But I wouldn't know how. Barely knew how to do this, Lol.
23:21:55<HP_Archivist>Also, iirc, trying to move via the browser is problematic so I've heard
23:22:20<HP_Archivist>Maybe best to leave as-is for now
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23:23:26<@JAA>Never tried to do anything in the web interface.
23:23:31@JAA likes CLIs. :-)
23:24:16<@JAA>Basically, you have to call `ia move` for each file individually. Can be scripted, but it's annoying anyhow.
23:24:50<@JAA>https://github.com/jjjake/internetarchive/issues/308
23:29:55<HP_Archivist>JAA: Well, forget that. This person's archive of all the Radiolab material tops out at 1331 files, heh
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23:37:49<fireonlive>A personal appeal from HP_Archivist to jjjake
23:38:05<fireonlive>please read
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23:55:32<@JAA>https://nitter.net/TylerGlaiel/status/1706384660316774894 *facepalm*
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