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| 00:02:33 | <HP_Archivist> | By archive, I meant save the HTML* |
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| 01:03:37 | <fireonlive> | "<Rei> who lived in a pineapple under the sea, SPONGEBOB SQUAREPANTS <Rei> who died in an oil spill because of bp, SPONGEBOB SQUAREPANTS!" |
| 01:08:47 | <thuban> | good, but would scan better with "'cause" |
| 01:10:09 | <nulldata> | fireonlive - https://gfycat.com/glossyquerulousbobwhite |
| 01:11:57 | <fireonlive> | :D |
| 01:41:34 | <fireonlive> | 02:41:45 PM -+rss- ZFSBootMenu: https://docs.zfsbootmenu.org/en/v2.2.x/# https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37113917 |
| 01:52:03 | <fireonlive> | amazing, embedded tweets via link (which are now x.com) don't seem to work anymore |
| 01:52:23 | <fireonlive> | it's just an x.com link that elides at the end with '...' |
| 02:22:42 | <fireonlive> | 692068617665206e6f206d6f7574682c20616e642069206d7573742073637265616d |
| 02:26:59 | <BPCZ> | lol |
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| 03:29:32 | <katocala> | !ig d3wg01bjdfw226xbpz48uxpb3 ^https?://gab\.com/.*\.js$ |
| 03:29:48 | <katocala> | blah |
| 03:29:55 | <\> | hi |
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| 03:36:50 | <\> | https://x.com/thebobpony/status/1690651478212415488?s=12 |
| 03:36:51 | <eggdrop> | nitter: https://nitter.projectsegfau.lt/thebobpony/status/1690651478212415488 |
| 03:37:27 | <nicolas17> | https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/271024005283184641/1140488617828044861/t0vk8pcj4zhb1.png |
| 03:40:31 | <\> | lmao |
| 03:48:53 | <nulldata> | fireon\ |
| 03:49:03 | <\> | :3 |
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| 04:06:29 | <\> | https://mkx9delh5a.execute-api.ca-central-1.amazonaws.com/uploads/75968624a1b16c62/image.png |
| 04:16:03 | <\> | you ever kill yourself over and over in a video game, imagining it was real life |
| 04:16:14 | <\> | yeah me neither |
| 04:18:50 | <\> | https://mkx9delh5a.execute-api.ca-central-1.amazonaws.com/uploads/da3b8989ff67d5c1/IMG_4355.jpeg |
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| 05:02:14 | <\> | https://bpa.st/raw/BX2A |
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| 05:36:03 | <fireonlive> | since when does donuts run .org? |
| 05:36:25 | <fireonlive> | contact: technical / name: Senior Director, DNS Infrastructure Group / organisation: Donuts Inc. |
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| 05:57:57 | <fireonlive> | https://mkx9delh5a.execute-api.ca-central-1.amazonaws.com/uploads/3d120357eaf49715/image.png |
| 05:58:01 | <fireonlive> | tht's a good change detection |
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| 12:01:06 | <pabs> | https://www.hadess.net/2023/08/new-responsibilities.html |
| 12:01:11 | <pabs> | RedHat :( |
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| 13:17:08 | <nulldata> | Might as well rebrand to Big BlueHat. |
| 13:41:20 | <nstrom|m> | Do we want to unpause telegram, reddit, imgur now that backfeed is fixed? |
| 13:56:40 | <pabs> | -> #-bs? |
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| 14:03:09 | <nstrom|m> | whoops sry |
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| 14:46:08 | <nukke> | power-profiles-daemon is getting archived?!? What???? |
| 14:46:25 | <nukke> | That was released recently and has become essential on laptops |
| 14:49:56 | <pabs> | RedHat going into penny-pinching mode |
| 14:50:21 | <pabs> | using Linux is going to get harder |
| 15:11:10 | <\> | https://mkx9delh5a.execute-api.ca-central-1.amazonaws.com/uploads/a37d4813611ab6ce/image.png matrix/element/whatever pisses me off |
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| 15:42:39 | <katia> | it sucks |
| 15:42:45 | <katia> | i've been running my matrix server for a few years |
| 15:42:48 | <katia> | i'm about to rm -rf it |
| 15:43:24 | <fireonlive> | yeah :/ that and the media-that's-deleted-but-still-lives-in-the-storage-directory |
| 15:43:48 | <katia> | it's all so clunky and slow.. |
| 15:43:52 | <fireonlive> | i tried federation and thought it was broken, but turns out no i just have to wait 30+ minutes to join one channel |
| 15:43:57 | <katia> | https://github.com/vector-im/element-call/pull/492#issuecomment-1642504383 |
| 15:44:15 | <katia> | and nobody can even contribute meaningfully to it :/ |
| 15:44:21 | <fireonlive> | so i just switched to using it for chat with a friend and a bot lol |
| 15:45:11 | <fireonlive> | oof, that's sad |
| 15:45:41 | <fireonlive> | :/ |
| 15:45:43 | <katia> | it's really really sad. with some semblance of usable voice calls, i could try and bait some friends into trying it over discord |
| 15:46:36 | <katia> | but even when this element call works (which is.. not always) -- there's no noise cancellation or audio activation of any kind |
| 15:46:49 | <fireonlive> | "Since this proposed voice gate would require a decent amount of technical knowledge for a non-discord non-power users we decided against it." lol |
| 15:46:59 | <katia> | reminds me of skype ... but worse |
| 15:47:24 | <katia> | i think skype recognised non-voice and made it less loud maybe, maybe in groups? maybe i'm making it up |
| 15:48:29 | <fireonlive> | my friend is pretty technical and the other one that used to use my homeserver before we switched over to IRC was super technical, but even the basic stuff like.. encrypted messages randomly not working and requiring a full app force quit and restart was (and is) very annoying |
| 15:49:07 | <fireonlive> | like you'd think they'd get basic text chat right lol |
| 15:49:59 | <fireonlive> | but yeah no noise cancelation or audio activation either sounds like a bad call time too :/ |
| 15:50:08 | <fireonlive> | especially when discord 'just works' |
| 15:50:11 | <katia> | and that's when it works |
| 15:50:14 | <fireonlive> | or telegram 'just works' |
| 15:50:46 | <katia> | it fails silently. most of the time, you either don't hear one another, or only one party can hear one another |
| 15:51:26 | <katia> | anyway... mumble is probably still the next best thing that is not discord - but that is also not 'just works' UX |
| 15:51:41 | <katia> | but it does work pretty well once you get it set up right and whatnot |
| 16:11:56 | <fireonlive> | hmm voice only though yeah? |
| 16:12:53 | <fireonlive> | some people are pointing to https://revolt.chat as "an open source discord replacement" but I don't know much about it |
| 16:15:24 | <fireonlive> | ah it's hard to find? i guess they want you using theirs.. https://github.com/revoltchat |
| 16:16:22 | <fireonlive> | doesn't seem to be just something you slap up in a couple hours though |
| 16:16:44 | <fireonlive> | https://github.com/revoltchat/self-hosted oh ok maybe |
| 16:16:54 | <fireonlive> | anyways, idk anything about how good/etc it is lol |
| 16:17:17 | <fireonlive> | i see mongodb so i'm immediately turned off :P |
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| 16:24:18 | <Doranwen> | fireonlive: I've tried Revolt, it's missing a few key features that I'd want, and the servers I tried were fairly quiet |
| 16:24:31 | <Doranwen> | I haven't had the spare RAM to run it for a while now, so who knows what's happening next |
| 16:28:17 | <Doranwen> | I didn't try any audio or anything like that, I don't remember what it had as far as that goes, I was only trying text chat |
| 16:31:05 | <katia> | yeah i think revolt is not it either unfortunately |
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| 17:09:36 | <fireonlive> | yeah sadly not :/ |
| 17:10:15 | <fireonlive> | another element annoyance: if you’re talking on desktop (or i assume another device) your phone still blows up with notifications from your active chat lol |
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| 17:10:58 | <fireonlive> | maybe if the lounge implements message redaction… but the notification experience with TL is kinda shit too |
| 17:11:14 | <fireonlive> | not *as* shit, but not completely great |
| 17:13:35 | <fireonlive> | Doranwen: ah interesting… everything has a long way to go it seems, then again not everything has the funding of a telegram or a discord |
| 17:14:01 | <fireonlive> | but the “voice thing too complicated” for element is kinda sad lol |
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| 17:22:21 | <katia> | yeah, it's doesn't feel like like IRC, where there's dozens of viable options. element / element call is pretty much the spec implementation and everything else lags behind / is just as buggy |
| 17:22:54 | <katia> | besides this element call... they implemented like 3 other ways to make calls before and none of them worked |
| 17:22:59 | <katia> | :| |
| 17:24:34 | <nulldata> | https://lemmy.world/post/3174491 |
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| 17:47:09 | <nicolas17> | so it seems Jason Scott just deleted the Internet Archive discord on a whim without anyone having a chance to archive it |
| 17:52:16 | <audrooku|m> | Seems more likely that he just kicked everyone, but yes, unfortunately |
| 17:52:37 | <DigitalDragons> | :( |
| 17:53:12 | <nicolas17> | I'm not sure if Discord has an easy way to "kick everyone" |
| 17:53:38 | <DigitalDragons> | Not really. |
| 17:53:41 | <katia> | it's doable enough with bots |
| 17:54:15 | <nicolas17> | there was no moderation bot already in there |
| 17:54:22 | <DigitalDragons> | he's live (but in IA meetings) if someone wants to ask |
| 17:54:27 | <katia> | depending how many users you might need many bots / IPs for the ratelimit and to finish in a reasonable time |
| 17:55:17 | <nicolas17> | DigitalDragons: "oh and now you come harass me on twitch about it?" *banned from there too* |
| 17:55:55 | <DigitalDragons> | which is why I'm not brave enough to ask lmao |
| 17:56:02 | <nicolas17> | that's probably how it would go |
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| 18:09:34 | <fireonlive> | oh yeah the "Friends of Internet Archive" discord |
| 18:09:49 | <fireonlive> | the one invite link he posted expired before I made "my" discord account and went in there |
| 18:09:59 | <fireonlive> | wonder what happened |
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| 18:11:08 | <fireonlive> | nicolas17: what was it mainly about? |
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| 18:13:27 | <fireonlive> | besides the obvious |
| 18:17:45 | <nulldata> | Didn't know there was a Discord. Was it the same as this? https://archive.org/details/ia_discord If so, was the server even his to delete? Was not aware he is banhammer happy either lol |
| 18:18:15 | <fireonlive> | he's the resident asshole :p |
| 18:19:15 | <fireonlive> | (though is also nice, depending ;D) |
| 18:19:34 | <fireonlive> | i don't think that's the one though |
| 18:21:06 | <nulldata> | How many of the 22 viewers are us waiting for someone to ask about it in chat :P |
| 18:21:48 | <fireonlive> | x3 |
| 18:21:57 | <fireonlive> | i was one of them |
| 18:22:57 | <fireonlive> | speaking of twitch... does anyone know of something to 'watch' channels for them to go live and then immediately start saving the live stream to disk? |
| 18:23:31 | <fireonlive> | i thought i stumbled upon one long ago but idk |
| 18:23:46 | <fireonlive> | cc TheTechRobo? |
| 18:29:30 | <nicolas17> | fireonlive: if they store VODs, just grab that |
| 18:31:01 | <fireonlive> | ye sometimes they dont :( |
| 18:33:32 | <fireonlive> | if anyone gets an answer off textfiles twitch lmk |
| 18:33:42 | <fireonlive> | i can't stand the audio anymore 😅 |
| 18:34:07 | <fireonlive> | also TIL he's not working out of his apt/house anymore: https://www.gofundme.com/f/jason-scott-livestream-and-scanning-office-fund |
| 18:34:13 | <fireonlive> | nice to see :) |
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| 18:38:23 | <Doranwen> | Huh, I didn't even notice that Discord server vanished from my list - but I've been busy this morning. |
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| 19:09:52 | <ivan> | I archived it |
| 19:10:39 | <fireonlive> | you're the GOAT ivan |
| 19:10:58 | <nicolas17> | that was fast |
| 19:11:19 | <nicolas17> | it didn't take too long between threat-to-delete and actual deletion |
| 19:11:37 | <fireonlive> | oh, there was a threat too? |
| 19:12:48 | <fireonlive> | feel free to spill the tea in the DMs |
| 19:13:02 | <nicolas17> | well I don't have the messages he sent |
| 19:13:24 | <nicolas17> | since ... he deleted the server :P |
| 19:13:33 | <TheTechRobo> | fireonlive: I think I found one for youtube but i don't know any for twitch |
| 19:13:55 | <ivan> | I archived it to JSON on 2023-07-25 |
| 19:13:56 | <TheTechRobo> | nicolas17: I knew he was closing the old one but I thought there was a replacement |
| 19:14:11 | <nicolas17> | ah |
| 19:14:22 | <BPCZ> | nicolas17: smh not running a custom discord client to archive everything |
| 19:14:31 | <nicolas17> | ikr |
| 19:14:34 | <ivan> | BPCZ: does that exist |
| 19:14:38 | <nicolas17> | well |
| 19:14:43 | <BPCZ> | Ivan unofficially |
| 19:14:47 | <nicolas17> | you can actually archive it in the most raw way possible |
| 19:14:52 | <TheTechRobo> | I mean you could mitmproxy everything or keep DHT running |
| 19:15:02 | <DigitalDragons> | there was a threat to delete too? |
| 19:15:03 | <TheTechRobo> | Hook up the client to mitmproxy I mean* |
| 19:15:04 | <BPCZ> | https://betterdiscord.app |
| 19:15:05 | <fireonlive> | auto archiving discord client is interesting |
| 19:15:22 | <nicolas17> | "env SSLKEYLOGFILE=discord-ssl.log discord" and run a packet capture :D |
| 19:15:24 | <fireonlive> | i wish the current discordchatexporter would use jsonl but that's my only complaint lol |
| 19:15:30 | <ivan> | BPCZ: thanks |
| 19:15:46 | <TheTechRobo> | fireonlive: Yeah |
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| 19:16:17 | <TheTechRobo> | People need to learn the ⭐ magic ⭐ of JSONL |
| 19:16:38 | <thuban> | fireonlive, re twitch: their api is pretty open, you could probably do something that polled it |
| 19:17:05 | <fireonlive> | thuban: ah yeah fair enough :) |
| 19:17:16 | <fireonlive> | didn't want to reinvent the wheel but it's not too bad i supposew |
| 19:17:22 | <TheTechRobo> | yeah it's all GQL |
| 19:17:38 | <TheTechRobo> | though be aware that they have toyed around with a browser 'integrity check' that's entirely JS-based |
| 19:17:49 | <TheTechRobo> | (assuming you guys mean the API used in-browser) |
| 19:18:38 | <nicolas17> | fireonlive: for Twitch I just used VODs |
| 19:19:03 | <nicolas17> | if I started saving it before the stream *ended* then it wouldn't be affected by muting |
| 19:19:22 | <fireonlive> | ahh ok, so if they have VODs on then should be good |
| 19:19:50 | <fireonlive> | i haven't tested too much but I've been like hm there's a few poeple i wouldn't mind having in the background |
| 19:20:21 | <nicolas17> | if the streamer has VODs enabled and auto-publishing, the .m3u8 for the VOD updates every 5 minutes or so and you can watch the VOD while the stream is still live |
| 19:20:32 | <nicolas17> | so I polled the .m3u8 to get new video segments, and when it stopped changing then I knew the stream was over |
| 19:20:59 | <nicolas17> | and the mute-copyrighted-music process seemed to run like hours later |
| 19:21:22 | <fireonlive> | ah awesome |
| 19:45:23 | <nulldata> | fireonlive - the s̶o̶u̶n̶d̶s̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶t̶o̶r̶t̶u̶r̶e̶ static is gone now, he's talking |
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| 19:45:52 | <fireonlive> | nulldata: thanks :D |
| 19:45:53 | <nulldata> | nvm it's back now lol |
| 19:46:18 | <fireonlive> | rip |
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| 19:49:47 | <nulldata> | I wonder what tape is playing on the bottom window of the monitor lol |
| 19:52:34 | <fireonlive> | replacing a battery on my airtag because it just popped up; and the child-protectant bitterant coating so they don't eat the tiny batteries make it not work with the damn thing |
| 19:52:36 | <fireonlive> | lol |
| 19:52:41 | <fireonlive> | fucking hell |
| 19:53:26 | <ivan> | fireonlive: the bitterant is easy to rub off with any alcohol wipe or probably other things |
| 19:53:40 | <ivan> | I used lens wipes |
| 19:54:15 | <ivan> | it's just some atoms sprayed on |
| 19:54:26 | <fireonlive> | ah! thanksi'l give that a go |
| 19:55:13 | <fireonlive> | i happen to have a big box :) |
| 19:56:04 | <ivan> | if you have young children around anywhere you want to make the airtag too large and unappealing with e.g. tape to open and ingest battery |
| 19:56:11 | <ivan> | battery kills the child |
| 19:56:49 | <fireonlive> | yep that worked! |
| 19:56:54 | <ivan> | :-) |
| 19:56:56 | <fireonlive> | ah yes good point |
| 19:56:59 | <fireonlive> | thanks :) |
| 19:59:41 | <nicolas17> | running reddit killed my modem again -.- |
| 20:00:01 | <nicolas17> | I'll stick to gfycat which has a low request rate due to the delays anyway |
| 20:01:43 | <@JAA> | TheTechRobo: JSONL? Do you not enjoy parsing a multi-gigabyte single JSON object? It's fun! |
| 20:02:04 | <nicolas17> | NotLikeThis |
| 20:02:49 | <TheTechRobo> | JAA: Fortunately there are JSON streaming modules for Python. |
| 20:03:07 | <@JAA> | That's too easy. |
| 20:03:21 | <TheTechRobo> | :P |
| 20:03:23 | <@JAA> | `sys.setrecursionlimit` and standard `json.load` and a lot of RAM :-P |
| 20:03:54 | <TheTechRobo> | My VPS has 4GB of RAM and 4GB of swap. I'd prefer not to :-) |
| 20:03:59 | <nicolas17> | JAA: parse this XML into a DOM https://planet.openstreetmap.org/planet/2023/planet-230807.osm.bz2 |
| 20:04:39 | <@JAA> | Ah yes, planet.osm is fun. |
| 20:05:04 | <nulldata> | Make sure to use the same method Rockstar used to parse JSON! https://nee.lv/2021/02/28/How-I-cut-GTA-Online-loading-times-by-70/ |
| 20:11:33 | <fireonlive> | https://mkx9delh5a.execute-api.ca-central-1.amazonaws.com/uploads/b50f3f391784df4b/image.png |
| 20:11:37 | <fireonlive> | all the memory in the world |
| 20:11:44 | <fireonlive> | nulldata: that was really something lmao |
| 20:13:08 | <thuban> | a classic |
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| 21:52:28 | <fireonlive> | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGW3TPytTjc |
| 21:52:29 | <fireonlive> | oof |
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| 21:57:25 | <nicolas17> | fireonlive: https://twitter.com/BaloneyGeek/status/1691206669760442368 |
| 21:57:25 | <eggdrop> | nitter: https://nitter.projectsegfau.lt/BaloneyGeek/status/1691206669760442368 |
| 21:57:55 | <fireonlive> | ah right! |
| 21:58:03 | <fireonlive> | i'd be interested ot know which one |
| 21:58:15 | <fireonlive> | was it the 'set up ZFS with no scrubbing/alerting on raw-dog centos' |
| 21:58:20 | <fireonlive> | or something more recent lol |
| 21:58:40 | <fireonlive> | (that did lead to catastrophic data loss) |
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| 23:10:30 | <fireonlive> | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F3hF0iRX0AEmqKP?format=png |
| 23:13:27 | <DigitalDragons> | lmaoo |
| 23:16:44 | <Doranwen> | Ah, so there *is* a replacement for the IA Discord - one that's run by community people instead and not modded by any IA person, so it can be said to be not affiliated, I guess? |
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| 23:18:40 | <DigitalDragons> | happen to have a link? |
| 23:18:54 | <DigitalDragons> | (or does it need to be made?) |
| 23:21:31 | <Doranwen> | Well, a friend posted an invite, I hope it's OK to share: https://discord.gg/YzgyBkmBby |
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| 23:23:14 | <DigitalDragons> | thanks! |
| 23:23:38 | <fireonlive> | tk :3 |
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| 23:41:24 | <Doranwen> | Yw :) |
| 23:57:47 | <nicolas17> | apparently fxtwitter/vxtwitter are currently broken |