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00:09:17<pabs>fireonlive: re gitea, run and hide. thats what the person who tried to package gitea for Debian did after getting involved in the upstream project
00:09:33<pabs>(probably same goes for forgejo, but maybe they have better practices)
00:09:37<fireonlive>:o
00:09:46<fireonlive>bad quality?
00:10:21<pabs>yeah
00:10:40<pabs>I'll see if I can find their comments about it, sec
00:15:19<pabs>please don't archive this URL, Debian IRC policy is to not allow public logs. here is the conversation from #debian-mentors: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/e4d806f8/
00:16:07<fireonlive>ah, thanks!
00:19:34<thuban>ty, informative
00:21:13<pabs>these days I think I'd go with SourceHut
00:23:21<fireonlive>o_o interesting
00:23:45<fireonlive>oh yeah sht is opensource isn't it
00:23:56<fireonlive>(interesting, to say the least)
00:23:59<pabs>sr.ht is the short name :)
00:24:06<fireonlive>ah ye :)
00:24:48<pabs>SourceHut definitely isn't everyone's cup of tea, especially the GitHub generation
00:26:36<fireonlive>ah yes very old school unixy
00:27:10<pabs>yeah, most people want email to be dead, but not the SourceHut folks :)
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00:31:45<fireonlive>:)
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01:45:25<fireonlive>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36971650
01:45:26<fireonlive>oh o_O
01:45:28<fireonlive>huh.
01:49:04<imer>thats fucked up
01:49:13<imer>and also explains things
01:49:18<fireonlive>yeah...
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01:51:05<@Buizel>rewby|backup: I was told it was PMD day
01:55:26<fireonlive>Buizel: new year new you?
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03:13:59<fireonlive>the key betwee b ad m o my keyboard o my laptop is stuck dow so i'm fucked lol
03:14:04<fireonlive>it's quite aoyig
03:14:18<fireonlive>zxcvbm,./
03:16:04<fireonlive>yay
03:16:24<fireonlive>friend said slap bottom of laptop a bunch of times, so i closed it and did that.. bunch of stuff came all over on screen
03:16:31<fireonlive>but i can type all the ns i want
03:16:34<fireonlive>nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
03:24:42<Doranwen>Lol
03:49:02<fireonlive>“Building the future of X” https://blog.twitter.com/en_us/topics/company/2023/building-the-future-of-x
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04:25:23<fireonlive>170 channels/PMs open x_x
04:28:57<fireonlive>(158 channels, 12 queries)
04:29:05<fireonlive>i wish i could 'group' channels in the lounge
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04:46:33<@Buizel>fireonlive: Nah just temporary for the day
04:47:15<fireonlive>ah :)
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05:08:03<tech234a>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrFv1O4dbqY
05:13:36<fireonlive>ooh
05:16:02<fireonlive>very true :(
05:16:15<fireonlive>anyone have opinions on the new 'paid' search engines out there? kagi, et al.?
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05:18:14<@Buizel>I've been using Kagi (except the end of the billing period when I run out of quota and have to switch back to DDG) and it's fairly nice
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05:18:43<@Buizel>How good the results are is kinda nebulous but generally it does seem like there are less low-quality results
05:19:18<@Buizel>But (especially for stuff I don't already know how to search for) it still does return AI generated sites etc.
05:20:11<fireonlive>hmm good to know; I guess AI garbage is hard to escape for anyone
05:20:33<fireonlive>less low-quality/easier discoverability could be good though
05:20:48<fireonlive>i often find when i'm thinking of *something* and looking for it on google i really have to 'work at it' to bring it up
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05:22:08<@Buizel>Yeah
05:22:28<@Buizel>And also they just seem to be kind of... making it for the "Google has gotten worse" crowd
05:22:46<@Buizel>Like I think I saw something recently where they tried to automatically source shopping recommendations from Reddit
05:23:15<@Buizel>Like Reddit itself isn't going to be gamed off a cliff sooner or later, but at least it's still fairly nice
05:23:18<@Buizel>*niche
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05:26:39<fireonlive>oh that's interesting
05:26:43<fireonlive>will have to give it a try :)
05:26:47<fireonlive>tks
05:38:22<@Buizel>:)
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05:54:25<fireonlive>interesting side effect of a handle force change + nitter: https://nitter.projectsegfau.lt/x
05:54:54<fireonlive>you see both @X and @x12345678998765 (both named properly) under /x
05:55:21<fireonlive>something something, cache invalidation?
06:30:02<@Buizel>Also, funny thing about Kagi, you can tell who uses it by the kind of sites they manually block/promote https://kagi.com/stats?stat=leaderboard
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06:33:36<fireonlive>i love how pinterest and w3schools are at the top xD
06:34:04<fireonlive>(of blocked)
06:43:29<@Buizel>Yeah
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06:58:21<tech234a>that's a very interesting list!
06:58:41<fireonlive>indeed!
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09:28:50pabs guesses archiving people's (accidentally?) public music collections isn't done http://musique.ricorambo.su/
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15:19:36<imer>hopefully that sorts it, router firmware downgraded -_-
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15:50:04<fireonlive>https://twitter.com/xsphi/status/1686934436452155392?s=12
15:50:04<eggdrop>nitter: https://nitter.projectsegfau.lt/xsphi/status/1686934436452155392?s=12
15:50:07<fireonlive>😂
15:50:26<fireonlive>imer: fingers crossed! >_<
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15:52:24<imer>the interview about AT being an expensive hobby was not lying haha, now considering if I need to upgrade router as it seems to be unhappy with the amount of connections or whatever
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16:10:52<fireonlive>haha, very true
16:11:27<fireonlive>if only NAT wasn't a thing...
16:17:35<@JAA>Microsoft/Azure did another oopsie: https://www.tenable.com/security/research/tra-2023-25
16:21:06<nulldata>@fireonlive - heh between shitty APIs and sending bad commands to Voyager, what's going on a NASA? :P
16:26:35<nulldata>Wow that delay between report and partial fix - and still not fully patched. It'll be interesting to see what the bug is when its disclosed.
16:28:02<@JAA>But it's only cross-tenant data access, no big deal. :-)
16:28:22<fireonlive>nulldata: ikr? xP
16:28:52<fireonlive>ohh lord. glad I'm not on azure atm
16:28:56<fireonlive>wait
16:29:08<fireonlive>ok not on azure
16:29:10<fireonlive>x3
16:31:51<nulldata>fireonlive - heh that's the beauty of everyone going to The Cloud(tm). You yourself might not be on $CloudService, but companies you use and provide private data to very likely store your data on $CloudService!
16:32:55<fireonlive>x_x true
16:34:00<fireonlive>and if the $CloudService doesn't fuck it up like Microsoft then the SaaS will sometimes just accidentally public an whole bucket
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17:20:15<@JAA>-rss:#hackernews- Hackers manage to unlock Tesla software-locked features: https://electrek.co/2023/08/03/hackers-manage-unlock-tesla-software-locked-features/
17:20:19<@JAA>:-)
17:24:16<@JAA>Well, nothing unlocked there, but root access and key extraction is still neat.
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17:49:43<fireonlive>ooh, yes indeed
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19:46:52<fireonlive>-+rss- Brave cuts ties with Bing to offer its own image and video search results: https://www.theregister.com/2023/08/03/brave_cuts_ties_with_bing/ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36989769
19:46:56<fireonlive>interesting
19:46:59<fireonlive>(also hi video)
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