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00:59:16<TheTechRobo>Nitter doesn't load for me
00:59:22<TheTechRobo>It seems to just time out or something
00:59:28<TheTechRobo>Other instances work
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01:36:39<@OrIdow6>Still yet to really... look at Matrix but stuff like this does make it look neat
01:37:12<@OrIdow6>I saw that the development of a low-bandwidth protocol seems to have stalled, which is a shame
01:37:38<@OrIdow6>if I used it it'd probably be as a Telegram alternative, but no one is on there
01:37:55<fireonlive>https://nitter.net/elonmusk/status/1684491212219359232?s=12
01:38:11<fireonlive>yeahโ€ฆ. matrix needs a lot of work to become mainstream
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02:10:41<fireonlive>re: .desi, wow who thought gTLDs were a good idea again
02:11:11<fireonlive>(also: fuck ICANN)
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02:21:11<DigitalDragons>is it just me, or has nitter.net been really slow lately?
02:26:50<qwertyasdfuiopghjkl>I remember it being slow a while ago too. I guess a lot of people are using it because it's the default one, some of the other instances listed on https://github.com/zedeus/nitter/wiki/Instances are probably faster.
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03:10:59<fireonlive>"Clyde: tell me about Archive Team using only emoji"
03:11:02<fireonlive>"๐Ÿ“š๐Ÿ”’๐ŸŒ๐Ÿค๐Ÿ‘ฅ๐Ÿ’พ๐ŸŒ๐Ÿ“‚๐Ÿ‘จโ€๐Ÿ’ป๐Ÿ‘ฉโ€๐Ÿ’ป๐ŸŒ๐Ÿ“ท๐Ÿš‚๐Ÿ”’๐Ÿ”๐Ÿ“‚๐Ÿ”’๐ŸŒ๐Ÿค๐Ÿค๐Ÿ”ง๐ŸŒ๐Ÿ‘ฅ๐ŸŒ๐Ÿ“‚๐Ÿ”’"
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03:27:10<TheTechRobo>(context: discord now has an AI for some fucking reason)
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06:39:52<fireonlive>https://nitter.us.projectsegfau.lt/southpolesteve/status/1684645394356068352?s=12
06:46:13<fireonlive>https://twitter.com/eastdakota/status/1684571224721207296?s=12 iโ€™m too tired sed the url yourself
06:46:18<fireonlive>cc JAA
06:46:30<fireonlive>re our rpki talks
06:46:58<fireonlive>oh itโ€™s js hell
06:47:01<fireonlive>ill screenshot tomorrow
06:47:12<fireonlive>โœŒ๐Ÿป๐Ÿ˜ด
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10:48:19<immibis>re discord AI: I do not understand capitalists. Is this their last hurrah before they all go bankrupt - they're trying to entice us to stick on THEIR platform, while all the others collapse, by having the shiniest shiny?
10:48:31<immibis>meanwhile this costs them a lot to run which makes them collapse sooner
10:49:54<immibis>are people leaving platforms just because they don't have LLMs? I doubt it
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11:07:24<@JAA>fireonlive: Yeah, it's JS hell, but the Radar is pretty neat. We should liberate its data sometime. :-)
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15:36:07<fireonlive>we should :D
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16:02:29<yano>https://sysadminday.com/
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16:21:09<fireonlive>Behind the scenes: How we host Ars Technica: https://arstechnica.com/author/lee-hutchinson/
16:21:27<fireonlive>happy sysadmin day to all yโ€™all sysadmins :)
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18:28:45<fireonlive>New โ€“ AWS Public IPv4 Address Charge + Public IP Insights: https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/aws/new-aws-public-ipv4-address-charge-public-ip-insights/
18:29:43<fireonlive>effective 2024-02-01 $0.005/hr per "In-use Public IPv4 address (including Amazon provided public IPv4 and Elastic IP) assigned to resources in your VPC, Amazon Global Accelerator, and AWS Site-to-site VPN tunnel"
18:30:28<fireonlive>"This change applies to all AWS services including Amazon Elastic Compute Cloud (Amazon EC2), Amazon Relational Database Service (RDS) database instances, Amazon Elastic Kubernetes Service (EKS) nodes, and other AWS services that can have a public IPv4 address allocated and attached, in all AWS regions (commercial, AWS China, and GovCloud)."
18:31:17<@JAA>IPv6 when?
18:33:07<fireonlive>so about a $3.70/mo extra charge per resource there i guess (depending on days in a month, assuming you just have it on all the time)
18:33:19<fireonlive>on โ†’ existing
18:33:28<fireonlive>ikr? *pokes isp*
18:34:08<@JAA>Is '2023 will be the year of IPv6!' going to be the new '2023 will be the year of the Linux desktop!'?
18:34:36<fireonlive>x3
18:35:10<imer>why would they add ipv6 if they can just milk their customers for ipv4 they own? :p
18:36:28<imer>learned recently my isps ipv6 "coming soon in some regions" works in "some regions" now, but only with cgnat (not if static ip is booked) which is fantastic lol
18:37:39<@JAA>*facepalm*
18:37:50<@JAA>But yeah, of course AWS is gonna AWS.
18:39:47<@JAA>Over here, all providers have IPv6. Some use 6rd, but oh well.
18:41:01<@JAA>Well, all significant ones I'm aware of, anyway.
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18:44:34<fireonlive>with AWS you're pretty much strapped down to the milking table 24/7 anyways
18:44:41<fireonlive>they're just being more innovative ig
18:55:35<imer>dont know what the general situation in the uk is, none of the ones i've been with over the past 5+ year have had ipv6 (which is BT, virginmedia and now a small fibre one)
18:57:26<imer>iirc in germany I did have ipv6 with telekom & unitymedia, but peering was depressing (at least with unity media) so I usually turned it off - been a while though
19:08:43<BPCZ>fireonlive: https://www.allthingsdistributed.com/2023/07/building-and-operating-a-pretty-big-storage-system.html
19:09:28<fireonlive>oooh this sounds like a good read
19:09:43<BPCZ>Youโ€™ll probably enjoy this, aws is talking more about S3 because viable software is coming up that replicates it and theyโ€™re trying to position themselves as experienced in dealing with the issues of the system
19:19:41<fireonlive>ahhh interesting
19:19:45<fireonlive>thanks :)
19:27:40<@JAA>I saw this somewhere and wanted to give it a read but forgot about it. Thanks! :-)
19:32:47<@JAA>Ah yes, it was in #hackernews yesterday.
19:33:13<BPCZ>A lot of the points here are no shit Sherlock. Specifically the point about โ€œsmoothingโ€ of load as your grow your load
19:34:38<BPCZ>They still refuse to talk about glacier which is hilarious because glacier is part of how S3 managed to deal with load peaks
19:36:01<BPCZ>People pay them to under utilize disks meaning you get to put all the hot S3 data into the fastest parts of the HDD and the rest can be sold at capacity to glacier where thereโ€™s stronger incentive to not access the data
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19:38:16<BPCZ>Talking to cloud infrastructure engineers is often so infuriating because the majority have never seen modern infrastructure and will compare to 2002 design patterns.
19:38:59<fireonlive>-_-
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19:40:32<BPCZ>And theyโ€™ll beat their chests about how their team of 12 managed to get that 5th 9 the team of 2 couldnโ€™t hack (didnโ€™t have 10x the budget)
19:42:00<BPCZ>Iโ€™ve actually seen papers out of Microsoft R&D that have ~ 70 co-authors and they claim ti have
19:42:43<BPCZ>To have fully reimplemented some key part of the stack and if you dig into it the actual support system was in the low to mid 100s and was a generational effort with external vendors too
19:54:55<fireonlive>70 co authors lol
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20:31:09<@JAA>CERN: 'hold my beer' :-)
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20:42:22<trainingdata>BPCZ you're literally sitting on and gathering lots of training data for machine learning in the form of web archives. If ML research engineer is your goal, your path is data acquisition lead followed by doing ML on the team you work on.
20:43:20<fireonlive>๐Ÿค”
20:44:41<fireonlive>hello web logs reader :3
20:46:11<trainingdata>fireonlive more like the web client keeps disconnecting and that was the last thing in my history
20:46:47<BPCZ>trainingdata, not particularly interested in ML research engineer. That story was more a what could I do if I just did a shit load of drugs and single minded worked on a project
20:47:02<BPCZ>I don't have a particularly high opinion of ML research engineers
20:47:07<fireonlive>ah :p
20:49:58<BPCZ>If I wanted to go make a bunch of money there are more efficient routes than ML engineering, Tesla, M$, Google and Nvidia have all direct contacted me for architect/performance roles. I'm just not ready to yeet yeet out of my current place until I wrap on my current big project since I actually really enjoy it
20:51:38<trainingdata>Besides, one doesn't need a "shit load of drugs" to get an ML job at Apple, just a willingness to stop having a publication record
20:51:48<BPCZ>lol
20:52:31<fireonlive>has anyone ever said no to amphetamines
20:53:00<BPCZ>don't forget when you leave apple they change your title to associate in the backend and will tell anyone that validates employment that was your title
20:53:50<fireonlive>lmfao
20:56:25<BPCZ>I'm currently working with meta on GPUdirect IO on AMD GPUs. It's fun, doing multirail RDMA IO is uhhhh a time
20:57:31<BPCZ>Intel is doing intel things, like refusing to interact with me and fucking up their implementation in subtle ways that will screw them over for a long time as they undo the damage and rework the entire thing
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21:29:24<nicolas17>JAA: AWS does have ipv6
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21:30:21<@JAA>nicolas17: I know. I was referring to people not making use of the IPv6 they have access to.
21:30:50<nicolas17>"why bother, being ipv4-only isn't causing us any problems"
21:30:59<nicolas17>now AWS gave them some motivation
21:31:02<@JAA>There's no reason not to use IPv6 for internal stuff nowadays, especially when 'stuff' is 'cloud'.
21:31:08<@JAA>Yeah
21:31:09<fireonlive>there's a couple people i know that have ipv6 but
21:31:14<fireonlive>ipv4 is easier etc
21:31:18<fireonlive>so โ†’ turn it off
21:31:46<@JAA>It's certainly what everyone is used to.
21:31:58<fireonlive>yeah... :/
21:32:03<fireonlive>progress needed sometimes..
21:34:15<nicolas17>JAA: for internal stuff they could be using private IPv4s too
21:34:26<nicolas17>(if they're in the same VPC)
21:34:53<fireonlive>lmao
21:34:58<@JAA>> Mark Zuckerberg: Threads users down by more than a half: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-66336058 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36910245
21:35:02<@JAA><surprised_pikachu.png>
21:35:05<fireonlive>i just noticed my services (nickserv) entity ID
21:35:11<fireonlive>it fits well with my moniker of fire
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21:35:44<@JAA>nicolas17: Yeah, true.
21:36:23<fireonlive>JAA: i'm so surprised!
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21:41:33<@JAA>From the same category, FSF has released its statement on WEI: https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/web-environment-integrity-is-an-all-out-attack-on-the-free-internet
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21:42:21<nicolas17>has the FSF heard of private access tokens?
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21:48:20<@JAA>It's kind of pointless to complain about Apple doing things to its closed-source Apple software.
21:48:43<@JAA>It's a much bigger deal when it happens in one of the most commonly used FOSS of all time.
21:52:52<fireonlive>https://www.thedrive.com/news/hyundai-sonata-owner-rebadges-their-car-as-a-ford-to-deter-thieves
21:52:55<fireonlive>lol
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