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| 00:32:18 | <pabs> | anyone know of a mastodon instance related to FOSS that accepts bots? fossjobs.net had an account posting the RSS to fosstodon, but thats apparently not allowed |
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| 02:30:30 | <myself> | there's always botsin.space |
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| 18:42:45 | <Doranwen> | Oh joy, of all the days for the Mint forums to be down, it's when I'm trying to find help for why I suddenly can't send any emails. (And neither of the two threads I want to look at are in the WBM.) |
| 18:43:21 | <Doranwen> | It's giving me a "sending of the message failed / error writing temporary file" error and all the other search results are like a decade old and for Windows systems. |
| 18:50:16 | <@JAA> | Have you checked Google's cache? The search results I'm getting are there. |
| 18:50:34 | <@JAA> | Aka prepend 'https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:' to your URL |
| 18:52:36 | <Doranwen> | Oh, it's the usual - my root folder's too full. |
| 18:52:46 | <Doranwen> | I didn't plan it very well when I set this up ages and ages ago. |
| 18:52:48 | <Doranwen> | *partition |
| 18:53:07 | | Doranwen ran through the set of quick "free up space" commands she has and freed up a few hundred mb which let it work. |
| 18:53:37 | <Doranwen> | I could tell right away as soon as I opened up a terminal window - it complained about not being able to set stuff, and I was getting errors elsewhere about issues with privileges. |
| 18:54:01 | <Doranwen> | I think I need to figure out how to partition something to take some of the space off of / |
| 18:54:28 | <@JAA> | Ah yes, that'd do it. |
| 18:54:41 | <@JAA> | Reminds me that I need to resize my laptop's rootfs sometime. |
| 18:56:09 | <that_lurker> | I like to just wait for linux to inform me shits full and nothing works. |
| 18:57:40 | <fireonlive> | reminds me of that OOS that crashed all my grab-sites |
| 18:57:43 | <fireonlive> | xP |
| 18:57:46 | <fireonlive> | 'whoops hello' |
| 19:01:22 | | Doranwen goes to see how she has the partitions set up again |
| 19:03:11 | <Doranwen> | Yeah, swap, root, and home. Swap's nearly full, home's the one with the free space - but I've never tried resizing a partition with data on it before. |
| 19:04:07 | <Doranwen> | And I don't think I can do it without rewriting everything - because I can't make free space at the *beginning* of the partition, only the end. |
| 19:04:56 | <@JAA> | If it fails to write temporary files... split out /tmp into its own partition (or use a tmpfs if you have the RAM). |
| 19:05:39 | <@JAA> | Or as a quick-and-dirty fix, you could try to set the TMPDIR env variable for Thunderbird. Not entirely sure whether it respects that, but it really should. |
| 19:09:29 | <Doranwen> | One page I came across suggested creating a /tmp file, rather than a separate partition. I was like, what?? |
| 19:09:59 | <Doranwen> | A /tmp partition of its own ought to be doable. |
| 19:10:11 | <@JAA> | Yeah, that's another hacky option. |
| 19:10:26 | <@JAA> | File on another partition, then bind-mount it to /tmp. |
| 19:10:54 | <Doranwen> | Well, that would certainly be easier than creating a new partition. Question is, are there tradeoffs? |
| 19:11:16 | <@JAA> | Partition changes are just always a pain if you're already using the full disk. I'm using LVM and haven't allocated the entire disk, so I can always grow or create extra partitions as needed. |
| 19:12:21 | <@JAA> | It's possible to shrink partitions, but make sure you have a good backup before you try it. :-) |
| 19:14:22 | <@JAA> | s/bind/loop/ above, bind-mounting is replicating a directory instead. |
| 19:15:48 | | Doranwen files the info away |
| 19:15:51 | <@JAA> | Loop-mounting has some overhead since you're effectively stacking file systems. I'd say it isn't ideal for /tmp. But it would work and solve your immediate problems. |
| 19:16:33 | <Doranwen> | Well, I cleared old logs and got rid of 200 mb and that got me out of the errors. |
| 19:16:41 | <Doranwen> | But this is likely to reoccur. |
| 19:17:44 | <fireonlive> | i was running DiscordChatExporter in 'fancy' mode with the progress bars etc and it almost filled up / on my primary friend-colo server |
| 19:17:56 | <fireonlive> | just 20GB of logs of it redrawing the bar graphs i assume |
| 19:18:56 | <Doranwen> | I supposedly had 1.5 gb free but it didn't like that for some reason. |
| 19:19:52 | <Doranwen> | I remember when I had 5 gb free - it keeps shrinking, and I can't figure out what's taking up the extra space. All the programs I've checked and rechecked, uninstalled anything I don't need, etc. |
| 19:20:55 | <Doranwen> | Anyway, I think I'll try the /tmp file method later - I've got to run in a few minutes, but that sounds promising. Thanks for the info! |
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| 22:11:31 | <@rewby> | I was just thinking about the whole reddit api debacle. Some people had mentioned ideas in some threads about federated reddit alternatives and I had some theorycrafting in the shower. |
| 22:11:55 | <@rewby> | I was thinking "what if we had individual "subreddit" servers and much users had home servers kinda like how mastodon does it" |
| 22:12:15 | <@rewby> | Then your home server could provide you a view into the subreddits they peered with |
| 22:12:36 | <@rewby> | The home server provides the identity |
| 22:12:44 | <@rewby> | The subreddit servers provide the community and posts and such |
| 22:12:58 | <@rewby> | This way moderators of a subreddit could still, you know, moderate |
| 22:13:08 | <@rewby> | And users could be free to access using whatever tools they liked |
| 22:13:16 | <@rewby> | And then I realised: we had this years ago |
| 22:13:26 | <@rewby> | It was forum software with the original openid |
| 22:13:37 | <@rewby> | Your openid provider provided the common identity |
| 22:13:52 | <@rewby> | And each forum was hosted by/for the community that lived on it |
| 22:14:20 | <@rewby> | The only really new thing in this idea is a single unified interface that allows you to view many independently hosted forums |
| 22:14:28 | <@rewby> | And even then that's not really true |
| 22:14:38 | <@rewby> | It's really just a unified api for accessing data from these forums |
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| 22:23:46 | <@JAA> | Tapatalk? |
| 22:24:53 | <@JAA> | They're trying to establish a walled garden for an open ecosystem, but still, it's something like that. You can self-host your forum, and people can access it with the Tapatalk app in a unified interface. |
| 22:27:16 | <flashfire42> | Only problem tapatalk fucking sucks |
| 22:28:52 | <@JAA> | That's what I've heard. Never actually tried it since I have no interest in closed-source software. |
| 22:29:45 | <@JAA> | I did use the API before to archive some forums though, and it's pretty nice to get the data in a consistent format across different forum softwares. |
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| 23:10:09 | <threedeeitguy> | What about lemmy? I've seen lots posted about it but not had a chance to look into it at all. |
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