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| 03:19:37 | <@JAA> | I don't understand how Seagate Exos can be the cheapest HDD (per TB, obviously) on the market here. At the moment, seven of the ten cheapest models are Exos. Just doesn't make any sense to me. |
| 03:21:42 | <@JAA> | The remaining three are two Toshiba Enterprise Capacity models and a Seagate Barracuda. So nine of the ten cheapest drives come with a 5-year warranty...? |
| 03:22:26 | <andrew> | JAA: how are they compared to external drives? |
| 03:23:40 | <@JAA> | andrew: This is all hard drives, internal and external. Externals are a bit more expensive here, the cheapest one is on spot 23. |
| 03:24:21 | <andrew> | JAA: well, do you believe in the efficient markets hypothesis? |
| 03:27:28 | <andrew> | I think the best explanation is a combination of Seagate oversupplying your region, Seagate having a somewhat worse reputation, the hard drives are actually expected to be worse in reliability, corporations having a better channel to buy from, corporations having restrictions on channels to buy from, and good old consumers being irrational (like |
| 03:27:28 | <andrew> | thinking that they can't use Exos "server" drives in their computer) |
| 03:27:50 | <andrew> | that is assuming you're only looking at SATA drives |
| 03:29:52 | <@JAA> | The last one is probably the most relevant one here, because everything else should still apply to consumer models etc. A few years ago, Seagate's SMR drives, internal and external, were frequently the cheapest. |
| 03:30:23 | <@JAA> | All drives, but there are only 4 SAS among the top 24. |
| 03:31:37 | <@JAA> | But these are prices from webshops geared towards individual people, mostly. A business wanting to buy a thousand drives would use other channels of course. |
| 03:32:08 | <@JAA> | So the dominance of SATA is expected. |
| 03:32:54 | <andrew> | have you checked PCPartPicker for your region? |
| 03:33:07 | <CrispyAlice2> | No one every considers the individual wanting to buy thousands of drives, so very sad |
| 03:33:12 | <CrispyAlice2> | *ever |
| 03:34:30 | <@JAA> | PCPartPicker doesn't cover Switzerland, but it looks pretty much the same for Germany, and same on similar comparison sites specifically from Germany. |
| 03:35:30 | <@JAA> | CrispyAlice2: I know right, same with supermarkets limiting how many of those 2 kg strawberry boxes you can buy. Pfff. |
| 03:36:18 | <andrew> | JAA: I am suddenly concerned about your use for multiple kilograms of strawberries |
| 03:36:26 | <@JAA> | :-) |
| 03:36:40 | <CrispyAlice2> | All I'm saying is that I should be able to own a supercomputer without spending any money on it, is that really too much to ask? |
| 03:37:06 | <@JAA> | It just makes me chuckle every time I see that little note about 'common houshold quantities only' on some sales. |
| 03:37:12 | <@JAA> | household* |
| 03:37:26 | <@JAA> | Apparently they had an issue with people buying large quantities for resale on markets or similar. |
| 03:38:59 | <andrew> | CrispyAlice2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45X4VP8CGtk |
| 03:41:45 | <CrispyAlice2> | damn I really need to get on my grindset |
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| 06:35:31 | <aGerman> | JAA been buying Toshiba 18TB enterprise disks lately stuff got so cheap |
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| 20:03:08 | <nicolas17> | https://nso.group/@qwertyoruiop/110304522631410637 |
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