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04:24:45<pabs>https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/11/11/1063162/twitters-imminent-collapse-could-wipe-out-vast-records-of-recent-human-history/
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21:35:06<IDK>JAA: could there be a twitter project just in case
21:35:19<IDK>If this gets worse
21:40:22<joepie91|m>> Part of what makes Twitter’s potential collapse uniquely challenging is that the “digital public square” has been built on the servers of a private company, says O’Connor’s colleague Elise Thomas, senior OSINT analyst with the ISD. It’s a problem we’ll have to deal with many times over the coming decades, she says: “This is perhaps the first really big test of that.”
21:40:31<joepie91|m>jeez. if only there was some way to prevent this. /s
21:40:48<@OrIdow6>J A A knows all
21:41:02<jess>bropie
21:41:25<jess>federation doesnt work btw
21:41:29joepie91|m waves
21:41:37<joepie91|m>hm?
21:41:45<jess>not a solution to anything without significant technical advances
21:41:51<joepie91|m>oh
21:41:55<joepie91|m>that's not what I was implying
21:42:00<jess>oic
21:42:06<jess>i hate federation anyway
21:42:19<hexa->oooofff
21:42:21<joepie91|m>this was more about the "running public services on privatized for-profit infrastructure and then calling them a town square" part
21:42:36<jess>also i am currently begrudgingly using mastodon because it's the next best option
21:42:42<hexa->good.
21:42:56<jess>masto sux tho
21:43:01<hexa->bad.
21:43:06<jess>and gargron is a bit of a tyrant
21:43:10<hexa->oh.
21:43:32<joepie91|m>people who love fedi 🤝 people who hate fedi
21:43:35<joepie91|m> hating gargron
21:43:40<jess>i sat in on a meeting between the masto project and the EU about EU Voice, on the topic of moderatiob
21:43:43<jess>moderation
21:44:18<jess>gargron said my solution to something wasnt a good idea (because he is a silly website man) and someone else from the project liked it and ran with it
21:44:21<jess>dummies
21:45:07<jess>the problem was "we cant curate what toots appear under our toots and we're getting illegal replies"
21:45:31<jess>you can curate what toots appear under your toots if someone is looking from your own UI
21:46:37<jess>the solution is a homeserver will seek an approval signature from the homeserver you're replying to, then federate the reply with a approval signature if it got one, or federate it without one and default masto UI behaviour could be to not immediately show unapproved replies
21:46:47<jess>a la twitter's "show hidden replies"
21:47:10<jess>and you can (attempt to) federate approval revokations later if you have to
21:49:15jess infodump
21:49:21<jess>i like moderation
21:49:43<jess>joepie91|m: are you on activitypub somewhere
21:50:10<jess>im @jesopo@chaos.social
21:50:50<joepie91|m>jess: aye, @joepie91@pixie.town
21:51:26<jess>f0x ♥
21:51:40<joepie91|m>ofc :p
21:53:08<IDK>OrIdow6: AB is a temporary solution, but not scalable at all, (and only limited to voiced+)
21:55:59<IDK>and also there is SPN which is probably overloaded with other requests
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