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14:24:32<joepie91|m>Ryz: to elaborate a little more on the oplosmiddelspecialist thing: it apparently started as a small company that was literally run from the kitchen table, with chemicals stacked in a storage rack next to the washing machine, sort of a hobby of the owner that got out of hand
14:25:02<joepie91|m>with the owner nerding out over all the safety procedures and the industry dynamics etc.
14:25:43<Ryz>Businesses like this have to start somewhere, so damn o.o;
14:25:45<joepie91|m>and then they decided "hm it's weirdly difficult to source chemicals even if you have a good reason for it" and so they turned it into a proper(tm) supplier, eventually moved stuff to a warehouse and everything
14:26:19<joepie91|m>and they very very rapidly grew, being basically the only chemical supplier where you could just order almost any chemicals in small quantities like any other webshop (though some chemicals did require documentation to order)
14:26:53<joepie91|m>and so this tiny mom-and-pop chemical shop quickly turned into a crucial supplier for all sorts of companies, schools, etc.
14:27:00<Ryz>o_O;
14:27:02<joepie91|m>it
14:27:06<joepie91|m>it's a kind of absurd story*
14:27:10<Ryz>And then they just bankrupted? Wha? S:
14:27:24<joepie91|m>yeah so apparently the owner fell severely ill and couldn't work for months
14:27:29<joepie91|m>and things started falling apart
14:27:43<joepie91|m>the exact story is a bit fuzzy, I had to source all of this from reviews
14:27:59<joepie91|m>one review claimed it was cancer
14:28:14<Ryz>Oh, oh dear :C
14:28:26<joepie91|m>and I suspect that that resulted in a wave of cancellations and stock management issues that eventually toppled the company
14:29:11<joepie91|m>so yeah, bit of a sad story really
14:29:49<joepie91|m>and rather... unique
14:30:03<joepie91|m>and it's why the site looks so unusual as well, it seems to be a homegrown thing
14:31:11<joepie91|m>that combined with the controversy they got involved in, is why I figured it'd probably be good to archive
14:31:24<Ryz>Real good find joepie91|m
14:31:53<Ryz>This is definitely something that I'm not sure it'll come up on the news in general, or their local news~
14:32:27<joepie91|m>probably not
14:32:57<joepie91|m>I do wonder what's going to happen next, whether the company gets a 'reboot'
14:33:02<joepie91|m>because they've definitely left a gap in the market
14:33:24<joepie91|m>and if my understanding of the cause is correct, there was nothing wrong with the business model itself
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17:53:35<@JAA>TIL nsa.gov uses Let's Encrypt. :-)
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20:42:22<Jake>haha, there's a lot of shit on that SAN
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22:09:30Doranwen wonders if there's a way to get a Vbox window back when it vanishes from the screen and taskbar - but is apparently still running… somewhere…
22:24:01<TheTechRobo>Can't you open it from virtualbox's UI ?
22:24:06<TheTechRobo>Or am I too used to virt-manager?
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23:46:31<Doranwen>TheTechRobo: There's a Show button - but it doesn't work when the window doesn't apparently exist in the first place (even though it still says the machine is running and all)
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23:52:28<Doranwen>yeah, it's so weird, I can def. see it in the processes - the specific vbox - but it's vanished from the taskbar, like it doesn't have a window anymore
23:52:46<Doranwen>maybe the real question is - is there a command that'll force the window to show or recreate itself or whatever?
23:52:55<Doranwen>I had this happen once before and thought it was a fluke