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02:35:31Doranwen is trying to figure out how to change the default screenshot name in Mint 20.3 and the only thing she can find is an askubuntu thread from 10 years ago…
02:35:52<Doranwen>a comment from 2016 said: "Whoever thought it a good idea to hardcode screenshot names in C, requiring a recompile of the *entire* desktop environment? Had no one ever thought that a user might want to change the default naming?"
02:35:58<Doranwen>(my thoughts exactly)
02:37:16<Jake>That seems very dumb, haha.
02:37:38<Doranwen>it does appear that someone set up a custom keyboard shortcut to trigger tagging a screenshot and then reconfigured the name - but I don't enough about the way the naming is set to do it (I'm trying to figure out how to set it more like the way older Mint systems did it, with Screenshot-1, Screenshot-2 - bonus if I can figure out how to do 3-digit numbers every time, like -001, -002, etc.)
02:37:48<Doranwen>see what I mean: https://askubuntu.com/questions/55204/how-can-i-change-the-default-name-for-the-screenshots-made-by-gnome-screenshot
02:39:26<@OrIdow6>Why do you need to recompile the whole desktop environment?
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02:39:57<Doranwen>I don't know why they said that, my agreement is with the rest of that comment
02:40:17<Doranwen>because honestly, why wouldn't someone realize users might want to change the default…
02:40:21<Doranwen>like me right now, lol
02:40:34<Doranwen>and as far as I can tell, there's absolutely no config file to edit
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02:45:41<Doranwen>so it's definitely hardcoded somewhere
02:50:27<@OrIdow6>It looks like it's hardcoded in the file that was linked in the AskUbuntu thread
02:51:05<Doranwen>whyyyyy, lol
02:51:23Doranwen would be more than happy to edit a config file :P
02:51:32<Doranwen>but to not even give the option?
02:51:33<@OrIdow6>I can see why they'd think that's overkill
02:51:39<@OrIdow6>For level of configurability
02:52:09<Doranwen>this issue looks related to that - but is still open: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-screenshot/-/issues/44
02:52:29<Doranwen>so I'm guessing I'm going to need to figure out an alternate workaround
02:52:41<@OrIdow6>You could write a script to rename them
02:52:48<@OrIdow6>Or you could modify gnome-screenshot
02:53:12<Doranwen>I'm not sure I know how to modify the program itself - that's definitely getting into realms I've *never* touched
02:54:57<Doranwen>I know I definitely need the renaming to happen right at the time the screenshot's being taken… since I want to use numbering and one number depends on the previous - and there are times I'll remove one screenshot from *in the middle* and the previous behavior of the program was that it would "fill in" the gap by automatically naming the next screenshot to whatever number was missing
02:55:07<Doranwen>I really liked that, it was very handy
02:56:42<Doranwen>though it might honestly be *simpler* in some ways to modify the program here!
02:56:54<Doranwen>it is in a VM after all, if I mess it up I can always revert to an older version of it
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02:58:48<Doranwen>heh, apparently Mint doesn't even use gnome-screenshot, but whatever it uses looks the same and behaves the same - what DOES it use
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02:59:31<Doranwen>oh, mate-screenshot, of course
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03:03:01<Doranwen>yeah, I do not know what I am doing enough to do any of this
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03:03:15<Doranwen>and the solutions for gnome-screenshot in feeding it the file name do not work for mate-screenshot
03:03:30<Doranwen>I think it's time for a post on the Mint forums, see if someone there has any good ideas
03:08:56<bitbit>Hi. I'm looking for software that will do the following: keep a history of metadata for large media files. i.e. keep the old names after I rename them, same for metadata like modified date, (and optionally) resolution, etc. AND I'd like to be able to specify in this history when I've made a derivative of a file. e.g. exported the audio file out of an mkv, made a resized version of a video, merged files together with mergemkv/ffmpeg, etc. I
03:08:56<bitbit>believe git-annex can do the former, but do you know of software (or a way to use git-annex) to support the latter?
03:12:19<bitbit>I thought I'd ask here because I haven't heard anyone even use the term 'derivative of a file' outside of the circle of archive.org/archiveteam :p
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11:36:51<thuban>oops, they're gone
11:37:47<thuban>but my recommendation in this case would have been to use git-annex's arbitrary metadata support https://git-annex.branchable.com/metadata/
11:41:38<@Sanqui>since this is -ot, I can go ahead and ask, is anybody here using git-annex for large-scale organization of their data/files?
11:42:46<@Sanqui>I used it for a few years for my music collection, but it was frustrating in some ways (poor support on FAT32, some programs hated the symlinks etc) and overall I didn't feel it was worth the hassle so I stopped using it, but sometimes I dream about putting everything under git-annex once I redo my NAS situation
11:45:08<thuban>i've experimented but never used it 'in prod'. (i use beets for music. i suppose you could do both?)
11:50:07<@Sanqui>thanks, that's the second time I'm hearing about beets, should check it out. My main deal with music is I don't really care about artist metadata in the files and want to use my own directory structure + ideally tagging system
11:51:49<thuban>that's actually what brought me to beets! i wanted my own directory structure and felt that most music players/organizers served me poorly (i have a lot of non-music audio that's a bad fit for music-based schemes)
11:54:10<thuban>i don't use a lot of custom tagging, but beets will let you define a completely custom directory scheme based on any metadata fields you want
11:54:34<@Sanqui>I have a lot of video game music and lately I homebrewed a script to download music from youtube. I already downloaded 1k+ tracks with this method and don't yet have a good way to create playlists
11:55:03<@Sanqui>(especially since it's pending an overhaul to use channel ids instead of names, and create symlinks for the channel names instead)
11:57:04<@Sanqui>I was especially hoping to get audio fingerprinting to help me identify dupes (e.g. a song downloaded from youtube and a hq version downloaded elsewhere)
11:58:45<thuban>https://beets.readthedocs.io/en/stable/plugins/chroma.html
12:06:34<systwi_>I've been in the process of rolling my own data management software as my situation is rather unique. git-annex didn't seem to fit my needs as it expects to always be able to write to the data storage media.
12:07:32<systwi_>I implement WORM tapes and BD-Rs in my data collection so this wasn't doable. I, too, had problems with some programs and symlinks, especially when trying to store a "naked" git repo _inside_ of the git-annex repo. The symlinks conflicted.
12:08:43<systwi_>I haven't finished my script yet for multiple reasons, and I've restarted it a handful of times.
12:09:50<systwi_>The data, in my case, is tracked in a Postgres database and this management software I'm creating will interface with it; adding records for each file and pairing file duplicates together, showing which location they are on which disk.
12:10:33<systwi_>It is by _no means_ easy, hahaha, but it seems to be what I'm looking for. Not sure if you're in a similar situation as me.
12:11:29<systwi_>I plan on open-sourcing the code (GPL most likely) once it's completed.
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12:52:15<@Sanqui>I like the sound of it, but it does sound pretty complicated. I'd read a blog post writeup when you're closer to completion!
13:27:52<systwi_>Sounds like a good idea, I've never written a blog before. I'll track my progress with it! :-D
13:41:24<systwi>NEMA 1-15P _is_ safe, you guys! https://transfer.sh/inline/zDtd3s/us-mains.png
13:41:36<systwi>...as long as you don't touch those prongs...
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21:34:40<bitbit>Hi. Is there any best practice for keeping track of derivatives of files?
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