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02:15:59<drexler_>https://twitter.com/jd_pressman/status/1543778382894141441
02:16:36<drexler_>Excited to share my new work using AI to produce tons of public domain imagery.
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03:12:45<systwi>Can someone else confirm that hovering over the photo of Kim on http://www.uriminzokkiri.com/ changes the cursor to a single white pixel?
03:13:09<systwi>If it isn't just a strange thing on my end, I have a theory as to why this was done...
03:13:19<systwi>assuming it was intentional.
03:14:13<systwi>I'm using Firefox 91, by the way.
03:14:21<michaelblob>can confirm
03:15:30<thuban>.no-pointer { cursor: url(../../assets/images/no-pointer.cur), pointer; }
03:17:26<systwi>Ahh, thanks for the clarification.
03:18:06<systwi>My theory as to why this is the case is because any photos of "our glorious leader" are not to have his face/image obscured.
03:19:22<systwi>I saw it once in a documentary, a guard checked a tourist's camera and ensured the photo they were taking of Kim Il-sung's portrait was not to have lens flare, a hand in the way, etc. or be out of focus.
03:23:21<thuban>curious that a single white pixel would be preferred over either a normal cursor or a simple `cursor: none`...
03:25:20<@JAA>If in doubt, it's some sort of shitty hack for IE6 or similar.
03:25:58<systwi>A normal cursor (assuming, 'leave the system's default cursor alone') has a significantly higher chance of covering his face. "cursor: none" would make more sense, but yeah, JAA's probably onto something.
03:27:16<systwi>Possibly a hack for their Naenara browser which is a fork of an oooooold version of Firefox.
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03:43:38<thuban>til: uri values were included in the initial specification of the 'cursor' property in css2 (1998), but the 'none' keyword (among others) didn't make it in until the css3-ui candidate rec (2004)
03:45:49<thuban>cursory googling doesn't reveal exactly which version of firefox naenara is based on, but if it's between 1.5 and 3, you may be right about browser support
03:49:22<thuban>curious regardless (since they could have chosen to use `url` with a completely empty image) that one pixel is apparently the maximum acceptable concession to usability
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03:51:44<systwi>thuban: Firefox 3.5, specifically, so that's probably it.
03:52:03<systwi>Referencing: https://richardg867.wordpress.com/2015/01/01/notes-on-red-star-os-3-0/
03:53:03<thuban>well, no; if that's correct then the browser would support both `url` and `none`.
03:53:26<systwi>Ohh, I misread it. I thought you meant 3.x.
03:54:03<systwi>There is an earlier version of Red Star OS that more than likely utilized an even older Firefox version, so it might be a workaround for those still rolling the previous OS release.
03:54:23<thuban>possible!
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03:57:05<systwi>I'm curious too. From what I gather, theoretically, they could've made the cursor 1px by 1px and made it entirely transparent and it would've still been compatible, maybe (probably what you were saying earlier).
03:57:22<thuban>quite
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12:48:24<tech_exorcist>i was wondering, are there any regular dumps of the archiveteam wiki available for download, similarly to how the Wikimedia Foundation has https://dumps.wikimedia.org ?
12:50:38<@JAA>tech_exorcist: https://wiki.archiveteam.org/dumps/
12:50:58<tech_exorcist>thanks
12:50:58<@JAA>Generated daily, only the most recent one is available for download, the others are on IA.
12:51:54<tech_exorcist>https://archive.org/details/archiveteam.org_wiki_dumps_2022 here, i guess?
12:52:22<@JAA>Correct
12:52:27<tech_exorcist>cool, thanks
12:52:42<tech_exorcist>why aren't they available for downlaod from IA though=
12:52:43<tech_exorcist>*?
12:52:45<@JAA>I upload them periodically, so it'll be a while before the recent ones show up.
12:53:15<tech_exorcist>no, i mean
12:53:25<@JAA>arkiver: ^ Needs to be moved to another collection.
12:53:31<@JAA>Also the other wiki dump items.
12:53:59<tech_exorcist>under https://archive.org/download/archiveteam.org_wiki_dumps_2022, all the .gz files are marked with the padlock icon and are unavailable for download
12:54:30<@JAA>Yeah, archiveteam_inbox items are locked until they get moved to their proper destination.
12:54:45<tech_exorcist>oh, i see
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19:09:38<systwi>JAA: How come they're locked from even being downloaded? There's probably a good reason why, but I'm not sure what it could be.
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19:20:22<Jake>I believe arkiv er hasn't moved them to another collection yet?
19:21:55<systwi_>Jake: Yes, it was noted earlier they still need to move the item elsewhere.
19:22:07<Jake>well, that's why :-)
19:23:42<systwi_>Right, I get that, but I don't understand why the downloading restriction is in place.
19:24:58<systwi_>I'm curious more so on the purpose for the restriction and not necessarily the reason why it's locked, if that helps clarify.
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21:12:04<TheTechRobo>systwi_: Might be so that items that will be moved to a download-locked collection aren't temporarily available.
21:13:44<systwi>Ah, that could be it.
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