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| 02:07:25 | <TheTechRobo> | <pabs> often they have an online thing that gives out codes that you can enter to allow it |
| 02:07:26 | <TheTechRobo> | why |
| 02:07:40 | <TheTechRobo> | just...why |
| 02:08:09 | <pabs> | maybe so they can block stolen devices? no idea |
| 02:08:17 | <@JAA> | I'm quite happy with the Fairphone, which has none of this bullshit. |
| 02:08:31 | <TheTechRobo> | Yeah, I'd use it for my phone, if it shipped to Canada. |
| 02:08:41 | <@JAA> | Also, if you have an LG phone, welp, you're fucked since a few months as they shut down that online thing forever. :-) |
| 02:08:51 | <TheTechRobo> | Instead I'm planning on seeing if I can rig something up with a cellular module for Raspberry Pi and a touchscreen. |
| 02:09:25 | <TheTechRobo> | It's more work than a phone, but fuck big companies. |
| 02:09:36 | <@JAA> | Oh, they still only ship within Europe. Huh... |
| 02:09:57 | <pabs> | I get the feeling that Fairphone don't really get Free Software. they are definitely good on the side of ethical manufacturing tho |
| 02:10:14 | <@JAA> | Maybe look into Purism, I think those guys are based in the US. |
| 02:10:32 | <@JAA> | Yeah, the firmware will never be FOSS, sadly. |
| 02:10:37 | <pabs> | or PinePhone, their devices are cheaper than Purism |
| 02:10:43 | <TheTechRobo> | I still want to try to build a phone anyway, just because. Something to do. :-) |
| 02:10:53 | <TheTechRobo> | pabs: I'm skeptical about the Pinephone. Is it any good? |
| 02:11:37 | <pabs> | they are much more community oriented than Purism, not sure about the hardware though, haven't got any. people are using it |
| 02:12:06 | <TheTechRobo> | > Be aware that the Pinephone is certainly not ready for daily use yet. Stuff like the camera not working, phone or internet in some cases not working and very short battery life makes this device an adventure but certainly not a smartphone replacement yet. |
| 02:12:18 | <TheTechRobo> | https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/pinebook-pro-review-will-progress/2287/20?u=thetechrobo |
| 02:12:21 | <pabs> | one of the Pinephone modem processors even runs Linux, folks are working on replacing the proprietary stack under Linux on that processor |
| 02:13:06 | <pabs> | yeah, its definitely in an in-progress state |
| 02:13:27 | <pabs> | just like openmoko perpetually was back in the day |
| 02:14:29 | <TheTechRobo> | Anyway, if I figure out the AT module and finally figure out my pre-order Raspberry Pi 4 (CanaKit support says I didn't pay. Didn't even send me a notification, it was supposed to get here in February. Fuck you, Canakit.) it'll feel more rewarding than a pre-built Linux phone. :-) |
| 02:15:27 | <TheTechRobo> | What's more (about the pre-order I "didn't pay for"), I ordered it in the same session as everything else, and that stuff arrived. |
| 02:16:09 | <@JAA> | Speaking of RPi, any experiences with OSHW alternatives like Libre Computer's or Olimex's devices? |
| 02:16:37 | <TheTechRobo> | Sorry, I'm a bit grouchy. My dad stored critical business files on a non-backed-up hard drive and it's my job to fix it and Windows isn't behaving and the filesystem is corrupt so I need to boot into Windows but I don't have an ISO handy and my internet sucks. |
| 02:16:50 | <TheTechRobo> | Yay. |
| 02:17:14 | <TheTechRobo> | JAA: No, haven't tried anything like that. |
| 02:17:32 | <TheTechRobo> | Is it compatible with Pi HATs? |
| 02:17:44 | <TheTechRobo> | I really with RPis were open-hardware. |
| 02:18:09 | <@JAA> | Probably not, but no idea really. |
| 02:18:20 | <@JAA> | I have neither an RPi nor one of those. |
| 02:18:21 | <TheTechRobo> | Yeah, then I probably won't. |
| 02:18:42 | <TheTechRobo> | Those devices aren't that helpful IMO without something to use. |
| 02:18:47 | <TheTechRobo> | Otherwise they're just a mini-computer. |
| 02:18:48 | <@JAA> | Though I'm thinking about getting one from Libre Computer. Poor availability though. |
| 02:18:52 | <TheTechRobo> | Which is nice, but I don'T need it. |
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| 02:19:51 | <@JAA> | Yeah, that's what I'm looking for, a small, low-power, always-on computer that I can run at home to control things in the home network that aren't constantly powered on or connected. |
| 02:20:26 | <TheTechRobo> | That makes sense. |
| 02:21:44 | <@JAA> | If I didn't have to use a shitty locked-down router forced upon me by the ISP, I'd just use a device there that I could also use for this, but welp... |
| 02:21:48 | <TheTechRobo> | Why are there no chkdsk replacements for Linux? ntfsfix just boots me to chkdsk. |
| 02:22:17 | <TheTechRobo> | JAA: Don't even get me started on my shitty router. |
| 02:22:22 | <TheTechRobo> | It takes five minutes just to turn on. |
| 02:22:28 | <TheTechRobo> | Then the fucking wifi pods take another few minutes. |
| 02:22:33 | <@JAA> | Why are there no chkdsk replacements *for NTFS* for Linux? -- FTFY |
| 02:22:40 | <@JAA> | fsck is a thing, but yeah. |
| 02:22:51 | <TheTechRobo> | And port-forwarding just doesn't do anything (and the UI for it sucks). |
| 02:23:05 | <TheTechRobo> | JAA: Yeah, that's what I meant. I need to go to bed |
| 02:23:30 | <@JAA> | I'd like it if I could just control the router through something sensible rather than a shitty WUI. |
| 02:24:34 | <@JAA> | But no, horrible auth process etc. makes it almost impossible to even write scripts for stuff like toggling WiFi when it locks up. |
| 02:25:04 | <@JAA> | It's just a user/pass auth, why don't you support fucking Basic auth‽ |
| 02:25:32 | <@JAA> | No, it has to be a JS mess that requests a token which then gets sent in POST requests etc. |
| 02:26:00 | <@JAA> | Port forwarding is useless here anyway thanks to CGNAT. |
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| 02:30:51 | <TheTechRobo> | JAA: It takes more than 30 seconds to load the router page. This is on my local network. |
| 02:31:04 | <TheTechRobo> | <JAA> No, it has to be a JS mess that requests a token which then gets sent in POST requests etc. |
| 02:31:24 | <TheTechRobo> | Yep. Gotta love these companies, making convoluted garbage just because they can. :-) |
| 02:32:24 | <TheTechRobo> | <JAA> Port forwarding is useless here anyway thanks to CGNAT. |
| 02:32:42 | <TheTechRobo> | Oh, that's why. Thanks, Bell, for letting me know. Also great that you provide a port forwarding option when it doESNT EVEN WORK |
| 02:33:01 | <@JAA> | At least they kind of work nowadays. Some years ago, the standard device was a steaming pile of shit that broke and crashed constantly. I had to return several of them because they simply refused to establish a connection or even boot. And according to what I've read online, I was far from the only one. It still took them years to even acknowledge that there was an issue. |
| 02:33:58 | <@JAA> | I was in their store so often at that time that I got on a first-name basis with one of the guys there. That's how much they sucked. lol |
| 02:35:26 | <@JAA> | IPv6 adoption will happen any day now! |
| 02:36:07 | <Jake> | :( I've been following a thread for my ISP, turns out it might actually be happening any day now! Up from 0.2% to 10% in the last few weeks. |
| 02:39:32 | <@JAA> | (Fun fact: I'm pretty sure none of AT's infra supports IPv6.) |
| 02:39:46 | <@JAA> | s/supports/has enabled/ |
| 02:40:53 | <@JAA> | At least hackint does, so when IPv4 comes crashing down, we can at least still rant about it here. :-) |
| 02:42:12 | <Jake> | (The targets prefer v6, I think? but I guess you're talking about everything else :) ) |
| 02:45:54 | <@JAA> | True, most targets support v6. |
| 03:07:08 | <pabs> | TheTechRobo: get one of these https://skysedge.com/unsmartphones/RUSP/index.html https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31166026 |
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| 04:15:48 | <@JAA> | lol, I love that! |
| 04:19:04 | <@JAA> | (Not enough to drop $400 on it though...) |
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| 11:04:56 | <@HCross> | I have a 5G modem and an unlimited SIM, works wonders |
| 11:06:49 | <@HCross> | I go anywhere in Europe/North America, plonk the modem down and I can carry on working |
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| 13:01:56 | <AK> | Want to come camp outside my house and give me internet? |
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| 14:16:13 | <@JAA> | lolwut https://support.google.com/docs/thread/162510194/including-and-and-and-and-and-in-a-google-doc-causes-it-to-crash?hl=en |
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