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| 18:14:42 | <atphoenix> | Frogging101, seems to be a long standing capability under specific conditions: https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/125818/question-voluntarily-removed-by-its-author-with-an-answer-that-was-upvoted-and |
| 18:14:51 | <atphoenix> | https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/104137/i-get-page-not-found-voluntarily-removed-by-its-author-after-i-wrote-an-answer?rq=1 |
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| 22:08:41 | <@JAA> | Send help pls: https://transfer.archivete.am/inline/Z7vyi/terminals.png (Yes, there are more windows behind that arrow.) |
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| 22:23:55 | <@rewby> | JAA: That's quite a few terminals you got there. |
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| 22:29:10 | <@JAA> | rewby: It gets worse. Some of these windows have multiple tabs as well. :-) |
| 22:29:18 | <@rewby> | Ouch |
| 22:29:35 | <@JAA> | And of course some attach to tmux sessions with dozens of windows/panes. |
| 22:29:48 | <@rewby> | Ah yes |
| 22:29:56 | <@rewby> | You're having one of /those/ days |
| 22:30:49 | <@JAA> | > tmux list-panes -a | wc -l |
| 22:30:49 | <@JAA> | 318 |
| 22:30:51 | <@JAA> | ._. |
| 22:30:56 | <@rewby> | f |
| 22:31:19 | <TheTechRobo> | JAA: that's like me with browser tabs |
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| 22:31:51 | <@rewby> | TheTechRobo: https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/029/191/cover6.jpg |
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| 22:32:22 | <@JAA> | TheTechRobo: Oh, I'm at well over 100 browser tabs in addition to this. |
| 22:32:35 | <@rewby> | Them's rookie numbers |
| 22:32:59 | <@JAA> | Can't afford more RAM. :-P |
| 22:33:12 | <@rewby> | My browser always takes up like 6-7G of ram |
| 22:33:13 | <@rewby> | Always |
| 22:33:25 | <@rewby> | At a minimum that is |
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| 22:33:53 | <@JAA> | Yeah, sounds familiar. |
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| 22:34:40 | <@JAA> | At least my Xorg doesn't eat memory anymore. There was a bug in Mesa for a long while that made it leak memory on the order of 1 GB per day. |
| 22:35:23 | <@rewby> | Ouch |
| 22:35:34 | <@rewby> | Meanwhile in the cursed land where I live... |
| 22:35:42 | <@rewby> | My xorg setup is cursed to the bone |
| 22:35:43 | <@JAA> | This forced me to regularly restart the X session though, which means I didn't accumulate that many terminals... |
| 22:36:28 | <TheTechRobo> | How do you guys test the grab scripts locally? Right now I rebuild the Docker container over and over and its kind of slow (and I have to add test items to my localhost tracker, etc) |
| 22:37:06 | <@rewby> | You can dev in a linux vm and run the python code just in a terminal |
| 22:37:14 | <TheTechRobo> | JAA: Oof. I've had ouchies where X would crash right when I was running grab-site or something else |
| 22:37:25 | <@rewby> | As long as you test it with the container eventually, you can dev without it |
| 22:37:31 | <@JAA> | You sure it was a crash and not an OOM kill by the kernel? |
| 22:37:55 | <TheTechRobo> | rewby: I tried running the scripts directly, but I don't have the right modules etc. |
| 22:38:05 | <TheTechRobo> | Also, there's still the tracker issue (adding test items) |
| 22:38:13 | <@rewby> | Make a vm and run the commands from the dockerfile to setup the env |
| 22:38:17 | <@JAA> | The kernel several times did this for me: 'hmm, I'm running out of memory. Let's see, I have a Firefox process eating 10 GB and an Xorg process eating 2 GB. Better kill Xorg...' |
| 22:38:25 | <TheTechRobo> | JAA: Sometimes a crash, sometimes OOM-kill. I've had a lot of crashes lately, though. |
| 22:38:29 | <TheTechRobo> | JAA: LMAO so true |
| 22:38:30 | <@rewby> | The tracker thing you're not gonna get around no |
| 22:38:53 | <TheTechRobo> | In that case, I'll probably just make a makefile to rebuild and run the dockerfile |
| 22:39:08 | <@JAA> | Although to be fair, Firefox is actually a dozen processes, not a single one (since e10s), so it's not as straightforward for the kernel. |
| 22:39:35 | <@rewby> | Isn't it like one proc per tab? |
| 22:39:50 | <@JAA> | Nah, one 'content process' can handle multiple tabs. |
| 22:39:53 | <TheTechRobo> | JAA: Or when you've got an effective forkbomb. For some reason I left-clicked on a link in hexchat, boom ram down (thousands of web browser handler processes, my pids are at like 2 million now) |
| 22:40:04 | <@JAA> | I think it might be split by origin or something? Not entirely sure. |
| 22:40:23 | <TheTechRobo> | Yeah, [1] + 2093457 suspended sleep 10 |
| 22:40:36 | <@rewby> | TheTechRobo: If you think pids at 2 mil is bad, you should see a target when things get busy. My record was to roll-over the pid numbers within 30 minutes |
| 22:40:47 | <TheTechRobo> | Wow |
| 22:40:52 | <TheTechRobo> | That's...impressive |
| 22:40:53 | <@rewby> | Every connection creates a new pid |
| 22:41:05 | <@JAA> | More than one, I think, right? |
| 22:41:09 | <@rewby> | Could be yeah |
| 22:41:13 | <@rewby> | I don't remember |
| 22:41:17 | <@rewby> | It's at least one |
| 22:41:24 | <TheTechRobo> | The only reason the pids didn't get even higher is because of the oom problem. |
| 22:41:34 | <@rewby> | Either way, you see that pid allocator go |
| 22:41:51 | <@rewby> | And on real big days it'll roll-over many times per day |
| 22:42:28 | <@JAA> | I wonder how much CPU time we waste on targets simply for the rsync forking. |
| 22:43:20 | <TheTechRobo> | I oom sysrq'd and it closed discord. three seconds later, cursor lagging again. i managed to open a terminal, killed the browser, ITS STILL FUCKING OPENING MORE PROCESSES. oomed again in like 10 seconds. that was a time. (I couldn't even spam up+enter bc the new windows got focus...) |
| 22:43:31 | <@rewby> | Telegram-grab is on pid 3.5m at this point |
| 22:43:38 | <TheTechRobo> | (to clarify, the browser was what was blowing up) |
| 22:43:53 | <@rewby> | JAA: Lots. There is a reason I turn off cpu mitigations on HW targets. |
| 22:44:02 | <@JAA> | Yeah |
| 22:44:26 | <TheTechRobo> | once i was almost oom. |
| 22:44:29 | <@rewby> | Not as bad as the single-threaded packers cause me headaches |
| 22:44:35 | <TheTechRobo> | "TOP RAM USAGE" |
| 22:44:37 | <TheTechRobo> | - java |
| 22:44:39 | <TheTechRobo> | - java |
| 22:44:41 | <TheTechRobo> | - java |
| 22:45:19 | <TheTechRobo> | That's what happens when you're working on a Minecraft plugin. You need an IDE (in my case eclipse, which is java), a Minecraft server open, and a minecraft client open. It gets out of hand fast |
| 22:48:37 | <DigitalDragon> | Even worse when it's a plugin you need to test with multiple players or servers. Ends up looking like... (full message at https://matrix.hackint.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/hackint.org/qGtnFcQfhscinIKThhZGyMVe) |
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