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01:46:04<@JAA>Fuck the fucking fucks that write 'ET' instead of 'EST' or 'EDT'. How am I supposed to know when a datetime is exactly if you can't even write the proper time zone? </rant>
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03:39:32<@OrIdow6>https://savvytime.com/converter/et-to-switzerland-bern
03:41:23<@JAA>date --date='TZ="America/New_York" 12:00'
03:42:35<@JAA>It works for ET because I don't think there's any region where DST isn't observed (at least in the US). I think there are other zones where that isn't true.
03:42:48<@JAA>But really, just use the complete time zone. :-)
03:43:57<@JAA>'Mountain Time' is one of the ambiguous examples because Arizona (mostly) doesn't use DST but the other states in it do.
03:46:11<@JAA>It's just really annoying that apparently the entire rest of the world is capable of using the distinctions like CET/CEST or AEST/AEDT, but of course the US can't do that.
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