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17:53:02<TheTechRobo>Right now I have Minecraft Java Edition, a Paper server, and Eclipse open at the same time
17:53:14<TheTechRobo>Conky says that the top ram usage is java, java, and firefox-bin
17:53:28<TheTechRobo>Would've been funny if it said java, java, and java
17:54:09<wessel1512>that sound like my work
17:55:07<wessel1512>if you open up top on one of the production cluster. its literally a sea of java
17:56:09<TheTechRobo>I only know Java because Minecraft
17:56:50<TheTechRobo>I'm perfectly content with Python, Rust, etc, but those are harder to integrate with Bukkit, aka the library that wipes your ass throughout plugin development :P
17:56:51<@JAA>Eclipse is Java as well, isn't it?
17:56:54<TheTechRobo>yep
17:57:26<TheTechRobo>seriously, idk where i'd be without bukkit
17:57:59<TheTechRobo>My only complaint about Eclipse is that it looks AWFUL on a dark GTK theme
17:58:19<TheTechRobo>I had to change the colour scheme and it's STILL barely readable
17:59:18<appledash>Why not IntelliJ?
17:59:42<wessel1512>we use so much java do to legacy code bases. our main product is a application that's is more than 30 years old. and based om cobal and java
18:00:34<@JAA>COBOL? Damn, the 60s called and want their language back...
18:00:56<wessel1512>indeed
18:01:23<@JAA>Then again, I've worked with FORTRAN before, so I should probably be quiet.
18:03:01<TheTechRobo>appledash: The initial tutorial I tried was really outdated and didn't work with intellij
18:03:29<TheTechRobo>The second one worked with Eclipse and IntelliJ but I'd already deleted IntelliJ and installed Eclipse (and Eclipse was smaller)
18:03:32<TheTechRobo>Now I'm used to Eclipse
18:03:53<TheTechRobo>(the initial tutorial didn't have an eclipse version, tho)
18:04:17<thuban>i worked at a c++ shop that used eclipse
18:04:19<TheTechRobo>Anyway, now the main reason is the size and I'm used to it
18:05:10<thuban>during onboarding they were like 'you can use whatever you want, but we suggest eclipse. we don't really like it and we keep trying other things... but we keep going back to eclipse'
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18:06:44<thuban>JAA, were you in scientific computing?
18:07:28<@JAA>Yup
18:07:41<TheTechRobo>Cool
18:08:05<@JAA>It's still a big thing there mostly because of the neat and efficient matrix calculations.
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18:33:48<michaelblob>i had to compile some FORTRAN code as part of some compute library and that was probably one of the most frustrating things to debug
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19:18:18<TheTechRobo>Yay, now my top ram consumers are java, java, and java
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20:41:01<AK>Used to be a java fanboy, started with minecraft (Bukkit and then forge)
20:41:34<AK>Now I've gone to the darkside (Sorry JA_A), full M$ fanboy running .NET (core) on everything
20:49:14<Jake>.NET wow
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21:14:42<spirit>use whatever makes you happy and productive
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22:37:19<TheTechRobo>I'm a Rust fanboy, although I much prefer Python for quick scripts
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