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| 01:57:37 | <bitbit> | Hi. I've read the documentation of the ia cli and internetarchive python library, but I haven't found an answer -- when I upload a multiple files to the same item identifier, can I upload them at separate times? like one now and one in an a couple of hours from now? |
| 02:02:49 | <wolfin> | bitbit: I've done this before as long as it's the same identifier. I have elevated permissions but I believe all accounts can do this as long as you use the same account for each operation. |
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| 02:04:14 | <bitbit> | thanks |
| 02:33:03 | <bitbit> | another question -- can a single identifier hold 100,000 files? |
| 03:15:15 | <@OrIdow6> | Maybe, but it's a bad idea |
| 03:16:05 | <wolfin> | I feel there's an xy problem here ( xyproblem.info ) |
| 03:16:15 | <wolfin> | What are you trying to do, bitbit? |
| 03:17:55 | <@OrIdow6> | https://xyproblem.info/ - guide to writing an annoying SO answer |
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| 04:14:01 | <bitbit> | I want to slice a large dataset by its row (every X rows) and columns, this would produce 100k files. I want to hold onto only key certain columns on my machine, in order to query them from time to time. this query would produce a list of relevant rows. I want to then download only certain sliced column files, and only those that correspond to the relevant rows |
| 04:14:39 | <bitbit> | I suppose I can trim it down to 30k files or maybe less, I was just being lazy and also wondering if there's a limit. would 30k be reasonable? |
| 04:15:56 | <bitbit> | s/by its row (every X rows)/by its rows (every N-N+2000 rows)/ |
| 04:17:38 | <bitbit> | OrIdow6: wolfin: ^ :) |
| 04:19:23 | <wolfin> | Aha, and this is knowledge you also want to give freely to the world? I want to make sure you're not using archive.org as a cheap personal cloud XD |
| 04:21:39 | <bitbit> | yes :) it's a youtube dataset so I think it's pretty useful but it's current version on IA is 1TB it takes like a week to download |
| 04:22:13 | <bitbit> | and most people, myself included, can't spare 1TB for something they use only once in a while |
| 04:23:00 | <wolfin> | That makes a lot of sense ^.^ So even though this isn't ideal it would work, but if you can sort your dataset at all I'd encourage you to subset it further into multiple identifiers |
| 04:23:26 | <wolfin> | Maybe a youtubedataseta, youtubedatasetb; or by the first 1 or 2 letters of some hex value |
| 04:24:06 | <wolfin> | the reason why is the scripts that run archive.org don't do well when a single identifiers gets really large, and I'd worry about breakage or data rot if it struggle to check the integrity of a large set. |
| 04:24:23 | <wolfin> | Archive.org is...largely a bunch of php held together with bailing wire. |
| 04:25:41 | <wolfin> | I'd try and target no one identifier being bigger than 50GB, if possible. |
| 04:26:48 | <bitbit> | haha alright. well I think if I'm not being lazy I can batch the files by max size (e.g. 200MB) instead of slicing it by a fixed number of rows. that would make it way smaller |
| 04:27:44 | <bitbit> | no bigger than 50GB? that is strange. so what of this 1TB dataset on IA? it's in danger of data rot? |
| 04:28:52 | <bitbit> | there's actually another which is 750GB that is important to me as well. are you sure it's accurate that archive.org scripts can't check integrity of larger files than ~50GB? |
| 04:29:05 | <bitbit> | s/750GB/720GB/ |
| 04:29:07 | <wolfin> | That should work! I'd also reach out to https://archive-beta.ics.uci.edu/ml/donation-policy |
| 04:30:24 | <wolfin> | bitbit, the concern of having 1TB in a single identifier is it's all going to rest on one petabox, and if that machine becomes unhealthy a set that large will be harder to move away or recover for the automated tools that keep the lights on. |
| 04:30:33 | <bitbit> | or maybe you meant no one file should be larger than 50GB, rather than that all files in a certain identifier should be max 50GB |
| 04:30:54 | <bitbit> | oh I see |
| 04:34:34 | <bitbit> | thanks wolfin I'll see what I can do! |
| 04:35:43 | <wolfin> | You're welcome! |
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| 07:20:11 | <@OrIdow6> | Donation banner fairly similar to IA and WMF https://web.archive.org/web/20201127075503/https://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/03-1454.ZS.html |
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| 12:48:03 | <nyany> | OrIdow6: I was going to say, obnoxiously large and takes up almost an entire page of content? |
| 12:48:10 | <nyany> | in re WMF |
| 12:48:52 | <nyany> | This one actually isn't horrible, it's only half of a page for me, but WMF ones are typically massive here |
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