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01:57:37<bitbit>Hi. I've read the documentation of the ia cli and internetarchive python library, but I haven't found an answer -- when I upload a multiple files to the same item identifier, can I upload them at separate times? like one now and one in an a couple of hours from now?
02:02:49<wolfin>bitbit: I've done this before as long as it's the same identifier. I have elevated permissions but I believe all accounts can do this as long as you use the same account for each operation.
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02:04:14<bitbit>thanks
02:33:03<bitbit>another question -- can a single identifier hold 100,000 files?
03:15:15<@OrIdow6>Maybe, but it's a bad idea
03:16:05<wolfin>I feel there's an xy problem here ( xyproblem.info )
03:16:15<wolfin>What are you trying to do, bitbit?
03:17:55<@OrIdow6>https://xyproblem.info/ - guide to writing an annoying SO answer
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04:14:01<bitbit>I want to slice a large dataset by its row (every X rows) and columns, this would produce 100k files. I want to hold onto only key certain columns on my machine, in order to query them from time to time. this query would produce a list of relevant rows. I want to then download only certain sliced column files, and only those that correspond to the relevant rows
04:14:39<bitbit>I suppose I can trim it down to 30k files or maybe less, I was just being lazy and also wondering if there's a limit. would 30k be reasonable?
04:15:56<bitbit>s/by its row (every X rows)/by its rows (every N-N+2000 rows)/
04:17:38<bitbit>OrIdow6: wolfin: ^ :)
04:19:23<wolfin>Aha, and this is knowledge you also want to give freely to the world? I want to make sure you're not using archive.org as a cheap personal cloud XD
04:21:39<bitbit>yes :) it's a youtube dataset so I think it's pretty useful but it's current version on IA is 1TB it takes like a week to download
04:22:13<bitbit>and most people, myself included, can't spare 1TB for something they use only once in a while
04:23:00<wolfin>That makes a lot of sense ^.^ So even though this isn't ideal it would work, but if you can sort your dataset at all I'd encourage you to subset it further into multiple identifiers
04:23:26<wolfin>Maybe a youtubedataseta, youtubedatasetb; or by the first 1 or 2 letters of some hex value
04:24:06<wolfin>the reason why is the scripts that run archive.org don't do well when a single identifiers gets really large, and I'd worry about breakage or data rot if it struggle to check the integrity of a large set.
04:24:23<wolfin>Archive.org is...largely a bunch of php held together with bailing wire.
04:25:41<wolfin>I'd try and target no one identifier being bigger than 50GB, if possible.
04:26:48<bitbit>haha alright. well I think if I'm not being lazy I can batch the files by max size (e.g. 200MB) instead of slicing it by a fixed number of rows. that would make it way smaller
04:27:44<bitbit>no bigger than 50GB? that is strange. so what of this 1TB dataset on IA? it's in danger of data rot?
04:28:52<bitbit>there's actually another which is 750GB that is important to me as well. are you sure it's accurate that archive.org scripts can't check integrity of larger files than ~50GB?
04:29:05<bitbit>s/750GB/720GB/
04:29:07<wolfin>That should work! I'd also reach out to https://archive-beta.ics.uci.edu/ml/donation-policy
04:30:24<wolfin>bitbit, the concern of having 1TB in a single identifier is it's all going to rest on one petabox, and if that machine becomes unhealthy a set that large will be harder to move away or recover for the automated tools that keep the lights on.
04:30:33<bitbit>or maybe you meant no one file should be larger than 50GB, rather than that all files in a certain identifier should be max 50GB
04:30:54<bitbit>oh I see
04:34:34<bitbit>thanks wolfin I'll see what I can do!
04:35:43<wolfin>You're welcome!
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07:20:11<@OrIdow6>Donation banner fairly similar to IA and WMF https://web.archive.org/web/20201127075503/https://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/03-1454.ZS.html
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12:48:03<nyany>OrIdow6: I was going to say, obnoxiously large and takes up almost an entire page of content?
12:48:10<nyany>in re WMF
12:48:52<nyany>This one actually isn't horrible, it's only half of a page for me, but WMF ones are typically massive here
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