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00:48:32<pabs>hi all. whats the easiest way to extract a site from web.archive.org? its penta.debconf.org, which was static HTML with pages that shouldn't change after creation and where the server was lost and there are probably no backups
00:51:52<@OrIdow6>If it uses relative links, easy way is to do wget or similar with an allow regex for https://web.archive.org/[0-9]+id_/(URL matching site)
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00:57:15<pabs>probably the cdx API is a better option than that?
00:57:28<pabs>https://archive.org/help/wayback_api.php
00:59:16<@OrIdow6>Oh, that too
00:59:23<@OrIdow6>That may not be the "easiest"
00:59:42<@OrIdow6>If you are not adept with a CLI
01:01:31<@OrIdow6>curl "https://web.archive.org/cdx/search?url=query" | grep " 200 " | awk '{ printf("https://web.archive.org/web/%sim_/%s\n", $2, $3) }' | wget --no-directories --retry-on-http-error=429 --input-file=- is what I've used if you are
01:01:37<@OrIdow6>But recursive wget is the easiest
01:02:23<pabs>I was assuming there would be an existing command-line tool that would use the API and could download everything related to the domain
01:02:45<@OrIdow6>Not to my knowledge
01:02:59<@OrIdow6>But what I've put should do the same thing
01:03:18<@OrIdow6>Unless it's a very big site, in which case you'll have to use the CDX pagination API
01:03:20<anarcat>for completeness, i know of https://github.com/jsvine/waybackpack https://github.com/hartator/wayback-machine-downloader
01:03:33<@OrIdow6>OH
01:03:34<anarcat>which may or may not use those APIs
01:03:36<@OrIdow6>*Oh
01:03:40<anarcat>i suspect the answer is "not"
01:03:49<pabs>anarcat: could you say more about the WARC thing you mention on another channel?
01:04:12<anarcat>yes
01:04:21<pabs>IA has got the "backup" part of "backup the Internet" down, but they seem to be lacking in the "restore" part :)
01:04:40<anarcat>archiveteam operates a bot called archivebot which crawls websites and throws that into WARC files which is a "standard" (yeah those) for archiving websites
01:04:59<anarcat>if the site was crawled by archivebot, it's a good way to extract the entirety of that crawl
01:05:13<anarcat>it can also be used to perform authenticated crawls, wich proxies and plugins and so on
01:05:18<@OrIdow6>I wouldn't call this a deficiency on archive.org's part; it would not be possible for them to support all uses as niche as this
01:05:22<anarcat>because then you can reproduce a logged in user
01:05:37<anarcat>pabs: it's an "archive", not a "backup" :)
01:05:40<anarcat>anyways
01:05:45<anarcat>we're archiveteam here, not IA :)
01:05:49<pabs>:)
01:06:12<@OrIdow6>Yeah #internetarchive (also unofficial) might be best for future questions liek these
01:06:20<anarcat>right
01:06:23<anarcat>blame me
01:06:26<anarcat>i pointed pabs here :)
01:06:50<anarcat>then he blamed me for asking another question in the wrong channel, so we're even
01:06:55<anarcat>:)
01:06:57<anarcat>anyways, gn
01:07:08<pabs>later :)
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01:15:26<@OrIdow6>I don't think (though I'm not of the strongest of opinions here) that it's wrong to put it in -ot, so much that it's on-topic and may as well be made more prominent in the right channel
01:26:07<Wayward->With the surface densities of a 1.44 MB 3-1/2" diskette, or 1.2 MB 5-1/4" floppy... how would they scale up to 12 TB capacity in inches?
01:27:04<Wayward->will also accept units in miles.
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01:42:35<Doranwen>lol
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02:13:10<G4te_Keep3r>yikes seek time. Really wish laserdisks would have taken off better-imagine one but with blueray density so holds...~200gb?
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03:25:49<@JAA>Don't worry. Holographic storage will be here soon!!1!
03:34:06<Wayward->any decade now
03:42:10<Wayward->an LD had ~6.25x the surface area of a CD/DVD/BR btw, so might have had LD-R's with a capacity of 312 GB
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