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| 03:19:46 | <phasewrap> | hey, please point me to the right channel if this is not the right space |
| 03:19:54 | <phasewrap> | I'm interested in running a staging server for ArchiveTeam |
| 03:20:59 | <phasewrap> | Have a server with tons of bandwidth, barely utilized pipe, and lots of CPU/RAM. Main questions are (1) is running an additional staging server helpful to the community and (2) what's the recommended disk space for it? |
| 03:28:36 | <Arcorann> | If it's ArchiveTeam related it might be better to post in #archiveteam-bs |
| 03:30:35 | <phasewrap> | Thanks, didn't want to put it in the main channel since that's apparently "urgent" stuff only |
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| 08:12:58 | <Wayward> | https://www.today.com/parents/scholastic-pulls-children-s-book-captain-underpants-author-t213205 |
| 08:15:02 | <Wayward> | If I understand Copyright law well enough; When a publisher/author/rightsholder declares they are retracting publication and will no longer be making the works available... that results in total forfeiture of their Copyrights, and immediately places the work into Public Domain. |
| 08:16:08 | <Wayward> | "Published works cannot be unpublished. Copyright cannot be used to deny access to published works." |
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| 08:30:25 | <atphoenix> | retracting publication just means it's no longer in print. I.e. it is out of print. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Out-of-print_book |
| 08:32:27 | <atphoenix> | Countless books are out of print but haven't reached the way-too-long copyright expiration dates. It's sad that those countless books are in legal limbo. |
| 08:34:23 | <atphoenix> | if an item is out of print/no longer produced because of #reasons# that make said item worthless to sell in the market, then a case can be made that said item should revert to public domain |
| 08:36:25 | <atphoenix> | of course it isn't a clean as that, which in turn is why some corps go after some abandonware they aren't going to publish. |
| 08:37:49 | <Wayward> | I think because they made the bold and public pronouncement that they are both ending publication, and recalling all books currently in distribution, and barring all further sales... that's a legal admission of censorious book burning and withholding published works from availability. That obliterates their access to Copyright protection. |
| 08:38:38 | <Wayward> | They played this one carefully so that all retailers already zeroed out their inventory sheets before announcement. |
| 08:38:53 | <Wayward> | books are to be sent back to be pulverized |
| 08:39:20 | <Wayward> | By logic and reason, I should be allowed to print and sell my own copies. |
| 08:39:38 | <Wayward> | Seeing as they have abandoned their rights. |
| 08:47:22 | <atphoenix> | From what I know, pulping unsold books happens all the time. Though recalls like this do not. |
| 08:50:05 | <atphoenix> | and yes, I tend to agree that out-of-print items should quickly revert to public domain. Maybe with a 1 year delay from going out-of-print/removed from general access market to becoming PD. |
| 08:51:27 | <Wayward> | They even removed it from Kindle, while leaving all the others there. |
| 08:51:35 | <atphoenix> | And if you choose to print/sell copies later, it's at your own financial risk if you think you will have buyers. |
| 08:54:01 | <atphoenix> | If they reach into existing Kindles to remove it, it will be extra troubling. (That has happened before.) Major reason I have zero interest in DRM-encumbered books. |
| 08:54:05 | <Wayward> | I don't see why there ought to be a 1-year delay from announcement of book burning, to allowing people to pirate copies out of cultural interest. People should have access to their heritage. |
| 08:54:54 | <atphoenix> | I hope you agree that Mickey Mouse no longer deserves to protected by copyright. |
| 08:55:03 | <atphoenix> | MM is part of our heritage |
| 08:55:49 | <Wayward> | Oh, of course I agree that Copyright should be reduced back to the 7-14-28 year original standard |
| 08:56:47 | <Wayward> | https://archive.org/details/adventuresofookg00davp |
| 08:56:49 | <atphoenix> | I saw a proposal for running copyrights based on a logarythmic pricing scale. Doubling renewal fees every year for example. |
| 08:57:27 | <atphoenix> | Start at $1 first year. After 32 years... 2^32 ... |
| 08:58:04 | <Wayward> | What is "For print-disabled users" DAISY download? |
| 08:58:13 | <atphoenix> | eventually megacorp X will decide that some dollar value is too high to pay, and it'll revert to pd |
| 08:59:39 | <atphoenix> | 2^32 ... $4 Gigabucks then 8 then 16 ... |
| 09:00:10 | <atphoenix> | DAISY is for the blind |
| 09:00:52 | <atphoenix> | 7-14-28 isn't granular enough, whereas the logarythmic scale...scales nicely... |
| 09:01:45 | <atphoenix> | low value stuff goes to PD fast. really high value stuff goes to PD a bit later, but eventually megacorp will decide Mickey isn't worth paying $128 Billion for 1 year extension. |
| 09:01:46 | <Wayward> | U.S. Constitution | Article I Section 8 | Clause 8 – Patent and Copyright Clause of the Constitution. [The Congress shall have power] “To promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for ---> limited times <--- to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries.” |
| 09:02:55 | <atphoenix> | yes, Congress could fix this. If they had balls to fix it. |
| 09:02:57 | <Wayward> | 7 years is already an extremely generous withholding of free communication of thought and story |
| 09:03:08 | <Wayward> | these are the songs of my people. these are the stories we told. |
| 09:03:25 | <atphoenix> | yes agreed 7 is already generous |
| 09:03:50 | <Wayward> | Imagine informing an ancient tribeswoman that she is prohibited from telling stories of her ancestors because 150 years hasn't elapsed since their death. |
| 09:04:11 | <atphoenix> | worse, fire licenses |
| 09:04:19 | <atphoenix> | pay me if you want fire |
| 09:04:36 | <Wayward> | at least patents mature after 14 years |
| 09:05:11 | <Wayward> | imagine having to pay a GIF89 license fee for 150 years |
| 09:06:58 | <atphoenix> | 7 years logarythmic fees = total $255. 14 years $16383. 21 years $2.1 million. 28 years $268.4 million |
| 09:10:37 | <atphoenix> | The 1 year delay was to allow to out-of-print process-reversal. But really, the logarythmic renewal fee solves all that right away. Don't pay the renewal fee (say because you don't think item will sell enough to make the fee worth it)? Item irreversibly reverts to PD. |
| 09:33:14 | <Wayward> | Fat Albert and the Cosby Kids is another interesting example. On and off for years, it was either airing on a few stations or it was being banned for racial stereotypes. I recall Bill Cosby stating (some eons ago) that Fat Albert would never see the light of day again. Then a couple movies happened, then he got convicted, and now Clear/Fox/Universal have basically banned Fat Albert again. Ripped it off Netflix, not on Hulu, not on YouTube |
| 09:35:31 | <Wayward> | All of that crap can be avoided if Copyright were 7 years where it belongs. |
| 09:36:19 | <Wayward> | These are the songs of my people. These are the stories we told. |
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| 22:59:38 | <Doranwen> | anyone here know how to reset a mouse on Linux? I went to click and drag/move a window to a different spot after my workspace switcher and window manager and task something-or-other crashed and restarted (thus shuffling all my programs out of order) - and it "froze" with the mouse icon as if I'm still dragging the window, and now the mouse doesn't work at all |
| 22:59:56 | | Doranwen already tried closing the program that she had been trying to drag, that didn't fix it |
| 23:00:33 | <Doranwen> | I can type just fine, just… can't get the mouse to work, and I'm in the middle of stuff that I really do not want to do a force reboot, and it'll be very difficult to save everything properly with keyboard only, if not impossible |
| 23:01:12 | <Doranwen> | I tried searching online but it's surprising how little info there actually is on this problem - everything's just all "reboot!" but that's not really an option atm |
| 23:02:55 | <Doranwen> | unplugging/replugging just disables it entirely and then restores it back to the buggy state, so whatever's going on with the mouse, it's got nothing to do with the actual hardware |
| 23:06:19 | <ThreeHeadedMonkey> | Maybe killing and restarting the window manager helps? |
| 23:07:41 | <ThreeHeadedMonkey> | Sounds similar to a problem I've had at one point |
| 23:10:02 | <Doranwen> | will that kill all of the gui programs I have open? |
| 23:10:36 | <ThreeHeadedMonkey> | It shouldn't. What desktop are you running? |
| 23:10:45 | <Doranwen> | Mate, I'm on Mint |
| 23:11:34 | <Doranwen> | I have the system monitor open so I can see the processes running and kill them from there, even, though of course I can also open a terminal at any point |
| 23:12:16 | <Doranwen> | I've had a script running for the URL project for the past hour or two and I *really* don't want to crash it, lol - was actually hoping to finish scanning all those mboxes before I had to restart this box |
| 23:12:16 | <ThreeHeadedMonkey> | I know it's safe to kill the WM on KDE, not sure about Mate though |
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| 23:16:10 | <Doranwen> | well well, I did a search with some parameters towards that |
| 23:16:15 | <Doranwen> | apparently the answer is yes :) |
| 23:16:36 | <atphoenix> | plug in a second mouse? |
| 23:17:11 | <Doranwen> | the issue wasn't with the mouse, really |
| 23:17:16 | <Doranwen> | it was a window manager issue |
| 23:17:18 | <Doranwen> | and it's fixed :) |
| 23:17:24 | <atphoenix> | yay! |
| 23:17:37 | <Doranwen> | had to run the command `pidof mate-panel` to bring up the process ID for the mate panel itself |
| 23:17:45 | <Doranwen> | then kill that, and poof, it came back and mouse is now normal |
| 23:17:48 | | Doranwen files that away in memory |
| 23:18:19 | <Doranwen> | should've realized that was the problem since it happened just after the panel objects all glitched |
| 23:18:25 | <Doranwen> | they do that once in a very long while |
| 23:19:48 | <Doranwen> | (or I could've killed the panel from the system monitor, but it was faster to type the command than scroll through the long list of processes) |
| 23:20:04 | <Doranwen> | ThreeHeadedMonkey: thank you for pointing my mind in that direction! |
| 23:21:17 | <atphoenix> | on a tangentially related note, on Windows, WinKey+Ctrl+Shift+B forces part of the graphics subsystem to reload. https://superuser.com/questions/1127463/what-does-ctrlwinshiftb-do-in-windows |
| 23:23:13 | <atphoenix> | Also I've terminated and relaunched Explorer.exe, and sometimes dwm.exe, to get the UI mostly-working again after a UI freeze (due to flying too close to the sun in terms of available system memory resources) |
| 23:24:02 | <atphoenix> | in one case when I flew to close to the sun, I couldn't get the local GUI to come back at all, however an RDP session to the same computer still worked. |
| 23:26:16 | <atphoenix> | These are the stories of running too many tabs/windows/processes and trying to add 'just one more', where Windows kind of bloats like the bunny being fed pancakes in the Wreck-it-Ralph minigame skit. |
| 23:26:44 | <ThreeHeadedMonkey> | Interesting that this seems to happen in different desktops (KDE in my case). Could be something to do with the X server then |
| 23:39:53 | <Doranwen> | heh, I think the box of cables my mom found in the barn must've belonged to my grandpa - I doubt we'd have held onto three parallel cables, lol |
| 23:41:03 | <Doranwen> | plus a PS/2-serial converter |
| 23:41:08 | <Doranwen> | *adapter |
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| 23:46:02 | <ThreeHeadedMonkey> | Never know when you might need them :D Pretty sure I still have my collection of floppy drive cables somewhere |
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