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00:45:50<atphoenix>it can be hard to know what you'll miss until it is already gone
00:46:09<atphoenix>but saving the past risks missing the present
00:47:05<atphoenix>if I *knew* what I'd miss in 10 years, then I'd know the future, and *many* other things would just fall into place the way i want them to.
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11:34:48<themadpro>Hey, you guys mind if I share a survey from a friend?
11:35:05<themadpro>It's on what demographics are most interested in media preservation and for what purposes
11:37:30<Barto>you can share it, but you may introduce a bias in your study ;)
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12:04:42<themadpro>I've shared it in like 6 other places, hopefully that ought to balance things out
12:05:45<themadpro>> I'm writing a report on media preservation for class and as a supplement to gain insight on how certain factors contribute to interest and recognition of media preservation (especially digital), I've created a short survey here: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/Y9PRHJX and would be interested to see what demographics of people involve themselves with this hobby.
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18:06:54<atphoenix>themadpro: 'A commonly spoken phrase around the world is "Once something is on the internet, it's there forever." Do you believe this saying to be accurate?'
18:07:00<atphoenix>it's true until it isn't
18:09:10<atphoenix>The Internet also forgets a lot, however it is much less likely to forget items that go viral. It's probably mostly true for items subject to the Streisand Effect.
18:09:38<atphoenix>the lesson is...if you want the Internet to forget something...do *not* trigger the Streisand Effect
18:10:19<atphoenix>just let said item die a quiet death when the service it is sitting on shuts down. Unless AT finds said service first...
19:24:31<Barto>there is also a random chance of an archivist passing by
19:25:02<@HCross>"Oops, I did it again, I archived your shit"
19:27:27<spirit>running badblocks on 3 slow 8 TB drives, AMA
19:48:44<Wayward>Even news in mainstream media is quickly forgotten. U.S. media and local news companies hate retaining old reporting, for a myriad of reasons. Either makes their staff look bad when public opinion shifts, or they receive surmounting complaints and telephone time from people mentioned in the old news items. My newspaper and TV stations seem to only keeps articles for 2 or 3 years, maybe 5. Besides blocking traffic of european visitors due
19:50:06<Wayward>And I can't seem to find old newspapers on microfish anymore unless they're -really- old.
20:03:32<atphoenix>I'm sure you mean microfiche, unless there's some dish that serves newspapers on sardines...
20:11:49<Wayward>sometimes butcher paper is too expensive
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20:51:21<AK>https://twitter.com/getongab/status/1366123617847828483
20:51:27<AK>What a way to say "We suck and got hacked"
20:57:18<jut>As a foreigner I find american crazies way crazier than ours, we only have like two in our parliament and they seem tame, just sticking to homophobia and xenophobia, americans have jewish space laser believers
20:58:40<@EggplantN>in the UK we had 5G street light conspiracies jut so yeah we're also bad ( Sunderland/Gateshead for UK folk)
21:01:25<Wayward>I'll be keeping my family safe with lambs blood on the doorpost and lintel of our home in 27 days. Gotta watch out for them space lasers.
21:01:58<AK>I mean don't forget the royal family are lizards
21:02:21<AK>The only one I wouldn't be surprised if it's true: Prince Philip is actually dead
21:02:23<jut>EggplantN That's actually a great idea, they are vertical, ubiquitous, they already have power and could probably be easily retrofited
21:03:07<@EggplantN>See https://e3.365dm.com/18/04/768x432/skynews-5g-gateshead-street-lights_4279913.jpg?20180411163509
21:03:49<jut>as someone working on 6G I find this offensive
21:04:51<jut>also an antenna that small couldn't radiate shit
21:05:42<AK>That's exactly what you'd say if you were trying to infect us all!
21:09:57<jut>You got me I will melt all of your brains with the THz electromagnetic radiation that doesn't penetrate beyond a few millimeters of skin
21:14:41<@HCross>I wouldn’t be surprised if Philip is dead
21:16:57<@HCross>AK: let’s be realistic in this, he’s 99 years old
21:17:05<AK>He just looks dead
21:17:13<AK>Like my granny looked better when she was actually dead
21:17:41<AK>https://www.abc.net.au/cm/rimage/11826304-3x2-large.jpg?v=3
21:17:52<@HCross>Oh god
21:17:58<@HCross>Not the Range Rover incident
21:18:28<jut>The range rover incident?
21:19:16<@HCross>https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-46912691
21:19:43<@HCross>> Prince Phillip gets breathalysed
21:19:47<jut>HE drove a car
21:20:06<jut>at 97?
21:22:56<jut>He drove a car with Obama in it, the secret service must have been thrilled
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