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| 01:12:30 | | Doranwen is beyond irritated with her Internet connection |
| 01:12:35 | <Doranwen> | currently the ONLY things that are working are IRC and IM |
| 01:12:54 | <Doranwen> | Discord disconnected already, and I haven't gotten an email to send or a webpage to load for nearly a couple hours now… |
| 01:20:36 | | Doranwen is trying to tutor remotely and while they usually do it on IM anyway (only having gotten Zoom audio alone to work in a browser last week - a bit choppily), not being able to load the screenshots of the answers from the student's homework, or upload the new pages for them to work on… is a real problem :P |
| 01:21:57 | <AK> | Just fyi, something I've developed for work that might also be useful here to someone (maybe): https://dns.aktheknight.co.uk/ Does a cloudflare dns-over-https check for A,AAAA, and CNAME records to confirm if a domain is nxdomain or not |
| 01:22:24 | <AK> | Next step is gonna be adding multiple providers, so this will say if it's an nxdomain from just cf, or from multiple upstreams |
| 01:22:38 | <AK> | Sorry for the ping :/ |
| 01:28:00 | <HP_Archivist> | atphoenix: Sure thing. Also, I liked the idea from someone in the live chat. A rotating platter under the chicken possibly matched to the speed of the slapper |
| 01:28:08 | <HP_Archivist> | Evenly heating etc |
| 01:28:10 | <atphoenix> | Doranwen, Starlink beta? |
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| 01:30:48 | <Wayward-> | atphoenix, lel |
| 01:32:30 | <atphoenix> | for the audience, we're referring to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n00HeVPDAeE by Louis Weisz. Chicken slapper could be multi-sided. build a 4-sided slapper (3 paddles). Or 6-sided slapper (5 paddles). |
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| 01:32:40 | <atphoenix> | Wayward-, what is lel? |
| 01:32:47 | <atphoenix> | lol? |
| 01:33:16 | <Wayward-> | it's like lol but more gamertrollesque |
| 01:35:26 | <HP_Archivist> | Ah yes, that would help for context heh. Thanks atphoenix |
| 01:36:11 | <HP_Archivist> | And that would also be a good idea, but I thought I heard Louis mention that larger surface area might not work. I guess it depends on the amount of chicken being slapped |
| 01:36:35 | <HP_Archivist> | Also, ambient room temp likely affects this, too |
| 01:37:39 | <Doranwen> | atphoenix: it's probably not reliable enough for my mom's work, is the thing, and we are currently in talks with the local cable company to get them to actually connect a cable to our house so we can get 'net from them… they're just moving very slowly on it |
| 01:37:46 | <systwi> | Anyone see this today? https://old.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/lgsu7h/source_code_for_gwent_cdprs_card_game_leaked/ |
| 01:38:12 | <Doranwen> | so we don't want to invest in satellite 'net of some kind for personal use and then finally get cable proper |
| 01:38:26 | <atphoenix> | Slapped chicken needs to be inside an insulated box. And a multi-sided slapper should synchronize the slaps on the opposite sides, but I think it should *not* slap all the sides at once...because the flexing of the chicken is part of where the heat is generated |
| 01:38:52 | <Doranwen> | (and IM quit working, so I'm down to IRC only, lol - if I vanish from here, you know the 'net *really* went belly-up at my place) |
| 01:39:01 | <systwi> | Oh, sorry if I interrupted the convo. |
| 01:39:18 | <Doranwen> | systwi: there are like two convos going on, why not add to the mix? ;) |
| 01:39:34 | <HP_Archivist> | atphoenix: Good point about flexing of the material (chicken) |
| 01:39:42 | <atphoenix> | Starlink is lowish latency, which is quite different from the traditional high latency satellite service |
| 01:39:45 | <Doranwen> | that's half the fun of it all |
| 01:40:11 | <Doranwen> | mmm, I hadn't heard that |
| 01:40:22 | <Wayward-> | slapping the chicken sounds like something teenagers do |
| 01:40:30 | <atphoenix> | anyhow, thanks to jake, I also now know the prior attempts are accessible via a playlist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xo7-2vnO2Yw&list=PL_S6PzMzyrBd-jFP5OaQOTrRsWXn5j6gG |
| 01:41:00 | <HP_Archivist> | atphoenix: Oh, awesome ^ |
| 01:41:18 | <HP_Archivist> | I was thinking of that earlier, can you grab all of those? |
| 01:41:30 | <HP_Archivist> | Idk why he feels he needs to unlist these |
| 01:41:31 | <Doranwen> | if Starlink were something we could try without investment costs, it'd be worth doing - but if we're paying for equipment up front and then we do end up getting cable… that's why we haven't tried to get Starlink yet |
| 01:42:04 | <atphoenix> | Doranwen, I wouldn't consider traditional Hughes/Viasat type service. But would consider Starlink if i didn't have decent TMO services here. Starlink is one of Elon Musks' projects, launched by SpaceX rockets. |
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| 01:42:20 | <Doranwen> | (my mom's just gone to a friend's house to work every day - has a room all to herself and fast 'net, but she'd like to be able to work from home like the plan was) |
| 01:42:34 | <Doranwen> | yeah, we've had a lot of people suggest Starlink to us |
| 01:42:52 | <Wayward-> | Skip to 21:30 in atphoenix's n00H youtube link |
| 01:42:57 | <Doranwen> | the only reason we haven't tried to go for it is the whole "invest in it but then cable actually ends up working" possibility |
| 01:43:16 | <flashfire42> | So asking again can anyone recommend a good FTP client? |
| 01:43:48 | <atphoenix> | good ftp client? I have used WinSCP and FileZilla |
| 01:44:01 | <atphoenix> | depends on your needs |
| 01:44:51 | <HP_Archivist> | Wayward: He needs something that would run for a long time without superheating |
| 01:45:10 | <HP_Archivist> | I also thought of a heatsink on top his motor that could be chilled with liquid nitrogen |
| 01:45:19 | <atphoenix> | WinSCP has a FTP file/folder sync capability that mostly works. although it seems to have an issue with multi-GB files not being detected as synced |
| 01:46:04 | <Wayward-> | agreed with WinSCP and FileZilla |
| 01:46:54 | <atphoenix> | years ago WS-FTP was my go-to ftp tool |
| 01:47:28 | <Wayward-> | Years ago I used, helped develop, FlashFXP |
| 01:47:44 | <atphoenix> | then I think they made it not-quite free. Or naggy or something. But early versions did just what they were designed to do, without fuss. |
| 01:47:52 | <Wayward-> | apparently people still using it. I guess nobody else has stolen FXP functionality |
| 01:48:31 | <atphoenix> | Wayward-, what are you referring to at 21:30 in that video? |
| 01:48:46 | <Wayward-> | atphoenix: the beginning of the action |
| 01:49:05 | <atphoenix> | ah right |
| 01:49:57 | <atphoenix> | chicken slapping: temp range was 26 C up to 45 C at end |
| 01:50:55 | <Wayward-> | heh |
| 01:51:27 | <Wayward-> | it's good to know that beating your meat for a couple hours won't cook it. |
| 01:51:58 | <atphoenix> | Wired article on the topic: https://www.wired.com/story/how-many-times-do-you-have-to-slap-a-chicken-to-cook-it/ |
| 01:53:36 | <atphoenix> | Wired estimated about 500k slaps. At 10 slaps/second, that's about 13.9 hours of slapping. |
| 01:54:23 | <HP_Archivist> | I liked the idea of supercooling that motor, but I don't know enough about how that would work/if it would help |
| 01:55:42 | <atphoenix> | Wayward-, depends on the technique. HP_Archivist, don't need to supercool. Regular motors can work. Industrial motors regularly have blower fans built-in. Or use a bigger motor to allow for a higher duty cycle. |
| 01:57:00 | <atphoenix> | One thing I am certain of is that slapping a chicken to cook it, is *not* the most efficient way to get the job done. |
| 01:57:51 | <Wayward-> | you waste a lot of energy in momentum having to reverse your slapper. I'd have gone for the water wheel of rocking meat tenderizers |
| 01:58:15 | <atphoenix> | Wayward-, also, basting the meat reduces friction, so don't baste the meat. |
| 01:58:21 | <@JAA> | Just put it in a perfectly isolated box. All heat generated by the slapper will contribute. |
| 01:59:32 | <Wayward-> | i never baste before beating. there's time to let it marinade after. |
| 01:59:50 | <@JAA> | Almost seems like a physics joke. 'We're going to assume a spherical chicken in a perfectly isolated vacuum...' |
| 02:01:59 | <ThreeHeadedMonkey> | JAA: An isolated box really just sounds like a normal oven with a slightly unusual heating element |
| 02:03:00 | <@JAA> | Yeah, and some special coating to keep the infrared radiation inside even better etc. |
| 02:03:30 | <HP_Archivist> | JAA: Reminds me of the oldie but goodie, 'The main winding was of the normal lotus-o-delta type placed in panendermic semi-boloid slots of the stator; every seventh conductor being connected by a non-reversible trem'e pipe to the differential girdlespring on the up-end of the grammes.' |
| 02:03:45 | <flashfire42> | Bless you |
| 02:04:15 | <HP_Archivist> | For those who don't get the reference https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLDgQg6bq7o |
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| 02:04:50 | <Wayward-> | Indeed, there are quite a number of Turbo Encabulator videos in fact |
| 02:05:15 | <@JAA> | :-) |
| 02:10:55 | <atphoenix> | Mr. Fusion is much simpler |
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| 02:56:37 | <flashfire42> | ANOTHER FUCKING LOCKDOWN |
| 02:56:43 | <flashfire42> | kiska how is NSW doing? |
| 02:56:49 | <flashfire42> | Cause Vic locked down again...... |
| 02:58:55 | <flashfire42> | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Et_hAvSUcAUvK2a?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 |
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| 03:39:30 | <Wayward> | Australia has a category of "permitted education" and "prohibited education" :o |
| 03:39:40 | <Wayward> | a lot has happened since you got rid of your guns it seems. |
| 03:50:41 | <Doranwen> | well, the other box (which is 5G) is doing OK as it usually does, I'm going to risk it and try rebooting the 4G one I'm on and see if the 'net will improve (if not, I'll have lost the last links to actual 'net, lol, but IRC and one other IRC-style program isn't that much to lose…) |
| 03:53:27 | <@hook54321> | Wayward: remote learning |
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| 03:54:35 | <Wayward> | hook54321: it said "you are allowed to leave the house for permitted education." |
| 03:54:52 | <@JAA> | Well yeah, that's the 'remote' part. |
| 03:54:54 | <Wayward> | that suggests there's a class of prohibited education you may not leave the house for |
| 03:55:11 | <Wayward> | "remote education" is something you do from home and don't leave the house for. |
| 03:55:17 | <@hook54321> | also, it's less than a week |
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| 03:55:51 | <@hook54321> | saying the learning is "prohibited" is misleading, when it's doing it in-person that is. |
| 03:56:16 | <Wayward> | but it's O.K. to do "permitted education" in-person. |
| 03:56:36 | <Wayward> | not any of that other education |
| 03:57:33 | <@hook54321> | for in-person only, for less than a week. |
| 03:57:44 | <@JAA> | Less than a week? That sounds useful. |
| 03:57:49 | <Wayward> | i think maybe they're talking about sunday school and bible study :) |
| 03:57:57 | <Ajay> | maybe stuff like driving lessons? I know in canada those were allowed |
| 03:58:07 | <Wayward> | they banned both in my state |
| 03:58:33 | <Ajay> | our lockdown is ending this week |
| 03:59:09 | <@hook54321> | JAA: to be fair, there's very few reported cases there. |
| 03:59:34 | <Ajay> | most are from travel too right? |
| 03:59:57 | <@JAA> | Huh |
| 04:01:04 | <@hook54321> | might as well make it two weeks regardless though, that way supposedly some people's symptoms will start showing. |
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| 04:02:15 | <Ajay> | in canada they've been doing everything in 14-day blocks |
| 04:02:41 | <Ajay> | but, I guess CDC did say that 10 days might be enough |
| 04:06:11 | <Ajay> | "Prior to this outbreak, Victoria had not seen a local infection for 28 days and the state had largely eliminated the virus." |
| 04:06:14 | <Ajay> | huh, that's crazy |
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| 09:25:50 | <jodizzle> | https://www.deccanherald.com/national/youtube-removes-punjabi-songs-related-to-farmers-protest-949496.html |
| 09:30:11 | <Doranwen> | censorship is just a really bad idea, and it surprises me that more people don't see how dangerous it is |
| 09:44:44 | <Wayward> | It doesn't surprise me. American K-12 education is predicated on students having zero constitutional freedoms, existing under an autocratic dictatorship for 12 years of their lives, and they are never reconditioned or deprogrammed when they graduate high school to expect the world to be any different than what they already know. |
| 09:46:52 | <Wayward> | There are millions of 18, 19 year olds fumbling around the wide open world, looking for their principal to tell them what they can do and cannot do, expecting and hoping for their backpacks to be randomly inspected at any moment. |
| 09:47:26 | <Wayward> | Of course they desire censorship. |
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| 10:46:27 | <OrIdow6> | And somehow this is the cause of censorship in India |
| 10:52:40 | <Wayward> | OrIdow6: Yes, because young Americans control the censorship in India, making the technology possible, allowing it with eager capitulation. |
| 10:54:26 | <Wayward> | such requests used to be thrown away when adults ran the company |
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| 11:03:06 | <OrIdow6> | Wayward: What about Google China? That seems to have shown things going in the opposite direction |
| 11:03:28 | <Wayward> | used to be adults running the company |
| 11:04:36 | <Wayward> | adults who scrambled to uphold American values and constitutional freedoms, not because they had to, but because they wanted to. |
| 11:05:31 | <OrIdow6> | The adults capitulated to Chinese censorship in 2006, while their attempt to come back to China in 2018 was stopped after the kids then running the company protested |
| 11:08:33 | <OrIdow6> | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Yahoo!#Work_in_the_People's_Republic_of_China - 2005 onward |
| 11:08:51 | <OrIdow6> | 2001, even |
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| 15:10:52 | <AK> | Anyone using Notion discovering they have no backups and no way to access their stuff at the moment? |
| 15:21:40 | <avoozl> | well notion.so seems to have no dns... that is a bit odd |
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| 15:24:18 | <VerifiedJ> | https://nitter.verifiedjoseph.uk/NotionStatus/status/1360220589743480838#m |
| 15:24:48 | <VerifiedJ> | oops now the right link: https://twitter.com/NotionStatus/status/1360220589743480838 |
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| 20:54:55 | <@EggplantN> | HAPPY FRIDAY |
| 20:55:03 | <@EggplantN> | ITS TIME TO GET SHIT FACED |
| 20:55:11 | <@EggplantN> | AND LEAVE ARCHIVING TO THE SOBER |
| 21:03:41 | <AK> | Hey EggplantN, Wanna archive something? :P |
| 21:16:03 | <@EggplantN> | go for it |
| 21:16:05 | <@EggplantN> | lol |
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| 21:32:04 | <yano> | lol |
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| 23:12:37 | | @JAA blasts Rebecca Black - Friday |