| 00:00:10 | <kpcyrd> | context is hexane.cc, which claims authenticity of the email leaks can be authenticated through DKIM |
| 00:00:32 | <kpcyrd> | magnet:?xt=urn:btih:852795102149749ad91123af01ceac5da6f9eb5a&dn=hexane-corpus-tar&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.opentrackr.org%3A1337%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fopen.demonii.com%3A1337%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.torrent.eu.org%3A451%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fexodus.desync.com%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.openbittorrent.com%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fopen.stea |
| 00:00:34 | <kpcyrd> | lth.si%3A80%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fexplodie.org%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.dler.org%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.bittor.pw%3A1337%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fretracker01-msk-virt.corbina.net%3A80%2Fannounce |
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| 00:02:46 | <klea> | Sounds like a good idea to archive the DoH records. /cc someone with ab access |
| 00:05:27 | <@JAA> | AB can't do that. |
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| 00:08:15 | <@JAA> | I think DNS is probably generally underarchived, and DKIM more so. Not sure about those specific domains. |
| 00:11:07 | <klea> | JAA: That's why DoH? |
| 00:11:28 | <klea> | IIRC Heretrix makes a dns dump when running a site. |
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| 00:12:51 | <chootka> | Hi, question about the Livestream grab. I organized Radical Networks (2015-2019), which the Internet Society streamed on Livestream. About 50 talks from 2015-2017 exist nowhere else. |
| 00:12:57 | <chootka> | Did the grab capture video (HLS/m3u8), not just pages, for these: livestream.com/internetsociety/radicalnetworks (acct 686369, event 4317418), livestream.com/internetsociety/radnetworks, livestream.com/internetsociety/radnets17, livestream.com/internetsociety2/radnets17 |
| 00:12:59 | <@JAA> | You were in the right channel. |
| 00:13:03 | <chootka> | okay |
| 00:13:05 | <chootka> | thank you |
| 00:13:07 | <chootka> | i will stay there |
| 00:13:23 | <@JAA> | klea: I guess the GET form could work in theory if the server doesn't require the Accept header. |
| 00:13:24 | <klea> | hmm, https://hexane.cc/ got marked as phising by CF. |
| 00:13:40 | <klea> | 2026-10-21 00:13:23 <@JAA> klea: I guess the GET form could work in theory if the server doesn't require the Accept header. <- hmm, true, I forget about the Accept header sillyness. |
| 00:19:23 | <klea> | chootka: Could you give us the dkim selectors of the emails? |
| 00:19:33 | <klea> | > DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; |
| 00:19:44 | <klea> | hmm, sounds like they use google. |
| 00:20:00 | <chootka> | i was asking about missing livestream videos - wrong person? |
| 00:20:10 | <klea> | Yes, sorry. |
| 00:20:22 | <pokechu22> | https://cert.europa.eu/publications/security-advisories/2026-018/ - apparently there is a major security vulnerability in PHP |
| 00:20:22 | <chootka> | all good |
| 00:21:22 | <klea> | kpcyrd: ^ I haven't been able to download it fully, I checked one of the alternativefuer.de mboxes, and that had a googlemail.com selector, could you give me the DKIM-Signature headers on the others?, the data I just sent to IRC is enough, (email domain, dkim domain, an dkim selector) |
| 00:23:12 | <klea> | pokechu22: Yup, very fun. someone shared this: https://mastodon.social/@Viss/117475756759987593 but it is of dubious quality, of course. |
| 00:34:57 | <@JAA> | The phishing page is maximally annoying, presenting the turnstile again for every page. |
| 00:35:05 | <@JAA> | Buttflare-- |
| 00:35:05 | <eggdrop> | [karma] 'Buttflare' now has -397 karma! |
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| 00:51:50 | <@JAA> | If we can get a list of the d and s values, it could be run through AB in principle. |
| 00:52:01 | <@JAA> | Quad9's DoH endpoint doesn't require the Accept header. |
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| 01:33:08 | <yfdyh000> | chootka: Yes, these videos are archived, according to the Deepwiki for https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/livestream-grab and actual testing, but they seem not to be playable online in the Internet Archive. Here is a reference implementation for you, try to use AI to improve them: https://transfer.archivete.am/wcVIi/PLAYBACK.zip |
| 01:33:52 | <@JAA> | yfdyh000: → #deadtrickle |
| 01:34:16 | <Umbire> | I also do not imagine AI would offer much in the way of concrete improvement, but then I'm not the most knowledgeable here |
| 01:37:51 | <yfdyh000> | JAA: Given that the task is already done, should I even join that channel? Or did the requester continue that topic in that channel without my knowing? |
| 01:39:52 | <yfdyh000> | Umbire: It’s just that I didn’t want to crawl an unfamiliar website alone. The AI completed this task well and quickly, but incompletely (it didn’t cover more IDs). |
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| 01:43:42 | <@JAA> | yfdyh000: Discussion on finished projects stays in the project channels as long as they exist. |
| 01:45:39 | <@JAA> | And yes, they were in that channel first, hence my comment above. |
| 01:45:47 | <pabs> | TIL Twitter now works without JS... |
| 02:14:40 | <pokechu22> | arkiver: JS challenge on https://www.bandim.org/, bypassed with -u curl |
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| 03:05:10 | <Dango360> | worst case scenario for wiki.archiveteam.org with the php vuln? |
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| 03:15:29 | <h2ibot> | OrIdow6 edited IRC/Logs (+96, Add hatnote going to the AT IRC logs, since…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=64245&oldid=63195 |
| 03:26:35 | <DigitalDragons> | the AT wiki is on old versions of both PHP and MediaWiki so that might be a Fun(tm) upgrade process |
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| 03:27:17 | <@JAA> | It's far more complicated than that and indeed very Fun™. |
| 03:28:38 | <DigitalDragons> | oh no |
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| 03:31:06 | <DigitalDragons> | hope all goes well then |
| 03:31:24 | <Dango360> | with the version numbers, it seems to have been last updated around 2021/2022 |
| 03:31:29 | <Dango360> | https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Special:Version |
| 03:32:11 | <Dango360> | https://www.php.net/ChangeLog-7.php#7.4.33 |
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| 03:35:05 | <tzt> | fileformats wiki is on 5.6.38 |
| 03:35:50 | <Dango360> | oh. god. |
| 03:36:28 | <Dango360> | i'm surprised it's not on 1.0.0 or something |
| 03:37:04 | <@JAA> | Archival-grade software! |
| 03:37:34 | <Dango360> | new stuff sucks anyways, the past was always better |
| 03:38:17 | <Dango360> | oh god mediawiki is on 1.19.2 |
| 03:38:25 | <Dango360> | it *is* v1 software |
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| 03:41:28 | <DigitalDragons> | https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Release_notes/1.19#MediaWiki_1.19.2 |
| 03:41:44 | <DigitalDragons> | > 2012-08-31 |
| 03:43:12 | <Dango360> | signs of good quality http://fileformats.archiveteam.org/thumbsup.png |
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| 04:42:37 | <nicolas17> | huh |
| 04:42:51 | <nicolas17> | Jason tweeted he was turning fileformats wiki off due to the PHP vuln |
| 04:42:53 | <@JAA> | Main wiki and the two IA wikis are now down. |
| 04:42:56 | <nicolas17> | but the site works for me |
| 04:43:09 | <@JAA> | Yep, I asked Jason to do the same for fileformats. |
| 04:46:18 | <DigitalDragons> | (there are two IA wikis?) |
| 04:46:38 | <@JAA> | :-) |
| 04:48:36 | <nicolas17> | it's just weird that he posted "I am taking the file formats Wiki down as a precaution" an hour ago and it's still up :p |
| 04:49:19 | <DigitalDragons> | what's the other IA wiki? |
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| 07:00:30 | <pabs> | arkiver: botfree-proxy has an input field expecting the value "I am human" https://sh0.xyz/repos/gemini/botfree-proxy.git - example site is https://sh0.xyz/ |
| 07:01:17 | <haiseiko> | what happen on server? |
| 07:01:24 | <pabs> | arkiver: botfree-proxy has an input field expecting the value "I am human" https://sh0.xyz/repos/gemini/botfree-proxy.git - example site is https://sh0.xyz/ |
| 07:01:45 | <haiseiko> | server back http status 503 |
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| 09:01:37 | <klea> | DigitalDragons: There's 3 wikis, internetarchive. wiki. fileformats. |
| 09:02:56 | | klea wonders if JAA will take care of setting the default skin to vector when they upgrade the wikis. |
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| 09:03:23 | <@JAA> | No, there are four wikis. |
| 09:05:04 | <klea> | Huh? |
| 09:05:11 | <@JAA> | But one only gets a couple ten thousand HTTP requests per month, so it's very unknown. Even here, apparently. lol |
| 09:05:24 | <klea> | Could you talk more about it? |
| 09:05:53 | <@JAA> | (Our main wiki gets something like a million per day, for reference.) |
| 09:06:34 | <@JAA> | I'm wondering whether it's even been mentioned anywhere here before. |
| 09:06:44 | <klea> | oh, justsolve. |
| 09:06:50 | <@JAA> | No, that's an alias. |
| 09:06:51 | <klea> | no. |
| 09:07:00 | <klea> | 2026-10-21 09:06:34 <@JAA> I'm wondering whether it's even been mentioned anywhere here before. <- I am now curious. |
| 09:07:04 | <klea> | Is it even backed up? |
| 09:08:39 | <klea> | wtf, https://digitize.archiveteam.org "Hello Archive Team org" :p |
| 09:09:13 | <@JAA> | A quick search seems to indicate this fourth wiki has never been mentioned in a publicly logged channel. |
| 09:09:23 | <klea> | pff. |
| 09:09:25 | <@JAA> | Yeah, digitize was a fifth one. |
| 09:09:36 | | klea is very curious now. |
| 09:10:13 | <@JAA> | I thought it was mentioned somewhere on the AT wiki. I'd check, but... |
| 09:10:19 | <klea> | lol |
| 09:11:11 | <klea> | huh, you even blocked the dumps? |
| 09:11:16 | | klea bonks JAA, lightly. |
| 09:11:46 | | klea bonks JAA for putting https://archive.org/details/archiveteam.org_wiki_dumps_202411 in the archiveteam-inbox. |
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| 11:56:49 | <triplecamera|m> | 🤔 |
| 11:58:05 | <triplecamera|m> | Is Jason Scott still participating in Archive Team affairs? |
| 11:58:29 | <triplecamera|m> | I wish he could provide guidance to newcomers (like me) |
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| 12:27:00 | <AK> | Even goit an email from Netcup letting me know about it |
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| 13:00:07 | <@arkiver> | pokechu22: pabs: thank you for the challenges! |
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| 14:15:49 | <klea> | IA down? |
| 14:17:39 | <awauwa> | the PHP patches just released, my guess is that they are probably busy updating like everyone else |
| 14:18:03 | <klea> | Probably. |
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| 14:23:28 | <NF885> | also looks like https://www.php2shell.com/ exists now if someone wants to ArchiveBot it |
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| 15:14:14 | <@JAA> | triplecamera|m: No, he's hardly involved anymore except for some hysterical raisins. |
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| 17:07:41 | <masterx244|m> | if the unfucking takes longer some form of temporary deathwatch management via some external etherpad gets needed (and pointers to the important channels on a static placeholder page. |
| 17:07:41 | <masterx244|m> | maybe link the IRC channels on the 503 page so at least some way to find here exists |
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| 17:19:06 | <mgrandi> | https://www.bioware.com/ is being shut down according to reuters |
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| 17:19:35 | <wickedplayer494> | And Bloomberg's Schreier: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GopCYu89gJ4 |
| 17:20:18 | <klea> | masterx244|m: Reports over IRC, they are logged at least here! |
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| 17:33:10 | <@JAA> | Wiki downtime will depend on external factors, but the goal is to keep it as short as possible. Might be a couple days though. |
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| 17:39:54 | <klea> | JAA: Can you make the last dumps available for download at least?, it seems annoying having to rely on outdated data, and I'm thinking of possibly trying to generate a staticised version of the pages if you want to put something for those couple days. |
| 17:45:58 | <@JAA> | klea: Yeah, will check. Else I can upload it to transfer at least. |
| 17:46:04 | <klea> | Ack, thanks. |
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| 18:14:59 | <justauser> | arkiver: https://sh0.xyz/cgi-bin/gemgit.pyz/ has a neat legal-looking form to confirm you are not a bot. |
| 18:19:36 | <klea> | It's also a anti JAA firewall, since JAA can't type a wrongly spelt message. |
| 18:20:05 | <klea> | > **EXECUTION RESTRICTION:** If you reside in, operate from, or deploy services in any jurisdiction that mandates software developers or hosters to integrate age verification, identity validation, or age-gating mechanisms, **YOU ARE STRICTLY PROHIBITED FROM COMPILING, EXECUTING, HOSTING, OR DEPLOYING THIS SOFTWARE AS A RUNNING APPLICATION.** |
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| 18:33:42 | <masterx244|m> | klea: for now only those that know the way can report to here. |
| 18:33:42 | <masterx244|m> | the usual route to here was via the wiki. thats why i mentioned the link to IRC on the error page |
| 18:33:45 | <masterx244|m> | page to JAA |
| 18:33:57 | <klea> | Yeah. |
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| 18:42:13 | <@JAA> | Yep |
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| 18:44:25 | <klea> | huh, AT has a enwiki page. |
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| 18:54:03 | | steering wonders if there's an easy way to mirror atwiki |
| 18:54:35 | <steering> | (i mean, other than writing some hellish cronjob) |
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| 19:17:41 | <klea> | JAA makes atwiki dumps available in XML format. |
| 19:18:06 | <steering> | yeah, that would be the aforementioned hellish cronjob |
| 19:18:37 | <klea> | Then you'd run a MediaWiki instance on a LAN isolated from worms, and then inject the XML file and run httrac or something to capture every single page, then turn those into html, and there you go. |
| 19:18:53 | <klea> | 2026-10-21 19:18:06 <steering> yeah, that would be the aforementioned hellish cronjob <- I guess you can run WikiTeam tooling if you want to, but the site needs to be available. |
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| 21:30:30 | <Webuser328585> | donk.sh excluded from the wayback machine |
| 21:30:31 | <Ryz> | Unsure if this is posted, but this may be a concern when it comes to internet archiving :c - https://arstechnica.com/security/2026/10/the-internet-goes-on-high-alert-after-discovery-of-8-compromised-tls-certs/ |
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| 21:35:34 | <pokechu22> | Ryz: yeah, we saved https://emudhra.we-have-a-problem.com/ https://emudhra.com/ https://emudhradigital.com/ yesterday for that. Technically it doesn't affect archivebot since archivebot doesn't verify certificates at all but it's definitely concerning |
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| 23:14:54 | <nicolas17> | pokechu22: did we archive https://dv-g3b-emudhra.we-have-a-problem.com/ and did it succeed? (which if you verify certificates and have a proper revocation list, should fail) |
| 23:15:22 | <nicolas17> | it's mentioned (though not <a> linked) from https://emudhra.we-have-a-problem.com/, so I guess archivebot crawled it... |
| 23:17:15 | <pokechu22> | Yes, pabs ran that one and it got a 200 (because AB does not verify certificates) |
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| 23:48:51 | <pabs> | https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-10-21/electronic-arts-to-cut-400-jobs-shut-down-bioware |
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