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00:02:24<Nemoralis>I think that's the full size. It's kind of a new website, yeah, but still important
00:03:29<pokechu22>Archivbot job started; you can watch the progress at http://archivebot.com/?initialFilter=kinoyazar.az . It should appear on web.archive.org in a few days (maybe up to a week, since there's an upload backlog currently)
00:04:14<Nemoralis>thanks! btw, is there a way for me to join ArchiveTeam and help with these kinds of requests? I'd also be interested in running archives or helping with grabs if volunteers are needed
00:04:46<Nemoralis>I am volunteer (developer) on Wikimedia (foundation that hosts Wikipedia)
00:05:27<katia>i think you have joined :p
00:06:14<pokechu22>Archivebot specifically isn't a distributed project - pipelines can be ran by trusted individuals but you need to be around for a while. There are various distributed projects though through Warrior that you can contribute bandwidth to, e.g. https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Weebly . But just letting us know about sites that are closing is very helpful too :)
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00:14:49<Nemoralis>thanks! I downloaded the Warrior
00:17:40<Nemoralis>Another site that might be worth archiving: the Azerbaijani service of Voice of America (Amerikanın Səsi), https://www.amerikaninsesi.org/
00:17:40<Nemoralis>They have a very large archive of Azerbaijani-language articles, going back at least to 2010, and presumably a lot of older material as well. There are also public domain photos, audio and video
00:18:22<Nemoralis>its main page is completely empty because Trump decided to shut down it: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvge4l109r3o
00:23:27<pokechu22>We went through a lot of voice of america sites in May 2025 as a warrior project (https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Voice_of_America), though I'm not sure if that data is on web.archive.org yet? The captures on https://web.archive.org/web/20251001000000*/https://amerikaninsesi.org mostly seem to be from #// (which frequently grabs data from news sites sourced from
00:23:29<pokechu22>wikidata and other lists, but mostly hasn't been indexed yet)
00:26:25<pokechu22>ah, https://web.archive.org/web/20250329045619/https://www.amerikaninsesi.org/a/8010907.html and https://web.archive.org/web/20250520160528/https://www.amerikaninsesi.org/a/8011690.html/ are from that (not sure why the latter one has a / at the end)
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00:52:10<Nemoralis>By the way, do you know why the Wayback Machine extension's (Firefox) "Save Page Now" button doesn't work anymore? It simply does nothing when clicked.
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00:54:30<pepsi2024>just checked, works for me
00:57:51<Nemoralis>hmm, works in Chromium. But not Firefox, I need to dig deeper to find the cause
00:58:49<pepsi2024>im on firefox, maybe site specific?
00:59:32<Nemoralis>any website
01:00:04<Nemoralis>on Chromium, when I click the button, I see the progress bar and notification about archival. This doesn't happen on Firefox
01:01:04<pokechu22>Does using https://web.archive.org/save/ directly work?
01:01:26<Nemoralis>yes
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01:16:07<Nemoralis>pepsi2024: are you using this extension? https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/wayback-machine_new/
01:16:34<Nemoralis>because, there is also https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/wayback-machine-official/
01:17:03<Nemoralis>wayback-machine_new says "Last updated 4 years ago"
01:17:04<Umbire>ooh, lemme swap for that
01:18:24<pepsi2024>the "-official" has 50 users
01:18:42<Nemoralis>yeah that looks like a fake extension
01:18:47<pepsi2024>yea
01:19:08<Nemoralis>and https://github.com/internetarchive/wayback-machine-webextension#installing-the-extension points to the "_new"
01:19:29<Nemoralis>I am using "_new"
01:20:09<pepsi2024>me too
01:22:10<pepsi2024>try checking here about:debugging#/runtime/this-firefox
01:24:01<Umbire>hmmm
01:24:17<Umbire>"User since
01:24:17<Umbire> 25 Mar 2026"
01:24:19<Umbire>hmmmmmmmmmmmm
01:25:25<Nemoralis>ok, found it
01:26:02<Nemoralis>I had `privacy.firstparty.isolate = true` enabled, which was causing cookie issues with archive.org.
01:39:40<Umbire>ah
01:42:35<AccelArch>I noticed Turtle WoW (private WoW server, turtle-wow.org) is only on the Deathwatch list, with no official project/channel set up yet. The server itself already shut down (2026-05-14) after the legal ruling, but the forum and social media are still up until 2026-10-16. Has anyone already done a full save of the site/forum/socials? I'm considering
01:42:35<AccelArch>running it myself if not.
01:46:40<AccelArch>Correction: the site is actually forum.turtlecraft.gg
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03:46:33<Webuser932711>Could someone please archive this link? https://nichijou.wiki.gg/wiki/Special:Contributions/Excalibur777
03:46:33<Webuser932711>I already tried twice on the wayback machine, but it just displays a captcha or blocked message
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03:48:54<Webuser932711>Could somebody also archive these URLS too since they're also giving me the same message: https://nichijou.wiki.gg/wiki/User:Excalibur777?action=edit
03:48:54<Webuser932711>https://nichijou.wiki.gg/wiki/User_talk:Excalibur777?action=edit
03:48:54<Webuser932711>https://nichijou.wiki.gg/wiki/Special:Contributions/Xiong_Mao
03:48:54<Webuser932711>https://nichijou.wiki.gg/wiki/User:Xiong_Mao?action=edit
03:48:54<Webuser932711>https://nichijou.wiki.gg/wiki/User_talk:Xiong_Mao?action=history
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04:29:36<Dango360>https://github.com/internetarchive/wayback-machine-webextension has version 3.2, which is 4 years ago... uh
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05:16:01<pokechu22>!tell AccelArch We ran those with archivebot: https://archive.fart.website/archivebot/viewer/?q=turtlecraft.gg https://archive.fart.website/archivebot/viewer/?q=turtle-wow.org
05:16:02<eggdrop>[tell] ok, I'll tell AccelArch when they join next
05:19:04<pokechu22>Webuser932711: Hmm, not sure if there's anything we can do about their current cloudflare setup
05:19:32<Webuser932711>pokechu22 So... archivebot can't bypass cloudflare?
05:19:36<pokechu22>They often restrict those pages because they are more expensive to render and random AI crawlers like to hit them
05:20:15<Webuser932711>I see...
05:20:24<pokechu22>It can't, and #jseater doesn't seem to work for it either
05:20:46<pokechu22>We can probably export the wiki's history in #wikibot though
05:21:04<Webuser932711>Ok, try doing that
05:21:07<Webuser932711>please
05:21:18<pokechu22>Looks like it was done last year, will start another one: https://archive.org/details/wiki-nichijou.wiki.gg-20250612
05:23:54<pokechu22>Job started, you can watch progress on https://wikibot.digitaldragon.dev/ and it'll be uploaded to https://archive.org/search?query=originalurl%3A%28%2Anichijou.wiki.gg%2A%29
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05:33:05<Umbire>my question was gonna be "why do you need specifically those users' pages"
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08:29:03<PaulPD>https://www.wired.it/article/wired-italia-chiude-ultimo-editoriale/ CLOSURE NOTICE. Wired.it was a well respected web journal about technology. Preservation worthy in my opinion. 17 years of articles.
08:31:41<katia>PaulPD, grazie, i started a job on archivebot.
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11:30:51<h2ibot>Arkiver uploaded File:Navertv-screenshot.png: https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?title=File%3ANavertv-screenshot.png
11:30:52<h2ibot>Arkiver uploaded File:Weebly-screenshot.png: https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?title=File%3AWeebly-screenshot.png
11:31:51<h2ibot>Arkiver uploaded File:Photohito-screenshot.png: https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?title=File%3APhotohito-screenshot.png
11:35:52<h2ibot>Arkiver uploaded File:Photohito-icon.png: https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?title=File%3APhotohito-icon.png
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12:09:44<@arkiver>klea: that edit ^ , if i set something to weight 0, can it be left out?
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12:54:25<h2ibot>Cruller edited PhpBB (+410, Added a (tentative) server list): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=63944&oldid=62693
12:55:58<cruller>I wonder why the link to the raw list for [[Deaths_in_YYYY]] broke. https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Deaths_in_2023&diff=54791&oldid=50836
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13:10:47<cruller>Fun fact: https://www.fora.pl/ is a group of several hundred forums powered by phpBB, while https://www.fora.com/ is a group of over 1,000 forums based on XenForo; the two are unrelated.
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13:14:44<cruller>More info: https://xenforo.com/community/threads/a-quick-peek-at-fora-com-s-modified-xenforo-community-software.224690/
13:15:49<exorcism|matrix>Too many project, wtf is going 😭
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13:22:42<h2ibot>Cruller edited Deathwatch (+355, /* 2026-09 */ Add Taschenlampen-Forum.de — Thx…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=63945&oldid=63928
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14:19:31<klea>arkiver: I guses it can be done, if that's what you want.
14:23:45<klea>Done.
14:23:48<h2ibot>KleaBot edited Main Page/Current Warrior Project (-109, Default projects are now weebly (weight 0.5),…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=63946&oldid=63943
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16:09:44<h2ibot>Skankhunt42 created 네이버TV (+22, Redirected page to [[Naver TV]]): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?oldid=63947
16:14:45<h2ibot>Exorcism uploaded File:Zapytaj-onet screenshot.png: https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?title=File%3AZapytaj-onet%20screenshot.png
16:14:46<h2ibot>Exorcism edited Zapytaj Onet (+35): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=63949&oldid=63931
16:14:47<h2ibot>Exorcism edited Zapytaj Onet (-5, typo): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=63950&oldid=63949
16:19:45<h2ibot>Exorcism edited Weebly (+36): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=63951&oldid=63920
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18:34:33<mrblizzard|m>for some reason I can't send messages in #archivebot so can someone please get archive bot to do https://sagexpo.org/ as it has alot of indie game demos hosted on there a minority store the downloads externally but most of the downloads belong to the site itself
18:39:27<mrblizzard|m>okay nvm the message sent
18:39:29<mrblizzard|m>my bad guys
18:40:51<justauser>pokechu22: Actually, forum.turtlecraft.gg didn't work in AB.
18:40:51<justauser>mrblizzard|m: That's "normal" for Matrix - don't expect it to work well in this channel.
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18:42:38<mrblizzard|m>justauser: oh yea good point 😭
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18:44:07<mrblizzard|m>wait I'm on my matrix.org matrix account too that makes this even worse
18:46:39<justauser>?
18:47:04<@JAA>You're not even in #archivebot currently.
18:47:07<@JAA>Matrix moment
18:47:51<klea>JAA needs to start having all AT channels be -n :-P
18:47:59<IDK>!kfind matrix
18:47:59<eggdrop>[karma] 6 matches for 'matrix': uMatrix: '5' matrixfuxX: '1' <@runxiyu-/rx> matrix: '0' <+exxxxkc/rx> Matrix: '0' <&runxiyu/rx> matrix: '0' matrix: '-70'
18:48:09<IDK>matrix--
18:48:09<eggdrop>[karma] 'matrix' now has -71 karma!
18:48:12<IDK>matrix--++
18:48:12<eggdrop>[karma] 'matrix--' now has 1 karma!
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18:59:22<@JAA>Now your message made it there.
18:59:32<@JAA>Yeah, the delays are pretty ridiculous.
19:01:05<klea>Another question I have about the matrix bridge is, are there matrix servers fetching URLs sent over it?
19:03:40<justauser>I think Element does, by default. Servers are not supposed to do it, but we saw it once.
19:04:01<f_>justauser: no, servers do it
19:04:32<f_>IIRC the client requests the server for a URL preview and the server fetches the URL and sends the preview
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19:14:29<eggdrop>[tell] invadeuz: [2026-09-11T17:42:52Z] <pokechu22> The first WARC has been uploaded and indexed at https://archive.fart.website/archivebot/viewer/job/5l38c, containing wp-sitemap.xml itself for all of the blogs and the sitemaps in wp-sitemap.xml for the first thousand blogs (through https://kohti.noblogs.org), though it's mixed in with images from the home page of blogs. That's probably going to be the most
19:14:30<eggdrop>[tell] invadeuz: [2026-09-11T17:44:59Z] <pokechu22> convenient form as more WARCs get uploaded.
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19:21:42<invadeuz>Hi, several days ago pokechu22 told me about an archive job , https://archive.fart.website/archivebot/viewer/job/5l38c for all noblogs subdomains without outlinks.
19:21:42<invadeuz>Since A/I effectively shut down , can someone tell me if the job was complete before the shutdown or if it remains unfinished ?
19:22:50<klea>There's no json, so I think the job is still going.
19:23:32<invadeuz>I see. It's a bad sign then :/
19:24:40<invadeuz>I though that there was 2 days before the upload so it could have finished and not uploaded , no?
19:24:49<@JAA>klea: Why check when you can just speculate?
19:24:49<klea>hmm, yeah, true.
19:25:26<klea>2026-09-19 19:24:49 <@JAA> klea: Why check when you can just speculate? <- I would have to open /finished (which I am doing now), or check logs, because it can't be in my history since my irc host was restarted?, and I had opened the url first.
19:25:39<klea>5l38c8aug4w989eodhz0wutyw was finished a day ago.
19:25:47<@JAA>Yes, so check before you reply with speculation.
19:26:21<klea>My guess is based on stale data, fix the part where there's stale data?
19:27:00<@JAA>/finished isn't stale.
19:27:16<@JAA>Nor is the viewer.
19:27:30<klea>2026-09-19 19:27:16 <@JAA> Nor is the viewer. <- The viewer shows data that is stale, since the job finished and there's no json.
19:27:47<@JAA>It's an index of data that is on IA.
19:27:49<klea>The viewer in a while will show correct data, but currently not, since it's not on IA.
19:28:02<@JAA>The data isn't incorrect.
19:28:04<klea>2026-09-19 19:27:47 <@JAA> It's an index of data that is on IA. <- Yes, and only the main page has the notice that it's an index.
19:29:01<invadeuz>Is there a way to know if all noblogs subdomains were caught in the job ? Or could it have finished without some blogs ?
19:29:19<klea>IiRC JAA got a list of errors, and then pokechu22 ran the tidied version of those.
19:29:40<klea>hmm, ran as !ao, unless they later used another URL for the actual job.
19:30:19<klea>oh, yes, everything that was possible to get and not broken was grabbed.
19:30:44<pokechu22>invadeuz: The job is complete except for a very small number of URLs (mostly large videos/audio files), which I think were gotten by previous jobs
19:33:56<invadeuz>OK , amazing ! We'll just wait for it to appear fully on our end then.
19:33:57<invadeuz>Thanks again !
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19:37:40<pokechu22>https://transfer.archivete.am/inline/5IdJV/5l38c8aug4w989eodhz0wutyw-errors-tidied.txt specifically is the list of broken URLs, but some of them are on subdomains that were broken at the time
19:39:40<pokechu22>There were also a few blogs that were broken when the job was started but we were told came back afterwards; https://transfer.archivete.am/X0mgF/broken-noblogs.txt https://archive.fart.website/archivebot/viewer/?q=3q0mud20kyp14b510svudszaa should eventually cover those
19:39:41<eggdrop>inline (for browser viewing): https://transfer.archivete.am/inline/X0mgF/broken-noblogs.txt
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