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06:11:03<lsab101205>Hi! I'm doing some preservation research on a lost 2007 GameTrailers video and I've traced it pretty deep into ArchiveTeam's 2016 GameTrailers crawl. I'm hoping someone familiar with that project/raw WARCs might be able to point me in the right direction.
06:11:03<lsab101205>The Internet Archive MegaWARC item I'm looking at is:
06:11:03<lsab101205>`archiveteam_gametrailers_2016062603290000`
06:11:03<lsab101205>It's currently access-restricted. The crawler batch I'm interested in is `10videos:1933`, and I believe the relevant individual file should be something like:
06:11:03<lsab101205>`gametrailers-10videos_1933-*.warc.gz`
06:11:03<lsab101205>The two GameTrailers IDs are `19338` and `19339`.
06:11:03<lsab101205>The original media filenames I'm specifically hunting are:
06:11:04<lsab101205>`t_xbox360_springupdate_im_int_gt_h264.wmv`
06:11:04<lsab101205>`t_xbox360_springupdate_im_int_gt_h264.mov`
06:11:05<lsab101205>`t_xbox360_springupdate_im_int_gt.wmv`
06:11:05<lsab101205>`t_xbox360_springupdate_im_int_gt.mov`
06:11:06<lsab101205>Does anyone know whether there's a way to search/index the contents of these old MegaWARCs, obtain the individual WARC rather than the full ~127 GB object, or whether any original/staging copies from the GameTrailers project still exist?
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06:12:14<lsab101205>I've also contacted Internet Archive directly about access to the restricted MegaWARC, but figured someone here may remember how the GameTrailers crawl was packaged or whether individual WARCs still exist anywhere.
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06:27:18<pokechu22>If that filename is already known, shouldn't you be able to find the relevant URL on web.archive.org?
06:27:26<pokechu22>not familiar with gametrailers at all
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06:44:33<lsab101205>Yeah, that was my first thought too. I’ve checked the known/likely original URLs directly in Wayback, including download.gametrailers.com/gt_vault/t_xbox360_springupdate_im_int_gt.mov and the WMV/H.264 variants, but none of them have captures.
06:44:33<lsab101205>The reason I’m looking at the raw ArchiveTeam crawl is that I’ve traced the relevant GameTrailers IDs to crawler batch 10videos:1933, so I’m trying to determine whether the file was captured under another URL/redirect or exists in the raw WARC even though the obvious URL isn’t exposed in Wayback.
07:04:13<pokechu22>Yeah, not listed on https://web.archive.org/cdx/search/cdx?url=download.gametrailers.com&collapse=urlkey&matchType=domain&fl=original&limit=100000&showResumeKey=true&resumeKey= at least
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09:36:01<c3manu>currently manually going through web searches for www.inventati.org. a webuser ("ArchiveItNow") yesterday pointed me to https://www.inventati.org/archivio_ecn/, which wasn't discovered by #archivebot from what i can see in the WBM
09:36:15<c3manu>looks like there are a few more like that
09:36:57<c3manu>like this for example: https://www.inventati.org/cope/wp/
09:37:21<c3manu>a bit worrysome considering those all seem to be archives of dead websites themselves so fgar
09:37:23<c3manu>*far
09:39:55<c3manu>site:https://www.inventati.org/cafavale/Archivio/ gives some results which all point to 404s :/
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10:29:38<@arkiver>just so everyone knows, when we have an active project with a special channel, i plan on at least once posting a call for donations. i'm really hoping we can somehow increase incoming donations on opencollective.com/archiveteam with at least 200 euro/month, so we can handle long term recurring costs better.
10:30:26<@arkiver>everyone flowing out of opencollective.com/archiveteam is transparent, so everyone can also see that this is used for good purposes
10:30:32<skankhunt42>thrown my head in yesterday, not much but at least finally giving something
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10:31:08<@arkiver>so you might see these calls every now and then, announcing it here since i don't want it to sound greedy or anything, just so people know. and all is transparent as noted
10:31:53<@arkiver>skankhunt42: i saw yes, that monthly amount will almost offset an entire month per year of colo costs (without extra energy), so that is pretty significant
10:34:27<skankhunt42>just hope I can keep it up, might throw around some VPS costs / cancel some
10:36:27<@arkiver>skankhunt42: just know it is appreciated! if at some point it cannot continue, then that is also fine, no need to worry about that or feel bad about that
10:36:36<skankhunt42><3
10:36:45<c3manu>anarcat: you don't happen to have a list of archived websites in directories like https://www.inventati.org/khalas/, https://www.inventati.org/radiobandita/chisiamo.html, https://www.inventati.org/hcnonsicomanda/ etc. do you?
10:38:08<klea>There's even more than the ones listed on
10:38:12<klea>https://archive.inventati.org/?
10:38:54<@arkiver>i think we will also not proactively/explicitly thank people for donating, especially since i want to prevent any kind of "influence buying" and special privileges. just know that anything donated is put to very good use, and help keep all of this running (you can see that for yourself on opencollective).
10:39:36<c3manu>klea: that's a list of those that aren't, see https://inventati.org/bellalink/ for example
10:39:58<klea>ah.
10:40:02<klea>Annoying :(
10:40:34<c3manu>i'm just glad they exist in the first place. i've gone through 20 of those by now and i suspect there's more; don't want to miss anything if possible
10:42:19<c3manu>looks like some of those even get updated still...wow https://www.inventati.org/pravda/
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11:32:11<Paw-chivist>Hi ! Shall we create a short-term project pour Zapytaj.onet.pl ?
11:32:35<klea>Paw-chivist: → #niepytaj
11:32:48<Paw-chivist>Perfect, thank you !
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13:34:41<anarcat>pokechu22: b9nxh9izpv0sr5fd037ps7vlu seems stuck
13:34:46<anarcat>c3manu: i'll ask
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14:45:04<anarcat>i'm having trouble talking with archivebot
14:45:14<anarcat>i want to crawl the blogs in https://transfer.archivete.am/X0mgF/broken-noblogs.txt without outlinks
14:45:15<eggdrop>inline (for browser viewing): https://transfer.archivete.am/inline/X0mgF/broken-noblogs.txt
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14:45:29<anarcat>i tried !ao < foo and it's refusing
14:45:42<anarcat>those are blogs that were broken during the big crawl which A/I says should be recrawled
14:55:31<anarcat>pabs / JAA / pokechu22: could you please crawl https://transfer.archivete.am/X0mgF/broken-noblogs.txt? A/I said they should be recrawled as the sites were broken during the big crawl
14:55:31<eggdrop>inline (for browser viewing): https://transfer.archivete.am/inline/X0mgF/broken-noblogs.txt?
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15:14:18<c3manu>anarcat: '!a <' jobs require operator permissions, but the bot gives no error message when a user without them attempts it. i just queued it
15:14:41<anarcat>thanks c3manu
15:14:55<anarcat>any idea what's up with b9nxh9izpv0sr5fd037ps7vlu ? it seems completely hung here
15:15:41<c3manu>anarcat: b9nxh9izpv0sr5fd037ps7vlu likely seemed stuck due to the ignores pokechu22 added recently. it was dismissing a large number of URLs (ignored URLs are not shown in the log by default) which made it look that way. b9nxh9izpv0sr5fd037ps7vlu seems to have finished in the meantime
15:15:54<anarcat>cool
15:16:31<anarcat>oh wow, that completed too, that's unexpected
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15:22:48<anarcat>c3manu: https://transfer.archivete.am/hdHJR/ai-subsite-list.txt⏎
15:22:49<eggdrop>inline (for browser viewing): https://transfer.archivete.am/inline/hdHJR/ai-subsite-list.txt⏎
15:22:53<anarcat>c3manu: https://transfer.archivete.am/hdHJR/ai-subsite-list.txt
15:23:53<c3manu>anarcat: thanks for the list!
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15:31:10<lsab101205>Thanks pokechu re: gametrailers on the archive, that's actually useful. I pulled the full result and confirmed none of the known Spring Update filenames, or even spring/dashboard/update, appear in the public CDX index for download.gametrailers.com. So I think the remaining question is specifically whether the 2016 ArchiveTeam raw WARC contains
15:31:10<lsab101205>records that aren't exposed in the public CDX index. I've never really done something like this before so I'm learning as I go.
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16:23:47<h2ibot>KleaBot edited Main Page/Current Warrior Project (+265, Default projects are now weebly (weight…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=63910&oldid=63905
16:25:20klea looks at arkiver's percentages after normalization, wonders how many warriors are using versions older than the multi project update.
16:25:44<@arkiver>klea: yeah those would be going to the urlteam2 project now
16:25:53<justauser>Why?
16:26:09<justauser>Last time I checked, URLTeam was already seriously overwarriored.
16:26:16<@arkiver>ah
16:26:17<@arkiver>hmm
16:26:34<@arkiver>i'll make them Telegram, but I'm going to stash the old stashes of Telegram away
16:26:36<@arkiver>for now
16:26:50<@arkiver>since space is really expensive, but we should keep up to date with the newly queue Telegram stuff
16:27:27<klea>AFAIK the URLTeam project had a item popping up rate equal to the rate of warriors getting items, but the touching the knobs needed to be done manually?
16:30:46<eggdrop>[remind] pokechu22: re-crawl https://keepitfree.ai/
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17:13:57<c3manu>anarcat++
17:13:58<eggdrop>[karma] 'anarcat' now has 7 karma!
17:14:00<c3manu>there's so much in there
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17:17:36<anarcat>yw
17:18:46<pokechu22>anarcat: b9nxh9izpv0sr5fd037ps7vlu crashed due to a malformed URL in an outlink and can't be resumed. It's redundant to 5l38c8aug4w989eodhz0wutyw which covers everything though
17:18:58<anarcat>got it
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18:14:27<justauser>arkiver: More cookie checks: https://forge.starlightnet.work/ https://forged.synth.download/ https://kitty.tel/ https://nixwiz.network/ .
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19:02:56<alkamaass>is downloading archived google videos a thing?
19:03:09<alkamaass>like i see on archive.org they are locked for download
19:04:12<klea>alkamaass: → #down-the-tube (And they can be accessed individually)
19:05:07<pokechu22>Is #down-the-tube for google video as well, or only youtube?
19:05:25<klea>oh, google videos != youtube, sorry.
19:05:40<pokechu22>https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Google_Video_(Archive) says -bs (there was a channel on efnet before)
19:06:35<klea>ah.
19:06:36<alkamaass>google videos and youtube both existing is so weird
19:06:50<alkamaass>yeah it seems like it says you can just put in url of video into archive.org
19:06:53<alkamaass>or rather the id
19:07:40<klea>I suppose you put the url.
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19:28:38<alkamaass>yeah but I'm trying to follow the instructions at https://archive.org/details/google_video and I can't figure out how to work it
19:29:12<klea>That collection is not ours, it's one made by IA.
19:29:37<klea>I suppose you can ask info@ if you can't get some specific video via the wayback machine.
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21:15:54<websy>does anyone still have the gitorious archive?
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