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07:35:48<twiswist_>This isn't something that can be scraped, but is Kiliaro (a photo cloud) shutting down? I heard my mother's telecom carrier told her that they will stop offering Kiliaro after August 30th, but it's still there. Looking into it, there is now a recent (2026-08-19, unsure if post date or update date) article with a full backup tool: https://kiliaro.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/14756991589650-Exporting-or-Downloading-All-Your-Data-from-Kil
07:35:48<twiswist_>iaro
07:36:03<twiswist_>(apologies for the cut-off url)
07:37:17<twiswist_>It's also linked from www.kiliaro.com at the bottom, but wbm is down, so I can't see if the button was there before
07:38:22<twiswist_>It's either renaming to or being acquired by Pixfam: https://www.pixfam.com/press-releases/29876EFEA5181ADF-kiliaro-group-ab-blir-pixfam-ab https://mb.cision.com/Public/22089/4240232/8951a4659573fefd.pdf
07:41:19<twiswist_>I'll be afk for 12+ hours
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09:46:34<c3manu>pokechu22: what's the current state of affairs for noblogs.org btw? i haven't been following that closely, but i think the run 2025-10 is incomplete due to a bad ignore, and the list you queued recently is significantly shorter.
09:46:57<c3manu>pokechu22: does that mean we actually never ran the noblogs.org subdomains in their entirety?
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17:08:28<pokechu22>c3manu: The remaining subdomains from the job with the bad ignore were cleaned up in https://archive.fart.website/archivebot/viewer/job/20260423191907f30pz
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17:47:57<invadeuz>hi
17:48:57<justauser>Hello?
17:51:01<invadeuz>we wish to do a bulk download of noblogs sites and people pointed us here. I know a little bit of InternetArchive but not enough to know how it would works
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17:54:14<justauser>If you want a copy for yourself, start from https://archive.fart.website/archivebot/viewer/?q=noblogs.org
17:55:32<justauser>https://archive.fart.website/archivebot/viewer/job/20250920010916aenij is the largest pile of data and https://archive.fart.website/archivebot/viewer/job/20260826175807648yx is the latest.
17:55:53<justauser>Both of the pages are lists of links to IA.
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17:56:37<pokechu22>https://archive.fart.website/archivebot/viewer/job/2025103003442267q6q + https://archive.fart.website/archivebot/viewer/job/20260423191907f30pz should be more complete than https://archive.fart.website/archivebot/viewer/job/20250920010916aenij I think - 20250920010916aenij is incomplete due to a pipeline restart. (But it's entirely possible that both contain unique data)
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17:58:28<invadeuz>thanks for the links ! do we have an idea of the quantity of data we are talking about ?
17:58:44<justauser>Tens of GBs, I think.
17:59:05<pokechu22>Those noblogs jobs add up to several terabytes, but they also include outlinks
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17:59:52<pokechu22>https://archive.fart.website/archivebot/viewer/job/20260826175807648yx is significantly smaller (~150 GB), containing posts from all blogs linked from https://noblogs.org/activity/ but not necessarily other stuff
18:00:59<pokechu22>and correction, https://archive.fart.website/archivebot/viewer/job/20250920010916aenij was incomplete due to crashing due to https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/wpull/issues/435, not due to a pipeline restart (there was another one with the same list that died early on due to a restart though)
18:02:04<invadeuz>ok, we were told of roughly 2To by people close to IA, so it checks out.
18:03:08<invadeuz>in what format are the archives ? do you think it's easy with them to extract static sites and republish them ?
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18:04:21<klea>They are stored as WARCs, a container format for storing the raw HTTP(s) transactions ArchiveBot did with those sites.
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18:05:38<justauser> Extracting them to static sites can be sort of done using warcat or similar tools.
18:06:29<justauser>However, it requires that your server considers the files static even if their names end in .php, contain query strings and so on.
18:06:55<justauser>Loading files into pywb or a similar WARC replayer might be easier.
18:07:31<klea>Yeah, and doing that also allows you to later give those warcs to other people, instead of having to give the extracted files out.
18:08:16<pokechu22>noblogs is wordpress at least so treating them as static sites is comparatively easy (most URLs are fairly clean)
18:09:25<invadeuz>justauser "pywb or a similar WARC replayer" -> host them in the same way than waybackmachine ?
18:09:37<justauser>Yes.
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18:10:24<pokechu22>Compare https://archive.inventati.org/
18:12:20<invadeuz>ok I understand, we were thinking of static sites for ease of use and ease of hosting / replicating but it's interesting indeed
18:12:55<pokechu22>Plenty of options once you actually have a copy of the data :)
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18:17:27<invadeuz>thanks for your kind answers, we will see. first I have to empty a disk before trying to retrieve all of that ^^
18:19:27<klea>We could make Deathwatch a index, and then we can have it be small.
18:21:18<invadeuz>klea I didn't get that, dunno what is Deathwatch. But if you have a way to create an archive that is smaller by stripping external links for example, I'm interested
18:21:29<justauser>A very big wiki page.
18:21:49<justauser>I don't think we have good tools for selectively stripping WARCs.
18:22:55<invadeuz>klea what was your idea to "have it be small" then ?
18:23:51<justauser>It's related to the wiki page, not to WARCs.
18:24:13<justauser>Keeping WARCs small is not much of a problem for us, fortunately or not.
18:25:33<klea>IIRC individual WARCs are about 5G?
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18:27:21<invadeuz>okay :)
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18:30:16<pokechu22>Yeah, archivebot creates a new warc at the start of a record when the existing one is at least 5G. (Meaning the warc can be much larger than 5G if it e.g. downloaded 4.9G already and then downloads a 2G file, producing a 6.9G warc... but for small files it'll usually be around 5G)
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18:32:10<klea>hmm, downloaded 4.9G already, and then downloads a 500G file, not producing a warc, and annoying JAA because they have to manually fix the pipeline.
18:33:04<pokechu22>I think the 4.9G warc would survive in that case, but would still break everything else
18:36:52<@JAA>Correct
18:37:13<@JAA>There is at least one WARC of over 500 GB in the AB collection somewhere.
18:37:30<@JAA>(Probably only the one)
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18:52:53<Webuser123185>Hi! I'm trying to find my own old Hyves profile in the ArchiveTeam archive. My name is Lorain Steens, born in 1989, and I lived in Ewijk (Beuningen area), Netherlands. Unfortunately, I don't remember my old Hyves username. I already have the username/WARC index. Is there any way to search the archived Hyves data by real name or location to identify
18:52:53<Webuser123185>my profile? I'd especially love to recover my old photos if they were archived. Thanks!
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18:55:38<Webuser810026>Hi! I'm trying to recover my own old Hyves profile from the ArchiveTeam archive. I don't remember my Hyves username, but I do know my real name and location from that time. I already downloaded the username/WARC index. Is there any way to search the archived profile data by real name instead of username? I'm mainly hoping to recover my old photos
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19:04:48<@JAA>arkiver: https://core.trac.wordpress.org/ and https://plugins.trac.wordpress.org/ have a Hashcash challenge.
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19:30:24<invadeuz>hi, it's me again for the archiving of NoBlogs : is https://archive.fart.website/archivebot/viewer/?q=noblogs.org the only list of NoBlogs blogs who are archived, or is there a broader list ?
19:31:45<pokechu22>That's the list of ones that had individual jobs. There were also !a < list jobs such as https://transfer.archivete.am/ZB8vs/noblogs.org_subdomains_redo_2.txt where every subdomain in that list was recursively crawled
19:31:45<eggdrop>inline (for browser viewing): https://transfer.archivete.am/inline/ZB8vs/noblogs.org_subdomains_redo_2.txt
19:38:15<invadeuz>thanks a lot !
19:43:29<h2ibot>Pokechu22 edited List of websites excluded from the Wayback Machine (+22, + https://nltimes.nl/): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=63862&oldid=63856
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21:56:03<invadeuz>Hi, I just got a list of *all* of the domains of noblogs from someone who got it directly from A/I, there is 22,386 entries while the list you gave me have 14,057 entries. could it means that there could be around 8000 sites not archived by you ?
21:56:03<invadeuz>The list if you are interested : https://cryptpad.fr/file/#/2/file/HDRmnlQvswDDucjwX0whAC4s/
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22:05:16<pokechu22>invadeuz: https://transfer.archivete.am/ZB8vs/noblogs.org_subdomains_redo_2.txt filters out domains that redirected to wp-signup on previous attempts. I'll cross-reference your list with some of the other ones, one minute
22:05:17<eggdrop>inline (for browser viewing): https://transfer.archivete.am/inline/ZB8vs/noblogs.org_subdomains_redo_2.txt
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22:37:07<invadeuz>pokechu22 du you have a list of only wp-signup redirect / sites in error by any chance ?
22:37:54<invadeuz>so we can filter out those ourselves
22:38:03<pokechu22>Not in a clean form, only based on having filtered it out of _redo_2.txt. I'm trying to cross-reference things but my organization is a bit of a mess
22:38:37<pokechu22>I think it was based on https://archive.org/download/archiveteam_archivebot_go_20250918234850_785f76c6/urls-transfer.archivete.am-noblogs.org_subdomains.txt-inf-20250918-033008-3knbx-aborted-wpull.log.gz but there were several lists
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22:43:38<pokechu22>OK, no, I cross-referenced against all https://transfer.archivete.am/xaQCk/noblogs.org_subdomains.txt https://transfer.archivete.am/Rjy3n/noblogs.org_subdomains_redo.txt https://transfer.archivete.am/8Ax9Z/noblogs.org_subdomains_redo_2.txt https://transfer.archivete.am/12RbHH/noblogs.org_new_subdomains_aug_2026_redo.txt and there are another around 8k subdomains that didn't
22:43:40<pokechu22>exist before and only have some coverage from one of the discovery crawls or no coverage at all (e.g. https://antifainfoharburg.noblogs.org/ https://musiciansinswitzerlandagainstapartheid.noblogs.org/ https://testbed.noblogs.org/). I think most of these are just new?
22:43:40<eggdrop>inline (for browser viewing): https://transfer.archivete.am/inline/xaQCk/noblogs.org_subdomains.txt https://transfer.archivete.am/inline/Rjy3n/noblogs.org_subdomains_redo.txt https://transfer.archivete.am/inline/8Ax9Z/noblogs.org_subdomains_redo_2.txt https://transfer.archivete.am/inline/12RbHH/noblogs.org_new_subdomains_aug_2026_redo.txt
22:45:25<pokechu22>https://transfer.archivete.am/12RbHH/noblogs.org_new_subdomains_aug_2026_redo.txt was started before the noblogs.org/activity job finished
22:45:25<eggdrop>inline (for browser viewing): https://transfer.archivete.am/inline/12RbHH/noblogs.org_new_subdomains_aug_2026_redo.txt
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22:49:46<invadeuz>wow, would it be possible to run another crawl with the new ones then ?
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22:51:15<invadeuz>I have no idea about the amount of work it could represent, seems a lot of sites to me
22:52:46<pokechu22>It shouldn't be too bad to do another !a < list, just sorting through things further
22:58:01<pokechu22>The main difficulty was that a few subdomains produced long nonsense URLs like
22:58:03<pokechu22>https://fa86.noblogs.org/www.monde-libertaire.fr/venez-nombreux-lundi-6-janvier-2014-a-14h-accompagner-cerasela-a-la-prefecture/Les-parents-soutiennent-la-famille-russe-menacee-d-expulsion-1867616/Les-parents-soutiennent-la-famille-russe-menacee-d-expulsion-1867616/Les-parents-soutiennent-la-famille-russe-menacee-d-expulsion-1867616/?paged=105 (which is the same as
22:58:05<pokechu22>https://fa86.noblogs.org/?paged=105 ). That probably won't be an issue for these sites because they're probably small if they were never discovered before
22:59:04<@JAA>List rehosted for posterity because CryptPad is a pain: https://transfer.archivete.am/OiDp3/noblogs_2026-08-27_domains.txt
22:59:06<eggdrop>inline (for browser viewing): https://transfer.archivete.am/inline/OiDp3/noblogs_2026-08-27_domains.txt
23:00:40<pokechu22>Huh, https://-.-.-.-.noblogs.org actually has content despite HSTS rejecting it
23:00:52<pokechu22>ah, no, it's a 404
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23:01:05<Webuser876742>Is there any hope for saving deviantart"
23:01:32<pokechu22>but https://o.r.a.-officina-radiostream-autogestita.noblogs.org seems to work?
23:01:39<pokechu22>Webuser876742: What's going on with deviantart?
23:04:21<Webuser876742>pokechu22 it's not closing down, but it's been in decline for a long time. More recently, over the last few years, it's been very "enshittified". One big thing that happened earlier this year was they set a limit of only ten downloads per two weeks (previously it required an account for downloading full quality, but you could still download as much
23:04:21<Webuser876742>as you want)
23:05:59<invadeuz>pokechu22 how do you obtain the data ? on firefox it doesn't seems to work ^^
23:06:00<pokechu22>Looks like some of this is documented at https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/DeviantArt#Download_restriction - there was an archiveteam project to save some data, but not images specifically
23:06:29<pokechu22>invadeuz: `curl -k https://o.r.a.-officina-radiostream-autogestita.noblogs.org`. Firefox doesn't let you bypass HSTS at all. (Archivebot ignores it, though, so it'll be able to save those fine.)
23:06:48<Webuser876742>pokechu22 I am aware, I'm wondering if anyone has found any workarounds or ideas.
23:07:45<Webuser876742>Also I should note that having a paid account doesn't even lift the limit, it merely increases it to be a few times higher. Total cash grab.
23:11:30<twiswist_>Umm just make hundreds of deviantart accounts and one application each :^) What's the problem
23:12:02<twiswist_>I made less than a handful before noticing that gallery-dl doesn't know how to rotate accounts
23:12:22<Webuser876742>twiswist_ Would require approximately ~90,000,000 deviantart accounts
23:12:43<twiswist_>(And wastes a weekly download when it checks a deviation that's already in the download-archive)
23:12:51<twiswist_>gallery-dl--
23:12:51<eggdrop>[karma] 'gallery-dl' now has 0 karma!
23:13:00<pokechu22>Possibly helpful: https://e926.net/wiki_pages/31895#deviantart (this page is SFW)
23:13:06<pokechu22>Apparently wix bought deviantart?
23:13:16<twiswist_>Yes, it uses wix cdn
23:13:50<pokechu22>New noblogs list running in archivebot, 8136 entries: https://transfer.archivete.am/mA5Go/noblogs.org_additional_subdomains_sep_2026.txt
23:13:51<eggdrop>inline (for browser viewing): https://transfer.archivete.am/inline/mA5Go/noblogs.org_additional_subdomains_sep_2026.txt
23:13:53<pokechu22>wix--
23:13:54<eggdrop>[karma] 'wix' now has -54 karma!
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23:15:32<invadeuz>amazing pokechu22 , thanks a lot !
23:16:12<invadeuz>I'll have another 500 Go to download after that I guess x)
23:16:57<invadeuz>I'll get some sleep it's going late, have a great day / night and thanks again for your works !
23:17:00<pokechu22>Eh, it should probably be smaller
23:17:29<pokechu22>That one will start appearing at https://archive.fart.website/archivebot/viewer/job/2o9yg when it downloads 5GB+
23:20:39<klea>oh wait, you can't get the exact job date, until it gets any chunk of it uploaded to IA right?
23:22:03<pokechu22>Might be able to do it via ab2f, but the dashboard doesn't give it at least
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23:24:25<Umbire>Didn't wanna be the Danny Downer, but I don't think that site's got much left to BE salvaged, especially not post-wix
23:28:28<klea>"started_at": "1788822766.9568012",
23:28:30<klea>perhaps.
23:28:39<klea>We'll know once one of the chunks gets on IA.
23:30:58<@JAA>#devianttart is the channel for DeviantArt.
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23:48:16<Umbire>Gonna have to forward that to whoever expressed interest originally
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