| 00:04:08 | <@JAA> | Last year? Near passed away several years ago. |
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| 04:42:59 | <h2ibot> | Brad edited Governments on YouTube (+90, Added LP - Dutch Libertarian Party): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=63791&oldid=63575 |
| 04:51:00 | <h2ibot> | Brad edited Governments on YouTube (+453, Added channels for The Netherlands): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=63792&oldid=63791 |
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| 07:31:29 | <Dango360> | what happened to death bot (HadeanEon)? https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Deaths_by_year |
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| 09:46:58 | <JohtoTimes> | Hello! I guess to repeat what I said in #archiveteam, Just a quick message to say that I just discovered you, and that I really appreciate any and all efforts to support and preserve the old internet, especially Angelfire. I was disappointed when it went down, and there's lots of fansites from the late 90s and early 2000s I was hoping to explore still as part of my research. |
| 09:58:39 | <h2ibot> | Manu edited Anubis/uncategorized (+25, https://radar.squat.net/ deploys Anubis): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=63793&oldid=63686 |
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| 11:27:46 | <h2ibot> | Manu edited Discourse/archived (+98, Queued https://forums.ouvaton.coop/): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=63794&oldid=63764 |
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| 11:55:03 | <skankhunt42> | so I just posted a full postmortem of the netcup vienna downtime since I still have no access and support did not reply since monday. machine is powered on but they forget to reattach network in the hypervisor it seems. if some of you are netcup customers and have access to their forums: |
| 11:55:03 | <skankhunt42> | https://forum.netcup.de/thread/22813-austria-offline/?pageNo=3#post272083 |
| 11:55:40 | <skankhunt42> | if they dont disclose the issue that caused an 1.5hrs downtime, I had to do it. maybe they will just delete the post and eventually answer my tickets? |
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| 12:23:29 | <klea> | JAA: Last year based on publication date :) |
| 12:24:05 | <klea> | skankhunt42: "Access denied. You’re not authorized to view this page." :) |
| 12:24:34 | <skankhunt42> | sorry, will post it here too, whatever. at least I waited until they confirmed resolution, so I think it is responsible |
| 12:24:52 | <skankhunt42> | do we have a pastebin thingie like transfer.archivete.am? |
| 12:28:57 | <masterx244|m> | transfer. can be used as a pastebin, too for txt files. when you use the /inline/ID form it displays in the browser for supported formats |
| 12:30:40 | <skankhunt42> | quite a long read and translated from german to english so if you are interested: https://transfer.archivete.am/inline/13oaF1/netcup-vienna-postmortem.txt |
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| 12:52:03 | <anarcat> | hey |
| 12:52:16 | <anarcat> | so autistici.org was seized, obviously too late to save that |
| 12:52:32 | <anarcat> | i am told that noblogs is also having trouble right now, and it might be best to hold off on crawling, can we pause the job? |
| 12:52:53 | <anarcat> | i can also provide the full list of 20k+ blogs for crawling if people want it |
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| 12:57:35 | <anarcat> | also, while autistici.org has been seized, inventati.org should still work |
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| 13:17:25 | <skankhunt42> | anarcat: I think we already got most of noblogs. c3manu knows better |
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| 13:47:50 | <klea> | skankhunt42: Thanks. |
| 13:49:49 | <klea> | arkiver: Can you update the ArchiveBot viewer cost analytics function to account for the price hikes? (re the prices you mentioned in #sinavapour) |
| 13:51:08 | <@imer> | I'd say long term cost is likely going to hold? Just a "short term" blip until the market recovers hopefully |
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| 13:52:41 | <skankhunt42> | hm, I hope so too but I wouldn't be too sure about that. storage seems to only go up, RAM too. |
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| 13:55:23 | <klea> | hmm |
| 13:55:41 | <skankhunt42> | btw: does musicbrainz have a status page? seems their API is close to inaccessible the whole day already. |
| 13:57:52 | <klea> | skankhunt42: https://community.metabrainz.org/t/public-server-status-page-available/10109 mentions http://stats.musicbrainz.org/ |
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| 14:03:39 | <skankhunt42> | klea: does it load for you? |
| 14:03:49 | <klea> | Nope. |
| 14:04:02 | <skankhunt42> | I think that means "basically down" :D |
| 14:21:52 | <katia> | anarcat, pls do give the full list of blogs |
| 14:22:05 | <katia> | we can dedupe vs. what we got already |
| 14:32:33 | <anarcat> | i do not have it, and a/i is not sharing because the site is down anyways |
| 14:35:11 | <anarcat> | still, in any case the current crawl should either be paused or stopped, because all of noblogs are pushing out 502 messages, it seems like a waste of resources on both sides |
| 14:36:41 | <anarcat> | i guess it can't be paused, i would suggest just !abort |
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| 14:52:27 | <c3manu> | skankhunt42: no i don't. y'all have been aggregating the lists, i have no idea |
| 14:52:48 | <skankhunt42> | ah sorry |
| 14:53:43 | <skankhunt42> | but the lists you got were done with AB, right? surely, it cant hurt to get another list, but I assumed the ones we discovered 2 days ago are done :) |
| 14:53:56 | <c3manu> | i don't got any lists |
| 14:54:33 | <c3manu> | i just "paused" https://transfer.archivete.am/12RbHH/noblogs.org_new_subdomains_aug_2026_redo.txt / 28x00erel14tmtoupi2hb9i9b in #archivebot (which pokechu22 queued) |
| 14:54:33 | <eggdrop> | inline (for browser viewing): https://transfer.archivete.am/inline/12RbHH/noblogs.org_new_subdomains_aug_2026_redo.txt |
| 14:54:41 | <skankhunt42> | omg, I'm sooo sorry. my brain hurts. yes, pokechu22 got them. |
| 14:55:05 | <c3manu> | "paused" meaning "1 request every 5 minutes" in this context |
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| 14:57:14 | <c3manu> | i can't see any other running jobs having 'noblogs' in the URL (which is where pokechu22 would put them if they queued more). |
| 14:58:09 | <c3manu> | i'm just now catchign up..it's been seized already? damn that sucks :( |
| 14:58:30 | <c3manu> | i was looking forward to save what hasn't been at https://archive.autistici.org/ai/ |
| 15:02:08 | <c3manu> | the other jobs pokechu22 queued for eigenlab.org, lahaine.org, boum.org subdomains are still good and the pages themselves are available |
| 15:09:36 | <cruller> | The 30-second inter-request delay is a good choice, but it would be even better if you could truly pause or resume aborted jobs (or incrementally crawl). |
| 15:11:27 | <cruller> | *300-second |
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| 15:37:22 | <h2ibot> | Cooljeanius edited Deathwatch (+2, /* 2027 */ copyedit): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=63796&oldid=63785 |
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| 15:39:32 | <c3manu> | the archive still exists at https://archive.inventati.org/. the index is linking to the old one, but URLs like https://archive.inventati.org/ai/*/https://6may.org/ still exist |
| 15:40:22 | <h2ibot> | Cooljeanius edited Deathwatch (+51, /* 2026-09 */ copyedit): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=63797&oldid=63796 |
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| 15:45:22 | <h2ibot> | Cooljeanius edited Deathwatch (-95, /* 2026-09 */ Oh wait actually [[Naver TV]] is…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=63798&oldid=63797 |
| 15:46:23 | <h2ibot> | Cooljeanius edited Deathwatch (+10, /* 2026-09 */ space after colon): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=63799&oldid=63798 |
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| 15:52:29 | <c3manu> | pokechu22++ |
| 15:52:30 | <eggdrop> | [karma] 'pokechu22' now has 420 karma! |
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| 15:53:54 | <c3manu> | pokechu22: thanks for pasting that CDX url for the archived pages yesterday. i felt a bit like a caveman smashing rocks together, but i was able to create fake sitemaps to save the snapshots at https://archive.inventati.org/ |
| 15:54:40 | <c3manu> | pokechu22: i don't know how to get the warcs themselves from just the filenames though |
| 15:55:47 | <justauser> | Why should it be possible at all? |
| 15:56:05 | <c3manu> | pokechu22: oh, and i just got the ones listed on the index. not sure if it actually hosts more than that |
| 15:56:25 | <c3manu> | <justauser> Maybe they will produce raw WARCs if poked. |
| 15:56:39 | <justauser> | *if poked* was the key part. |
| 15:57:11 | <justauser> | I don't think the usual WARC viewers expose raw WARCs - the WBM itself certainly doesn't. |
| 15:57:26 | <c3manu> | hm, it does list the filename though: https://archive.inventati.org/ai/cdx?url=https%3A%2F%2F6may.org%2F&output=json |
| 15:58:05 | <c3manu> | but you can translate that to "i've got no idea how i should poke it" then |
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| 16:08:07 | <c3manu> | i'm such an idiot https://warcs.inventati.org/ |
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| 16:10:42 | <skankhunt42> | update from netcup: they made my post invisible, as they want to "further validate that this wont happen again" but I immediately got an answer to my support ticket and looks like my server is back with network. wow |
| 16:12:19 | <c3manu> | skankhunt42: so they're saying you're giving people bad ideas? |
| 16:13:56 | <skankhunt42> | I think its more like it's only fixed for me :D |
| 16:14:14 | <skankhunt42> | We fundamentally do not want to "censor" anything in this context or sweep it under the rug. However, as we are currently still working on the final validation of whether the underlying problem previously published here has been completely resolved, I ask for your understanding that we have temporarily hidden the posts for this reason. I also ask |
| 16:14:14 | <skankhunt42> | that technical details not be discussed further here for the time being. |
| 16:14:49 | <skankhunt42> | The reason it was communicated to OP that the issue had already been resolved is that it can no longer occur in their network segment. However, we want to thoroughly verify this at additional locations before communicating further here. |
| 16:15:23 | <c3manu> | wow |
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| 16:39:05 | <skankhunt42> | c3manu: it seems routed now LOL. so I am pretty sure its really only fixed for me |
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| 17:13:06 | <pokechu22> | anarcat: The most useful list would be blogs that have had new posts since, say, October 2025 - that way we could rerun only those ones and not the ones that haven't changed since 2010 |
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| 17:43:08 | <skankhunt42> | c3manu; users are reporting downtimes in the thread again :D:D:D:DD |
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| 17:46:28 | <c3manu> | skankhunt42: yeah, probably like 16 minutes ago. that's when pipeline daguerreo last checked in - cc JAA |
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| 17:47:49 | <skankhunt42> | sorry lol. I reduced workload. does it work again? |
| 17:47:59 | <skankhunt42> | but lets be honest: its basically a not-my-problem |
| 17:50:11 | <skankhunt42> | just so I understand how wget-at works when setting concurrency to 20: does it reuse connections between those or is each process independent? |
| 17:51:28 | <skankhunt42> | funny enough, they really fixed it "for me", because I have no issues at all, SSH performs well, all containers run just fine and network interface is at about 50-60mb/s throughput |
| 17:53:32 | <c3manu> | the server control panel is giving me 500s when trying to look at the network statistics, so i'd say "no" |
| 17:53:42 | <skankhunt42> | I wonder how long it takes to get abuse report again... I am trying to reduce the load but wanted to do SIGINT |
| 17:53:43 | <skankhunt42> | https://www.netcup-status.de/2026/08/netzwerkstoerung-an-unserem-standort-wien-3/ |
| 17:53:50 | <c3manu> | http://archivebot.com/pipelines didn't report another checkin |
| 17:54:03 | <c3manu> | seen that |
| 17:54:10 | <skankhunt42> | insane. for real now, this is getting ridiculous |
| 17:54:45 | <skankhunt42> | and no one in forum blames me because my posts were ~censored~ hidden for now |
| 17:55:00 | <c3manu> | i can change that if you like ;) |
| 17:55:42 | <skankhunt42> | ah I'm fine. I am still in the position to say "I ordered a /64, I am using a /64". if someone wants to put the blame on me, they are just wrong :) |
| 17:56:44 | <skankhunt42> | but I really want to understand whats happening on their stack. do I just flood their switching table with my IPs so no one else can get connections anymore? |
| 17:58:21 | <c3manu> | hm, i'd kinda like my job for https://warcs.inventati.org/ to finish before it gets taken down like https://www.autistici.org/ |
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| 17:58:43 | <skankhunt42> | yeah I get that. what runtime do you expect? |
| 17:58:57 | <skankhunt42> | I can sigkill if you want. just let me know when you are done so I can scale up afterwards |
| 17:59:11 | <skankhunt42> | nvm, its gone :D |
| 18:00:35 | <skankhunt42> | did network came back for you c3manu? |
| 18:01:07 | <skankhunt42> | my server is "deactivated" again so I'd think the abuse mail will hit in a few minutes |
| 18:02:10 | <c3manu> | it didn't |
| 18:02:29 | <skankhunt42> | huh, but its not my fault anymore :( |
| 18:02:47 | <skankhunt42> | well maybe it is, but then something is really really broken |
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| 18:07:49 | <skankhunt42> | still no abuse mail but my pizza arrived. hope you can get the job done really soon, c3manu. really sorry, I just don't understand what they are doing there. |
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| 18:15:59 | <skankhunt42> | c3manu: can you ping me if anything happens? I'm gonna eat my pizza now but I am pretty shook right now |
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| 18:30:17 | <pokechu22> | skankhunt42: http://archivebot.com/pipelines seems to show movement again |
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| 18:31:07 | <pokechu22> | Hmm. https://warcs.inventati.org/ is giving 404s on every other request (which seems to happen to me too) |
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| 18:35:29 | <skankhunt42> | netcup just tried to call me??? i didn’t pick up, why not just send an email? i want a trace of that |
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| 18:53:32 | <masterx244|m> | calling can also collide with other stuf. you might be on the commute or at a work meeting |
| 18:58:28 | <skankhunt42> | I agree but am getting worried that they want to blame me now. still no email. |
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| 19:05:13 | <c3manu> | skankhunt42, pokechu22: sorry, i missed it. i was looking at the network statistic in the control panel but you gotta refresh the whole page for it to update it seems |
| 19:06:27 | <pokechu22> | Ah, yeah, I don't think http://archivebot.com/pipelines live-updates |
| 19:09:30 | <c3manu> | oh. that small circle button is for resetting the zoom, not for updating the stats -.- |
| 19:09:51 | <c3manu> | UI is hard |
| 19:10:00 | <c3manu> | guess that why it's pointint counterclockwise |
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