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| 00:08:53 | <teasea> | Hi, has anyone set about archiving the "Wolfoo" Youtube channel/s? They just lost a copyright infringement lawsuit to the Peppa Pig people, the court ruled all infringing material must be taken down by Monday |
| 00:12:49 | <pokechu22> | teasea: #down-the-tube is our channel for YouTube so that's probably the best place to ask |
| 00:15:28 | <teasea> | pokechu22 Ok, thanks |
| 00:16:39 | <@JAA> | pokechu22: It's a bit over a million requests, no? |
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| 00:17:12 | <@JAA> | IDs go to 36.6M or so. |
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| 00:17:52 | <@JAA> | The rate limiting seems to be about the same. |
| 00:18:18 | <pokechu22> | JAA: yeah, oops. I think 174528 was the number of seconds (requests divided by 6)? |
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| 00:18:28 | <@JAA> | Yeah, sounds about right. |
| 00:18:56 | <@JAA> | Roughly 2 days, so it depends on when they shut down exactly. |
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| 00:51:02 | <pokechu22> | arkiver: some kind of challenge on https://www.meltonmuseum.org/ that I don't recognize; applies before the redirect from https://meltonmuseum.org/ to https://www.meltonmuseum.org/ |
| 01:09:33 | <@JAA> | pokechu22: I've spread the search thing out across a few machines, so it should comfortably finish in time. |
| 01:09:41 | <pokechu22> | Nice, thanks |
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| 04:06:32 | <didyousayboop> | Thanks so much for the work on DataLounge.com! I really appreciate it! |
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| 06:14:06 | <ericgallager> | ok so is it just me or am I getting disconnected more often from here lately |
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| 06:24:13 | <h2ibot> | Bear edited List of websites excluded from the Wayback Machine (+51, scioncapital.com by Michael Burry - more like…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=63348&oldid=63217 |
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| 07:40:27 | <cruller> | Ambition co., Ltd. will go out of business tomorrow. https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%A2%E3%83%B3%E3%83%93%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A7%E3%83%B3 |
| 07:41:35 | <mannie> | cruller: i can do it for you |
| 07:43:10 | <mannie> | cruller: It is already grabbed last month |
| 07:49:55 | <cruller> | mannie: That sounds good. However, there might still be some sites that haven't been saved, so I'll check. |
| 07:50:08 | <cruller> | !remindme 1h ambition |
| 07:50:08 | <eggdrop> | [remind] ok, i'll remind you at 2026-07-30T08:50:07Z |
| 07:50:45 | <mannie> | cruller than I will comeback in a hour |
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| 08:09:32 | <h2ibot> | Nintendofan885 created National Institutes of Health (+240, create): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?oldid=63349 |
| 08:13:52 | <@arkiver> | pokechu22: thank you :) |
| 08:16:33 | <h2ibot> | Nintendofan885 edited National Institutes of Health (+56, IA/IRC): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=63350&oldid=63349 |
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| 08:20:34 | <h2ibot> | Nintendofan885 edited National Institutes of Health (+625, Digital collections): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=63351&oldid=63350 |
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| 08:29:36 | <h2ibot> | Nintendofan885 edited National Institutes of Health (+988, other two): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=63352&oldid=63351 |
| 08:29:36 | <h2ibot> | Nintendofan885 edited National Institutes of Health (-3, oops): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=63353&oldid=63352 |
| 08:31:36 | <h2ibot> | Nintendofan885 edited National Institutes of Health (+62, Add logo and gov category): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=63354&oldid=63353 |
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| 08:50:08 | <eggdrop> | [remind] cruller: ambition |
| 08:51:52 | <cruller> | mannie: The sites found so far are as follows: https://www.ambition.ne.jp/ https://www.ambition.vn/ https://rod.ambition.ne.jp/ https://www.bungo-mayoi.jp/ https://mazoku.jp/ http://w.n-w.jp/ https://arcatopia.ambition.ne.jp/ https://www.bungo-tales.com/ https://dreamgirlf.com/ http://www.infinity2.ne.jp/ |
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| 08:56:48 | <mannie> | cruller: Did you find more sites? |
| 09:01:41 | <cruller> | mannie: The sites found so far are as follows: https://www.ambition.ne.jp/ https://www.ambition.vn/ https://rod.ambition.ne.jp/ https://www.bungo-mayoi.jp/ https://mazoku.jp/ http://w.n-w.jp/ https://arcatopia.ambition.ne.jp/ https://www.bungo-tales.com/ https://dreamgirlf.com/ http://www.infinity2.ne.jp/ |
| 09:04:31 | <mannie> | cruller: thanks I will grab them with AB |
| 09:05:36 | <cruller> | The following games have been transferred to another company, but it might be worth preserving them: https://nizikano-2d.jp/ https://fairydoll.jp/ https://gijin.jp/ https://ai-mi.jp/ |
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| 12:36:13 | <h2ibot> | Hexagonwin edited Deathwatch (+284, Added Naver TV shutdown (Sep 30)): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=63355&oldid=63254 |
| 12:37:18 | <hexagonwin> | just a few months after kakaotv, another korean video site is shutting down. this company also runs a weblog service and it's unsure now whether videos there are also affected. there doesn't seem to be a lot of meaningful videos though. will update as i get more information |
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| 12:50:15 | <Titrik> | Hello everyone! I should write here about problems with rsync? I'm just new to this whole thing... |
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| 12:56:10 | <Titrik> | Sorry, I was disconnected, if suddenly someone wrote a reply, I don’t see it( |
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| 12:57:49 | <@arkiver> | hexagonwin: naver TV? |
| 12:57:55 | <hexagonwin> | arkiver yeah |
| 12:58:17 | <hexagonwin> | the site structure seems similar to kakaotv.. numeric video ids so we can just scan the whole range |
| 12:58:20 | <hexagonwin> | (if we're gonna archive it) |
| 12:58:49 | <@arkiver> | we'll run something for it, but the big problem is the HDD cost nowadays, so we may not be able to simply get all video. if you like with kakaotv again see ways to reduce the amount of data and/or prioritize, that would be very helpful |
| 12:59:07 | <@arkiver> | i'll make sure we start this one well in advance of the deadline so we don't have to rush |
| 12:59:21 | <hexagonwin> | tbh even in kakaotv it was hard to find many meaningful(?) user generated content, in here it's even harder |
| 12:59:40 | <hexagonwin> | honestly i'm thinking we might be fine with just archiving few select channels with yt-dlp and uploading to IA as normal item |
| 12:59:59 | <hexagonwin> | since this website was never popular.. |
| 13:06:00 | <@arkiver> | hexagonwin: i see, in that case we could also go with at least getting everything except the actual video, and perhaps a small sized video in some cae |
| 13:06:30 | <@arkiver> | do you have example of non-naver web pages that used, embedded, or linked to naver tv? |
| 13:07:41 | <hexagonwin> | arkiver: here https://dodamtv.tistory.com/m/234 |
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| 13:08:12 | <hexagonwin> | kinda like youtube, its all just users linking/iframing to tv.naver.com |
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| 13:09:48 | <hexagonwin> | i've seen some naver tv videos on namu.wiki previously, but i have a text backup of that website from early this year so i'll just search through the backup and discover all urls. uncompressing the backup rn.. |
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| 13:22:57 | <cruller> | Someone will probably create [[Naver TV]], but it might be handy to have [[Naver]] as well, separate from that. That's because that company/brand name is associated with many websites. |
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| 13:28:01 | <hexagonwin> | cruller: i will create them soon this week, i'm kinda busy with something else rn though.. |
| 13:28:12 | <@JAA> | The DataLounge search shards all finished a couple hours ago. I've started archiving the threads pages of IDs 36M and up. |
| 13:28:14 | <hexagonwin> | theres many stuff i gotta write including naver blog and naver cafe stuff |
| 13:29:31 | <@JAA> | I'm only doing the thread ID pages, based on the search results. |
| 13:30:09 | <cruller> | It might be good to have a list of such companies, or what can be called "local big tech". |
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| 13:30:54 | <cruller> | I also know a few companies like that. |
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| 13:42:17 | <@JAA> | Regular thread pages on DataLounge start at roughly 36157000. Only very few random IDs below that have thread pages (presumably threads that were kept alive by replies). |
| 13:43:22 | <@JAA> | The date under the initial post always seems to be the date of the last reply, by the way. |
| 13:43:45 | <@JAA> | I could see that being an awful hack for ordering and preventing thread expiry. |
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| 15:34:34 | <@JAA> | I've set up something to try to continuously grab new posts on DataLounge until the shutdown. But it looks like the search lags a bit or caches the results. |
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| 15:38:26 | <@JAA> | https://datalounge.com/threads unfortunately only has the thread IDs, not post IDs. |
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| 15:43:11 | <@JAA> | Looks like the search might be updating every 5 minutes. |
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| 15:47:49 | <Meowth> | datalounge.com shuts down permanently on 2026-07-31. It's on the Deathwatch wiki but has no project and I don't see anyone on it. 31 years, ~36.5M posts, one of the oldest LGBTQ forums on the web. Could someone run an ArchiveBot job before it's gone? Thread URLs look like datalounge.com/thread/<id>-<slug>. |
| 15:53:33 | <@imer> | Meowth: JAA is on it "15:34 <@JAA> I've set up something to try to continuously grab new posts on DataLounge until the shutdown. But it looks like the search lags a bit or caches the results." (~20min ago) - thanks though! |
| 15:57:11 | <@JAA> | That's just about the new things being posted until the shutdown, but the rest should largely also be covered now. |
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| 16:06:24 | <@JAA> | I'm also archiving the older thread IDs from the search results now, although almost all of those will be 403 or 404. |
| 16:06:52 | <@JAA> | (But the contents are already in the search results.) |
| 16:12:55 | <Meowth> | JAA Thank you so much. I can't tell you how important the archive is to so many people. Where will it land? Will there be a downloadable copy? |
| 16:14:41 | <@arkiver> | JAA: i think i collected a list of IDs somewhere too, want them? |
| 16:14:47 | <@arkiver> | somewhat forgot about this |
| 16:15:02 | <@arkiver> | or is the archive complete? |
| 16:15:08 | <@JAA> | Meowth: It'll all be in the Wayback Machine eventually, but I can't say yet when as there's a bit of a queue in my uploading. Also, the search part won't play back nicely, and finding the contents of old threads (that no longer have web pages) will be difficult. |
| 16:15:10 | <@arkiver> | (without the new stuff) |
| 16:16:06 | <@JAA> | arkiver: Unless the search malfunctioned without it being obvious, it should be complete, I think. But I'll happily check whether your IDs are in my list. |
| 16:16:08 | <@arkiver> | JAA: ~263k threads sound correct? |
| 16:16:11 | <@JAA> | Thread IDs, right? |
| 16:16:21 | <@arkiver> | yes |
| 16:16:23 | <@JAA> | I have 272147 thread IDs. |
| 16:16:28 | <@arkiver> | ah perfect then |
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| 21:12:43 | <@JAA> | DataLounge already shut down a day early. |
| 21:13:25 | <@JAA> | At approximately 20:54 |
| 21:13:56 | <klea> | smh |
| 21:14:05 | <@JAA> | Things were getting a bit rough already before that, but I think I have all posts up to about 19:57. |
| 21:27:39 | <didyousayboop> | Very frustrating that the admin decided to shut down the site a day early. Sigh |
| 21:28:14 | <didyousayboop> | Are you saying you still managed to scrape all the posts up until today anyway? |
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| 21:53:51 | <h2ibot> | KleaBot edited Main Page/Current Warrior Project (+0, Default projects are now telegram (weight 3),…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=63361&oldid=63308 |
| 22:05:31 | <@JAA> | didyousayboop: I should have all content from 2020-ish (earliest search results) to about an hour before the shutdown. For all recently active threads, I also archived proper thread pages, but the rest is only in the search result data and not reasonably accessible. |
| 22:08:40 | <@JAA> | (Which is how it worked on the site itself as well, for that matter.) |
| 22:23:24 | <h2ibot> | KleaBot edited Main Page/Current Warrior Project (+0, Default projects are now telegram (weight 5),…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=63362&oldid=63361 |
| 22:34:47 | <@JAA> | Actually, slight correction, I don't quite have all recently active thread pages, but I do have all recently created thread pages and approximately 37% of the few very old threads that were still alive. |
| 22:37:57 | <klea> | qwarc job? |
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| 22:45:00 | <@JAA> | klea: Yes, see earlier messages in here for details. |
| 22:45:18 | <klea> | Ack. |
| 22:45:56 | | klea would like to have access to some sample qwarc jobs' source code, to understand how it's used better, but supposes it'll end up in archiveteam-inbox and thus be ARId. |
| 22:46:58 | <@JAA> | archiveteam_inbox*, but there are a bunch in archiveteam-fire I believe. |
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| 22:47:38 | <klea> | Cursed names, when - and when _? |
| 22:48:42 | <klea> | Yeah, the #UncleSamsArchive qwarcs got their own collection, which is ARId, that's one I was interested, as I've been told it's quite more complex than the others. |
| 22:49:09 | <@JAA> | It's normally underscores. I believe archiveteam-fire is the only exception, but maybe there are a few others. |
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| 23:04:45 | <didyousayboop> | Thank you for the explanation, JAA! And for the work archiving DataLounge! |
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