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00:52:22<h2ibot>Wickedplayer494 edited TheTVDB (+3, There should have been an "of" there): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=62974&oldid=62964
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04:44:52<pokechu22>https://transfer.archivete.am/ is being flagged as containing malware again
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08:13:32<cruller|irc>This time, https://irclogs.archivete.am/ is also flagged.
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08:35:10<Allemn|m>Weebly needs to be added to the Deathwatch
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08:39:00<Allemn|m>Several Weebly-hosted websites will be shut down permanently on September 27 depending on the country the site's owner is set on, 90 days after announcing that they will be winding down operations on 67 countries. On December 26, the affected Weebly accounts will be permanently deleted.
08:39:00<Allemn|m>https://www.weebly.com/app/help/us/en/topics/changes-to-weebly-global-operations
08:43:41<h2ibot>Cruller edited Deathwatch (+197, /* 2026-09 */ Add Weebly. Thx…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=62975&oldid=62972
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08:50:17<mindrecent>Good evening/morning. I see data.world on deathwatch; is there a channel or brainstorming area for working on that?
08:55:01<@imer>pokechu22: cruller|irc: yep, waiting for google to tell us what is wrong.. again :|
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09:06:37<cruller|irc>mindrecent: AFAIK no. If you have any information, please post it here for now. It might spark a discussion.
09:09:36<cruller|irc>Given the nature of the service, I suspect there is a user-led archiving project?
09:10:05<mindrecent>data.world, I see 3.35m? datasets. also someone discussed pulling some here https://www.tumblr.com/phoenixcatch7/821097380811358208?source=share
09:14:49<mindrecent>data.world, you have to be authenticated to get datapackages or pull from the download.data.world domain.
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09:28:28<cruller|irc>Hmm, AT isn't very proactive about archiving using accounts. I tried to forward it to the STWP channel, but my Matrix server is down right now so I can't :(
09:28:34<cruller|irc>Nevertheless, I recommend keeping an eye on https://irclogs.archivete.am/archiveteam-bs/today, as something might happen.
09:32:31<c3manu>hm, given all the wordpress blogs i'm going through atm, i wonder whether it would be a good idea to keep kind of an overview/index for blogs from specific niches or categories, so they will be easier to find afterwards.
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09:32:51<c3manu>there seem to be many blogs dedicated to book or movie reviews for example
09:33:14<c3manu>wondering what would be a good place in the wiki to put them
09:38:50<h2ibot>Manu edited ArchiveBot/Palestine (+36, /* Mainly covering Palestine */): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=62976&oldid=62710
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09:39:50<h2ibot>Manu edited ArchiveBot/Palestine (+201): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=62977&oldid=62976
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09:41:38<cruller|irc>c3manu: How about creating new articles for that purpose and linking to them from [[List of movie databases]] and [[List of book databases]]? However, I think there are better crowdsourced databases for web indexing.
09:43:07<c3manu>cruller|irc: are there any such crowdsourced databases i should be aware of?
09:44:10<c3manu>or do you know of any? i haven't been looking into that yet, just thinking out loud
09:46:22<cruller|irc>While not exactly an index, in Japan, a bookmarking service with social tagging functionality called https://b.hatena.ne.jp/ is popular.
09:48:35<c3manu>hm, i'm gonna have a look around then. maybe there's a musicbrainz-like project around for that, or maybe there's some crowd-curated search engine index that's suitable
09:51:26<cruller|irc>Among classic web directories, https://curlie.org/ is well-known, but it is currently down?
09:53:12<cruller|irc>https://github.com/mwmbl/mwmbl "We have our own index powered by our community - while the index itself is centralised, the crawling is distributed across servers run by our volunteers." This is also an interesting project.
09:53:47<c3manu>i just had a look at the sources used by https://bubbles.town/faq#sources, there are a few interesting ones as well
09:54:42<c3manu>but if those are not a byproduct of some community, they're mostly meant for discovery and don't want any old inactive websites in them, like here for example: https://ooh.directory/about/
09:55:37<c3manu>what i was thinking of was more like a time capsule for old and archived content, or maybe even a list useful for some research including personal blogs
09:55:59<c3manu>on the other hand, none of the lists we could curate here would be anything near complete, so..^^
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10:04:53<cruller|irc>Every database community, including AT, selects and filters data to suit their own purposes, but I'm interested in consolidating that data to create an exhaustive list.
10:06:44<cruller|irc>Then each community can find data they didn't know before there and reconstruct their own database.
10:14:13<cruller|irc>I feel the same way about Deathwatch.
10:19:15<cruller|irc>Incidentally, let me share another thought, which I was just writing: The issue of sharing AT activities and knowledge has been discussed several times in the past, but I think this perspective is particularly important in the context of https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Better_Tracking_for_Deathwatch. The database of website vital signs should be (perhaps even
10:19:19<cruller|irc>more so than it is now) easy for anyone to read and write to. However, you may not necessarily want to make the progress of your work public.
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10:48:00<h2ibot>Wickedplayer494 edited Deathwatch (+95, /* 2026-07 */ Add TV Time): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=62978&oldid=62975
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12:03:04<klea>hmm, yeah, having private progress tracking would be useful, something a issue tracker on a Git forge would be unable to do unless it is more than one issue tracker, which would make things more difficult, putting stuff on the wiki immediately makes it public (2, 3), dedicated issue tracking software would work kind of if you bodge it by making more than one issue, having one
12:03:04<klea>be limited, and the other not, and custom software would be able to suit this niche, but all of those are still centralized.
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12:18:00<klea>I was thinking about bodging something like taskwarrior into working on IRC, but that might be too strange for everyone, and would also still centralize stuff.
12:20:23<klea>OrIdow6: May you look in your logs for whatever was sent between https://irclogs.archivete.am/archiveteam-bs/2024-11-06#le7142d8a and https://irclogs.archivete.am/archiveteam-bs/2024-11-06#l2ad410fb, it seems the logs didn't catch that.
12:20:52<klea>oh, wait, the bot didn't lose connection, so I guess you didn't say anything more.
12:21:47<klea>Also, what about something like a Wikidata plugin instead of Semantic MW?
12:23:41<klea>cruller|irc: https://irclogs.archivete.am/archiveteam-bs/2024-11-07#l0aa68bec Regular exports kind of collides with the idea of keeping data private.
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12:29:50<klea>https://irclogs.archivete.am/archiveteam-bs/2024-11-07#l66830fa7 sounds good.
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12:42:00<klea>2026-07-03 12:18:00 <klea> I was thinking about bodging something like taskwarrior into working on IRC, but that might be too strange for everyone, and would also still centralize stuff. <- But maybe bodging the thing to work with Gitea/Forgejo's api would be better yeah.
12:44:06<cruller|irc>Re exports, if we preserve history in some form, there is room for debate as to whether those who later gain access rights should be able to access it. The answer is probably no, but doing so might be difficult technically?
12:45:39<klea>Yeah, I think that's why moving discussions off of IRC is considered a downside.
12:47:18<cruller|irc>If an export includes areas with different privacy settings, it can be problematic too.
12:47:46<klea>https://irclogs.archivete.am/archiveteam-bs/2021-06-05#l8e2f7d8b IIRC someone here who I don't want to ping mentioned about a program to do exactly that, and the idea of AT project for it. https://github.com/thp/urlwatch
12:48:11<klea>2026-07-03 12:47:18 <cruller|irc> If an export includes areas with different privacy settings, it can be problematic too. <- Yeah, and the idea of making exports available to AT-core members only seems kind of funny.
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12:55:51<cruller|irc>Yet another consideration is that some information should be kept private at first, but can be made public after a while. It's like embargoes.
12:56:09<klea>EHard
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13:00:31<klea>I personally think even if there is some date after which some data can go public, the making the data public step should be let to be done to a human who would be able to possibly redact stuff before publishing.
13:01:22<klea>I personally think even if there is some date after which some data can go public, the making the data public step should be let to be done to a human who would be able to possibly redact stuff before publishing.
13:01:52<klea>Ooops, sent that twice apparently.
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13:09:20<cruller|irc>I agree. But I’d like to avoid placing the burden on just a few specific people.
13:11:38<cruller|irc>Well, anyway, this isn't a high-priority issue.
13:13:40<klea>True.
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13:40:38<@OrIdow6>klea: Yes I was joking about the netsplit
13:41:43<klea>Ah.
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14:08:55<Yna>Not sure what to be running currently
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14:16:02<cruller|irc>Since I’m not very familiar with issue tracking and rarely perform archiving work myself, I’ll delve a little deeper into the aspects of describing vital signs (and discovering endangered targets).
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14:29:29<klea>https://transfer.archivete.am/ being malicious according to Google means https://irclogs.archivete.am/ also is malicious apparently.
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14:33:32<Dango360>http://archivete.am/ is also malicious, so it's probably the whole domain
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15:56:49<mindrecent>data.world, 162719 datasets, which matches with the earlier tumblr post I linked. pulling that list of dataset metadata currently
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16:38:20<mindrecent>data.world, why? why limit to 10k items, why not support a cursor, just why?
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16:58:29<cruller|irc>It appears that some of the endpoints found at https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://data.world/api/* don't require an account.
17:22:57<pokechu22>https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata_talk:WikiProject_Video_games#International_Computer_Game_Collection_shutdown
17:25:02<justauser>https://db.games-archive.org/ - at least it's not JS, but ABing is going to be painful...
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18:12:31<mindrecent>cruller: ty. matches what I see which I appreciate.
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19:20:10<cruller|irc>https://globalping.io?measurement=2uJHRODG5kiFKYJag00020h7b "Access denied: Only European IPs are allowed. This is a measure against AI bots."
19:21:18<cruller|irc>#Y won't work effectively either...
19:27:18<mindrecent>data.world. attempting to pull list of filenames per project but some of those are auth scoped. will come back to this later tonight or tomorrow.
19:30:41<that_lurker>today I learn about globalping.io
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20:59:28<klea>arkiver: https://gov.alaska.gov/ awswaf.com captcha.
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