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03:53:05<egallager>anyone check on the status of Colbert Late Show materials on CBS websites recently? https://bsky.app/profile/blueskyfanatic.bsky.social/post/3mmhqfyv2rk2x
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06:47:17<triplecamera|m>From #stwp-chat:hackint.org : Sina Cloud will go offline on September 16, 2026 at 24:00.
06:48:22<triplecamera|m>STWP has been archiving some early Biliblili videos, which are stored in Sina Cloud's server.
06:49:27<triplecamera|m>Anyone who is interested can join the Telegram channel saveweb_projects (no IRC bridge, no auto-translation).
07:14:19<@arkiver>triplecamera|m: do you have more information about Sina Cloud?
07:14:58<@arkiver>you say there is a connection between Bilibili and Sina Cloud, as in BiliBili is owned by Sina Cloud and with Sina Cloud going away, Bilibili goes away?
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07:22:29<@arkiver>TheTechRobo: they have sitemaps that show the public data, nice
07:32:58<Pendonym>why do yall use these irc channel things instead of something like discord because you cant see prev messages on this
07:41:12<triplecamera|m>arkiver: No, Bilibili is not owned by Sina Cloud.
07:43:17<triplecamera|m>In the early days, Bilibili couldn't afford hosting all the videos, so many videos were hotlinked from other video sharing platforms, and Sina was one of them.
07:45:07<triplecamera|m>This is no longer the case since 2015.
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07:56:52<triplecamera|m>https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Archiveteam:Community_Portal
07:57:16<@arkiver>triplecamera|m: alright, so only Sina Cloud is affected? is there significant public data on Sina Cloud that should be archived?
07:58:16<triplecamera|m>arkiver: I don't know. You can ask yzqzss.
07:59:01<triplecamera|m>To my surprise, ArchiveTeam Wiki once had a Community Portal page, but was abandoned because ...
07:59:09<triplecamera|m>> ArchiveTeam uses IRC for communication and coordination. Please consider bringing up your questions and concerns there instead.
08:00:27<@arkiver>yep IRC is the main place
08:00:32<triplecamera|m>In my humble opinion, discussions on wiki are very different from discussions on instant messages (like IRC).
08:01:54<triplecamera|m>It is easier to track long-term discussions or project on wiki. On the contrary, discussions on IM change topics rapidly.
08:03:07<triplecamera|m>Many wikis have pages dedicated for discussions. Small wikis have one or two, large wikis like Wikipedia have dozens.
08:04:11<triplecamera|m>So, I propose re-enabling the Community Portal for long-term discussions and projects, e.g. upgrading MediaWiki version.
08:06:09<@arkiver>i'm really not sure
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08:06:43<@arkiver>a nice thing about IRC is also that simply everyone can join, which is not the case currently with the wiki due to spam (accounts need to go on a special list or have their changes approved)
08:07:21<@arkiver>if something needs more focused discussion on the longer term, we usually set up a channel for that
08:07:29<@arkiver>and that generally have been working well for many years
08:14:24<@arkiver>huh no datechnoman here
08:17:43<triplecamera|m>arkiver: Well maybe you can use both, discuss in IRC frequently and put summaries on the wiki.
08:19:03<triplecamera|m>I set up an experiment to track the MediaWiki upgrade task on my sandbox page, because I can recall that it's been mentioned several times here.
08:20:27<triplecamera|m>But it's difficult to find the IRC logs now. Hopefully this page makes people easier to track it.
08:20:37<triplecamera|m>https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/User:TripleCamera/sandbox
08:20:52<@arkiver>triplecamera|m: when it comes to archiving and information about a site, if there's information revealed/discussed on IRC, someone may summarize that information on the wiki page for the website talked about
08:21:30<@arkiver>in general though on communication, most important is if something can gain traction with others
08:21:39<@arkiver>i'm not sure if that will happen with the wiki, but you can try
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09:17:04<yzqzss>👀
09:20:34<@arkiver>i'm guessing it's mostly just the *.sinaapp.com sites and sinacdn.com stuff that is public but does not have lists anywhere
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09:42:38<yzqzss>we (stwp) will to handle those sina shits
09:42:53<yzqzss>if we can't, I will ping you guys
09:43:34<@arkiver>yzqzss: if you have a list of sinaapp.com sites, please do share them so we can archive them into the Wayback Machine with for example ArchiveBot
09:44:09<h2ibot>Bzc6p edited .hu domains seed (+39, /* Progress and statistics */ Update: 2024…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=61945&oldid=61176
09:45:12<yzqzss>arkiver: ok
09:45:33<@arkiver>yzqzss: thank you and good luck :)
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21:31:15<klea>katia: Due to technical limitations, in a channel you recently left, there needs to be a command sent per actual job, so kh2i does that when there's a desire to run more than one job, and due to the other 1 job == 1 URL limit, it's spammy.
21:31:35<katia>ya the technology just isn't there yet
21:32:36<klea>The channel AB runs on is also sometimes affected by the same issue, look at it when there's elections for example :)
21:32:53<klea>Also, that was it doing 400 jobs.
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21:36:28<klea>You can still join that channel's -chat if you want to see people talking.
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22:20:13<agris_>pokechu22, can you please archive https://www.ms4x.net it shows how to tune the obsolete Siemens MS4XX series ECUs.
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22:20:40<agris_>The motors it controls are not disposable, and if taken care off will outlive me.
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22:24:52<pokechu22>I started archivebot and wikibot jobs (the latter will appear at https://archive.org/search?query=originalurl%3A%28%2Ams4x.net%2A%29 when it finishes)
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23:45:29<klea>Barto: https://news.slashdot.org/story/26/05/24/2042245/canonical-is-shutting-down-ubuntu-pastebin was reported in #archiveteam too.
23:45:36<Barto>:-)
23:45:45<Barto>i just saw it
23:47:17<@JAA>Pastes on pastebin.ubuntu.com already expired very quickly, so there's not really anything to archive, I think?
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