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| 04:12:33 | <klea> | JAA: I don't know why there is active discussion in -ot. |
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| 06:54:59 | <BlueBlaziken> | Hello, could someone with permissions please send through an ArchiveBot job for https://cockroachjanataparty.org (recently-founded Indian political party)? It seems to be just one page, but it's using some kind of anti-bot protection that Save Page Now doesn't like |
| 06:56:17 | <BlueBlaziken> | I don't know if ArchiveBot would 100% be the best tool for just one page, but it still seems important enough to archive I thought I'd ask here |
| 06:56:53 | <@JAA> | ArchiveBot won't be able to get past that JS challenge either. |
| 06:58:03 | <@JAA> | (Also, that URL redirects to https://cockroachjantaparty.org/ with one less a in the middle.) |
| 07:00:23 | <BlueBlaziken> | The URL redirect is expected/correct, shame there's no easy way for now that it can be archived |
| 07:01:40 | <@JAA> | #jseater got something: https://mnbot.very-good-quality-co.de/screenshot/192d0471-d44c-4bc1-ba8a-1c594f1acbe4/full.jpg |
| 07:01:52 | <@JAA> | That won't go into the Wayback Machine yet but should eventually. |
| 07:02:29 | <BlueBlaziken> | Nevermind then, it was able to be archived |
| 07:02:38 | <BlueBlaziken> | Thanks JAA! |
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| 07:09:40 | <@JAA> | Also arkiver, another JS challenge at https://cockroachjantaparty.org/ though I don't see any identifying name beyond 'hcdn'. |
| 07:10:30 | <NicoVideoArchiver> | Hello, I have obtained a list of the urls of what I believe to be all 800,000 or so MikuMikuDance videos on NicoNicoDouga. I was going to archive it myself, but some tests and estimates showed it to unfeasible. I estimate the total size would be about 40 terabytes. Would ArchiveTeam be interested in this? |
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| 07:21:28 | <@arkiver> | yay :P JAA |
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| 07:41:36 | <BlueBlaziken> | JAA and arkiver - seems to be Hostinger's anti-bot solution? |
| 08:02:35 | <cruller> | Agreed. |
| 08:03:47 | <cruller> | Searching for "x-hcdn-request-id" brought up Hostinger-related pages. Next, searching for "Checking your browser before accessing" led to https://old.reddit.com/r/Hostinger/comments/1t95imc/how_do_i_remove_the_checking_your_browser_before/ |
| 08:10:03 | <cruller> | The same workarounds as Cloudflare might also work. |
| 08:12:07 | <h2ibot> | KleaBot edited Main Page/Current Warrior Project (+0, Default projects are now recroom (weight 10),…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=61907&oldid=61904 |
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| 09:24:17 | <h2ibot> | Manu edited Distributed recursive crawls (+121, Candidates: Add huge webuser requests): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=61908&oldid=61562 |
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| 13:10:50 | <h2ibot> | Cruller edited Deathwatch (+8, /* Pining for the Fjords (Dying) */ Fixed…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=61909&oldid=61670 |
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| 13:17:16 | <cruller> | RE:NIKKEI COMPASS; Roughly speaking, their content will just move from behind one paywall to behind another. |
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| 14:01:08 | <h2ibot> | Himond000 edited Deathwatch (+289, /* 2026-05 */ add ruru-jinro.net): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=61910&oldid=61909 |
| 14:05:11 | <@arkiver> | cruller: so nothing public and not much we can do? |
| 14:09:30 | <cruller> | arkiver: In terms of percentage, it’s a small amount, but in terms of actual numbers, there’s quite a lot that can be archived. However, it appears that the AB job run yesterday failed. |
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| 14:26:02 | <cruller> | They block me immediately if I exhibit even slightly suspicious behavior. Even if I'm not actually using a bot :( |
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| 14:30:04 | <NicoVideoArchiver> | Hello, I have obtained a list of the urls of what I believe to be all 800,000 or so MikuMikuDance videos on NicoNicoDouga. I was going to archive it myself, but some tests and estimates showed it to unfeasible. I estimate the total size would be about 40 terabytes. Would ArchiveTeam be interested in this? |
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| 14:35:22 | <cruller> | NicoVideoArchiver: I recommend checking out https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Niconico and going to #niconino. |
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| 14:41:39 | <@arkiver> | NicoVideoArchiver: is MikuMikuDance shutting down? when? |
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| 15:10:01 | <klea> | Wait, does arkiver have a limit of projects that can be on the front page or something? |
| 15:10:07 | <NicoVideoArchiver> | "I recommend checking out https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Niconico" I already have. "and going to #niconino." Thanks, didn't realize that existed. Is it active or dead? |
| 15:11:06 | <@arkiver> | klea: no |
| 15:11:11 | <klea> | Ah. |
| 15:11:18 | <@arkiver> | but it had too many projects that were not running |
| 15:11:23 | <NicoVideoArchiver> | "is MikuMikuDance shutting down? when?" MikuMikuDance is not a website, it is an animation program that used to be popular in Japan for amateurs. I have obtained a list of what I believe to be the urls of every video made with it on the NicoNico video website |
| 15:13:51 | <cruller> | NicoVideoArchiver: I joined it on February 12, 2026, but there has been no activity since then. |
| 15:15:56 | <cruller> | klea: https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php?target=https%3A%2F%2Fchat.hackint.org&namespace=&title=Special%3ALinkSearch is your friend. |
| 15:16:24 | <klea> | cruller: That lists non active channels too. |
| 15:16:25 | <cruller> | klea: By the way, do the other pywikibot scripts in https://github.com/emijrp/internet-archive (especially disestablishments.py) work? |
| 15:16:36 | <klea> | cruller: Didn't test, if you want me to, I can try. |
| 15:19:07 | <NicoVideoArchiver> | "I joined it on February 12, 2026, but there has been no activity since then." Okay, so there's basically no use to going there then? So where should I ask about this? |
| 15:20:35 | <klea> | There? |
| 15:21:11 | <NicoVideoArchiver> | klea: to #niconico |
| 15:21:30 | <klea> | #niconino, not #niconico. |
| 15:22:54 | <cruller> | NicoVideoArchiver: Nevertheless, I still recommend joining there. If someone brings up a useful topic, the discussion will naturally become more active :) |
| 15:24:12 | <cruller> | klea: Re lists, Indeed. |
| 15:24:36 | <klea> | cruller: I got a llm to write some code using mwparserfromhell + xml parsing, and it gave me a list of 112 channels after deduping. |
| 15:25:34 | <klea> | I don't like chanlimit maybe being too low. |
| 15:29:47 | <klea> | (here's the script I ran for if I later want to search for it, https://transfer.archivete.am/6qmxC/ircchans.py) |
| 15:29:47 | <eggdrop> | inline (for browser viewing): https://transfer.archivete.am/inline/6qmxC/ircchans.py) |
| 15:30:23 | <cruller> | Nice. |
| 15:30:34 | <cruller> | klea++ |
| 15:30:36 | <eggdrop> | [karma] 'klea' now has 31 karma! |
| 15:31:20 | <klea> | Let's hope weechat is smart about /join. |
| 15:32:56 | <klea> | #ditched, #posts.resumes, #typebad are probably closed, but not marked as such. |
| 15:35:09 | <cruller> | klea: Re pywikibot scripts, I'm a little concerned that it hasn't been updated since [[Disestablishments_in_2020]]. It's not a problem if the main members don't need them, though. |
| 15:35:30 | <klea> | #driedup has nobody but is invite only. |
| 15:35:51 | <klea> | I suppose keeping them existing wastes ram. |
| 15:36:02 | <cruller> | lol |
| 15:37:18 | <klea> | Now time to hunt down wiki pages. |
| 15:38:54 | <klea> | I should use pywb, but I'm not going to write a script to do this one off, so by hand it goes. |
| 15:39:23 | <h2ibot> | Klea edited 竹白 (+23, Closed channel): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=61911&oldid=61594 |
| 15:40:24 | <h2ibot> | Klea edited Posts.cv (+23, Abandoned channel): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=61912&oldid=60173 |
| 15:41:24 | <h2ibot> | Klea edited Typepad (+23, Closed channel.): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=61913&oldid=60166 |
| 15:42:24 | <h2ibot> | Klea edited Glitch (+23, IRC channel closed.): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=61914&oldid=60194 |
| 15:42:25 | <h2ibot> | Klea edited Retrospring (+23, Closed IRC channel.): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=61915&oldid=60172 |
| 15:47:21 | <cruller> | BTW "pywb" is easily confused with https://github.com/webrecorder/pywb |
| 15:48:05 | <klea> | Uhh, yeah. |
| 15:48:18 | | klea wonders if cruller uses NixOS or if they just noticed the package name. |
| 15:48:32 | <klea> | I didn't know what to name it, if you have suggestions tell me. |
| 15:52:57 | <cruller> | The latter is correct. Also, I don't have a good idea about naming... |
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| 16:50:34 | <h2ibot> | Manu edited Mailman/2 (+62, Saved list.ppandalucia.es): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=61916&oldid=61097 |
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| 17:04:31 | <egallager> | https://www.404media.co/this-archivist-has-saved-175-000-articles-from-30-years-of-writing-about-magic-the-gathering/ |
| 17:04:45 | <egallager> | via: https://bsky.app/profile/egall.bsky.social |
| 17:04:50 | <egallager> | oops |
| 17:05:02 | <egallager> | I meant, via: https://bsky.app/profile/404media.co/post/3mmekomsw4i2b |
| 17:05:07 | <klea> | https://library-of-leng.com/ |
| 17:05:45 | <klea> | > By default, Library of Leng only exposes short snippets of the articles that we've indexed. With author permission, we rehost older articles that are no longer available from the original publisher. If you're an author and you're willing to grant that permission, I'd love to hear from you - shoot an email to gregor@library-of-leng.com. |
| 17:06:22 | <klea> | So the texts will be incomplete, if wanted you could contact them and ask if they'd be willing to save their full data to IA and darken the item or something. |
| 17:14:33 | <@JAA> | klea: Ah, I guess I forgot to mark those on the wiki when I closed them in March. |
| 17:15:27 | <klea> | Ah. |
| 17:16:00 | <@JAA> | Actually, January, but I left them in March. |
| 17:16:21 | <klea> | Since JAA can join those invite only channels, and manually closes them. |
| 17:16:26 | <klea> | Time to write a small ATM bot. |
| 17:16:40 | <h2ibot> | Klea edited 4chan (-444, Do not direct to a non-existent channel.): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=61917&oldid=61160 |
| 17:17:00 | <@JAA> | #coronarchive is also closed, and #brookgalaxy never had a wiki page, I guess. |
| 17:17:36 | <klea> | I didn't look for [[Template:IRC]] uses. |
| 17:21:05 | <klea> | And now I'm confused why [[4chan]] uses it's own custom infobox rather than using the template. |
| 17:21:18 | <@JAA> | Probably hysterical raisins |
| 17:31:42 | <klea> | You know what's fun, when you download the other dump, the one with full history, and process it instead :( |
| 17:32:00 | <klea> | No wonder it was taking it's sweet time decompressing it. |
| 17:35:05 | <@JAA> | The custom infobox is probably to link to the bibanon IRC channel instead of ours. That needs to be made clearer that it isn't AT though. |
| 17:35:31 | <klea> | Yeah. |
| 17:36:59 | <klea> | https://transfer.archivete.am/inline/P2vhx/irctemplatecheckllm.py The template checker code. |
| 17:39:58 | <klea> | Oh, JAA btw, the job of marking a channel as closed also needs to search for it's usage on [[Warrior projects]], [[Main Page/Current Projects]] and in [[Manual projects]]. |
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| 17:41:44 | <h2ibot> | That lurker edited Rec Room (+198, Edit to show activity and add source and…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=61918&oldid=60859 |
| 17:41:45 | <h2ibot> | That lurker edited Rec Room (+24, archiving_type = DPoS): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=61919&oldid=61918 |
| 17:44:50 | <@JAA> | klea: I have no intention of automating this. xkcd 1205 says it isn't worth it. |
| 17:45:05 | <klea> | Yeah, I'm doing it by hand. |
| 17:45:25 | <klea> | I was just thinking maybe a page should be made to document how to close a channel (or a section added to [[ArchiveTeam:IRC]] |
| 17:49:42 | <klea> | JAA: I meant me writing a thing, you reviewing it, and running it, as it makes you procrastinate on closing some channels. |
| 17:49:45 | <h2ibot> | Klea edited Warrior projects (+50, Mark abandoned/decomissioned channels.): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=61920&oldid=61488 |
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| 17:52:36 | <klea> | JAA: Should I mark channels such as #lookatthisfotograph, which aren't registered by AT as abandoned? |
| 17:58:54 | <@JAA> | klea: That's already marked? https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Nagi |
| 17:59:03 | <klea> | JAA: No, on Warrior Projects. |
| 17:59:49 | <@JAA> | Sure, but the entries like #typebad need fixing, too. |
| 18:00:02 | <klea> | Yeah, I noticed. |
| 18:00:06 | <klea> | I am doing that in vim. |
| 18:00:32 | <klea> | It's cursed that for hackint channels closing for {{IRC}} we have to do {{IRC|channelname|hackint|abandoned|oldtextonly}}. |
| 18:01:06 | <@JAA> | I think we could omit the hackint, but then it'd get even messier |
| 18:01:38 | <@JAA> | I suppose simply leaving that field blank would work. |
| 18:01:49 | <h2ibot> | Klea edited Warrior projects (+160, Fix channel markings and add some more): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=61921&oldid=61920 |
| 18:02:49 | <h2ibot> | Klea edited Coronavirus (+30, Channel was closed): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=61922&oldid=49850 |
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| 18:06:46 | <klea> | JAA: Can I try to add a irc_custom option? |
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| 18:07:18 | <klea> | (for [[4Chan]]) |
| 18:09:24 | <@JAA> | klea: Sure. Do it with [[Template:Infobox project sandbox]] first (might need to be synced with the real template). |
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| 18:12:12 | <klea> | Ack. |
| 18:12:50 | <h2ibot> | Klea edited Template:Infobox project sandbox (+1320, Sync): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=61923&oldid=58018 |
| 18:22:52 | <h2ibot> | Klea edited Template:Infobox project sandbox (+51, Make the template itself check via MediaWiki if…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=61924&oldid=61923 |
| 18:28:53 | <h2ibot> | Klea edited Template:Infobox project sandbox (+59, Test allowing specification of custom channel): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=61925&oldid=61924 |
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| 18:29:58 | <klea> | JAA: Seems to work, based on tests on [[Special:ExpandTemplates]]. |
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| 18:30:39 | <klea> | I should figure out a way to warn when irc_custom is set, irc or irc_network or irc_abandoned are set. |
| 18:33:09 | <klea> | JAA: Is it a good idea to add all pages that use irc_custom to it's own category, just to keep track of them? |
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| 18:37:54 | <h2ibot> | Klea edited Template:Infobox project sandbox (+92, Test): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=61926&oldid=61925 |
| 18:41:54 | <h2ibot> | Klea edited Template:Infobox project sandbox (+417, Warn when irc_custom is set and irc or…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=61927&oldid=61926 |
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| 18:43:55 | <h2ibot> | Klea edited Template:Infobox project sandbox (+126, Add projects using custom settings to…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=61928&oldid=61927 |
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| 18:47:55 | <h2ibot> | Klea created Category:Infobox project pages using a custom IRC value (+138, Created page with "This category includes pages…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?oldid=61929 |
| 18:48:55 | <h2ibot> | Klea created Category:Infobox project pages with failing custom IRC settings (+295, Created page with "This category includes pages…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?oldid=61930 |
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| 19:42:34 | <Exorcism> | arkiver: what's the best concurrency for kakaotv and is it geoblock, if yes where ? |
| 19:43:42 | <klea> | Exorcism: → #tatteredstory and arkiver is sleeping. |
| 19:44:04 | <Exorcism> | oh thanks :) |
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| 19:45:15 | <h2ibot> | Exorcism edited Kakao TV (+21): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=61931&oldid=60686 |
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| 19:50:55 | <@JAA> | klea: Sure, that sounds reasonable to me. |
| 19:51:26 | <klea> | Copying over. |
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| 20:08:18 | <h2ibot> | Klea edited Template:Infobox project (+882, Update from [[Template:Infobox project sandbox|]]): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=61932&oldid=59031 |
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| 20:50:30 | <h2ibot> | Klea edited 4chan (-552, Replace custom table with use of…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=61933&oldid=61917 |
| 20:50:56 | <klea> | JAA: Is this up to our standards? https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=61933&oldid=61917 |
| 20:52:49 | <@JAA> | klea: I think I'd call it 'external' rather than 'unofficial'. |
| 20:52:58 | <klea> | Ack. |
| 20:53:30 | <h2ibot> | Klea edited 4chan (-4, Use external instead of unofficial.): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=61934&oldid=61933 |
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| 23:15:02 | <klea> | steering: So we can archive the ssh public host keys, (re -ot) |
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