| 00:00:01 | <eggdrop> | [remind] justauser: https://cfgfactory.com/ torrent released? |
| 00:08:24 | <steering> | justauser: I only see a handful of open 80/443 in that netblock FYI |
| 00:09:54 | <steering> | https://transfer.archivete.am/sr63y/nmap |
| 00:09:55 | <eggdrop> | inline (for browser viewing): https://transfer.archivete.am/inline/sr63y/nmap |
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| 06:00:12 | <h2ibot> | Brad edited Alive... OR ARE THEY (+184, Added Spirit 2.0): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=61260&oldid=60912 |
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| 09:15:52 | <Flashfire42> | well it seems running telegram is still affecting my folks internet connection and youtube is doing the same are there other warrior projects that have some work that I can trial and see |
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| 14:13:50 | <justauser> | Flashfire42: I'd say at this point the only choice you have is artificial traffic shaping. |
| 14:13:50 | <justauser> | !remindme 2week https://cfgfactory.com/ torrent released? |
| 14:13:51 | <eggdrop> | [remind] ok, i'll remind you at 2026-05-18T00:00:00Z |
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| 15:47:32 | <nulldata> | https://www.apartmenttherapy.com/removing-community-forum-37550873 |
| 15:47:44 | <nulldata> | "rather than let the forum quietly fade, we’ve decided to close it down gracefully." |
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| 15:48:05 | <nulldata> | gracefully = immediately taking the forums offline with no notice |
| 15:48:28 | <justauser> | Still better than letting them fill with SEO spam. |
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| 15:48:48 | <klea> | Don't worry, that comes after the domain expires. |
| 15:50:15 | <klea> | AFAIK, gracefully = freeze in time whilst still running the software the same way it would normally run, to let people save stuff up? |
| 15:52:05 | <klea> | That feels like a dream tho. |
| 16:02:34 | <justauser> | The software is still here, if you hurry. |
| 16:02:52 | <justauser> | 162.159.138.78 |
| 16:03:06 | <justauser> | grab-site anybody? |
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| 16:07:43 | <justauser> | Trying to run it... |
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| 16:09:11 | <klea> | How bad would running Wget-AT at it?, that seems to have been packaged already if you don't want to go trough the hassle of preparing a grab-site. |
| 16:09:37 | <justauser> | I should have it installed, but it doesn't pick up the /etc/hosts entry for some reason. |
| 16:09:52 | <klea> | Ah. |
| 16:10:02 | <justauser> | I don't have Wget-AT handy - where can I pick it up without abusing a Warrior container? |
| 16:10:03 | <klea> | What's the domain it's under? |
| 16:10:14 | <justauser> | https://community.apartmenttherapy.com/ |
| 16:10:31 | <klea> | 2026-05-04 16:10:01 <justauser> I don't have Wget-AT handy - where can I pick it up without abusing a Warrior container? <- OrIdow6 gave me a nix derivation for it, if you want I can try to generate a /nix/store folder with all the crap needed for it. |
| 16:10:51 | | justauser runs The universal operating system. |
| 16:11:48 | <klea> | Which is that? |
| 16:12:03 | <nulldata> | TempleOS |
| 16:12:23 | <justauser> | Debian. |
| 16:12:24 | <klea> | Ah. |
| 16:12:33 | <klea> | Time to make a docker thing then. |
| 16:12:50 | <justauser> | Not a good designation, but that's what they have in <title>. |
| 16:13:11 | <justauser> | I'd rather get a static binary... |
| 16:13:45 | <klea> | let me poke at someone knowledgeable about nix. |
| 16:14:32 | <justauser> | cURL doesn't see it either... |
| 16:15:09 | <justauser> | And older entry that used to work doesn't anymore... |
| 16:15:15 | | justauser has WTF moment. |
| 16:15:21 | <klea> | So that IP was useless? |
| 16:15:36 | <justauser> | That's something fun on my machine. |
| 16:15:40 | <justauser> | The IP should work. |
| 16:15:59 | <klea> | Ah. |
| 16:16:22 | | klea grumbles at having to recompile it again. |
| 16:17:48 | <justauser> | One mystery less - I was confusing inside and outside of the chroot with grab-site. |
| 16:17:59 | <klea> | ah. |
| 16:18:03 | <justauser> | But this doesn't explain the main problem. |
| 16:21:42 | <justauser> | $ grab-site --wpull-args=--no-skip-getaddrinfo --igsets forums https://community.apartmenttherapy.com/ |
| 16:21:55 | | justauser has an idea. |
| 16:21:57 | <klea> | How does that fail? |
| 16:22:00 | <klea> | Ah. |
| 16:22:34 | <justauser> | By eventually printing "https://www.apartmenttherapy.com/removing-community-forum-37550873 ...". |
| 16:23:45 | <justauser> | Nope. |
| 16:24:16 | <justauser> | If you have Wget-AT installed, maybe it will be easier for you to run it. |
| 16:24:31 | <klea> | If you tell me what to run. |
| 16:24:57 | <justauser> | I don't know. |
| 16:28:38 | <klea> | Uhh, cmake made it fail to build statically. |
| 16:28:53 | <justauser> | Something like wget-lua -m --page-requisites --warc-file community.apartmenttherapy.com.warc --content-on-error --tries 2 --header Connection: keep-alive -e robots=off --wait 1 might happen to work. |
| 16:29:14 | <justauser> | But that's all shaky grounds, and I don't thing Wget can add ignores as we discover trouble? |
| 16:29:15 | <klea> | https://transfer.archivete.am/TA1Sa/zc3gz8q1i7s98gcycgrz2cfp79hi91yr-docker-image-wget-at.tar.gz |
| 16:29:29 | <klea> | It can if you write lua code for it before. |
| 16:29:42 | <justauser> | Lua-- |
| 16:29:42 | <eggdrop> | [karma] 'Lua' now has 1 karma! |
| 16:30:04 | <klea> | Lua++ |
| 16:30:05 | <eggdrop> | [karma] 'Lua' now has 2 karma! |
| 16:30:14 | <klea> | It's awesome, the issue is you not having any hooks system! |
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| 16:34:14 | <justauser> | JAA: Am I holding g-s wrong? Are there any other reasonable ways? |
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| 16:49:55 | <justauser> | https://archive.org/details/UnlimMembership someone made Brozzler work for recursive archival? |
| 16:53:17 | <cruller> | It's me. |
| 16:54:28 | <justauser> | Oh. |
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| 19:36:27 | <klea> | 2026-05-03 14:59:17 <klea> justauser: Do you think the thunix item should go into opensource or opensource_media? (which) <- https://archive.org/details/thunix.net-20260430 uploaded. |
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| 19:58:51 | <@arkiver> | i am still less available until sunday. still reading, and replying, and if there are emergencies i can act, otherwise i will resume normal activity sunday/monday |
| 20:03:06 | <klea> | arkiver++ |
| 20:03:06 | <eggdrop> | [karma] 'arkiver' now has 104 karma! |
| 20:10:22 | <@arkiver> | :) |
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| 21:48:43 | <klea> | JAA: Is there interest in also logging the changes to the other AT wikis? |
| 21:48:57 | <klea> | Like, at least to the Internet Archive wiki, ran on the same machine. |
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| 21:59:05 | <@JAA> | justauser: I've never used it like that. I did run grab-site with host overrides before, but that was with `docker run --add-host`. (Also, be sure to make it very clear that the archive was run with manipulated DNS.) |
| 22:00:57 | <klea> | So stuck in a tar file? |
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| 23:11:01 | <Flashfire42> | justauser what is artificial traffic shaping? |
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| 23:22:07 | <Coldsteel> | there's this webcomic that I want archived because it's peak, here it is: http://www.all-night-laundry.com/ |
| 23:22:24 | <Coldsteel> | and I was told to contact the archive team soo... |
| 23:22:54 | <Coldsteel> | whats' y'all favorite webcomics |
| 23:23:46 | <hexa-> | https://www.davidrevoy.com/ |
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| 23:27:39 | <Coldsteel> | don't think I've ever heard about pepperancarrot but it seems rather good from the little I just read so I'm going to read it now. is the comic I linked going to be archived or is there more stuff that I need to do? |
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| 23:32:09 | <pokechu22> | Coldsteel: It being interactive seems like it might make things slightly complicated, but it looks like http://www.all-night-laundry.com/map links to all the pages so that's *probably* not an issue? |
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| 23:33:08 | <pokechu22> | oh, updated daily, and I guess interactive doesn't mean nonlinear? |
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| 23:33:24 | <Coldsteel> | it ended a while ago |
| 23:33:26 | <Coldsteel> | like years |
| 23:33:48 | <Coldsteel> | and as for linearity... It's a horror comic about time travel so the timeline gets pretty messed up and stuff |
| 23:34:34 | <Coldsteel> | like if you visit a late page and go back to an early one there'll be changes cuz of all the time shenanigans |
| 23:34:55 | <pokechu22> | As long as every page can be found by normal <a href=...> links archivebot should work - you can watch progress on http://archivebot.com/?initialFilter=all-night-laundry |
| 23:34:57 | <pokechu22> | oh, huh |
| 23:35:04 | <Coldsteel> | and the best part is it kinda makes sense! |
| 23:35:18 | <Coldsteel> | thanks |
| 23:35:40 | <pokechu22> | Yeah, I guess it's cookie-based? Hmm |
| 23:36:23 | <pokechu22> | Looks like https://allnightlaundry.s3.ca-central-1.amazonaws.com/ is an open bucket with all the images, so I can save those... but making everything else work seems harder |
| 23:39:56 | <pokechu22> | e.g. loading http://www.all-night-laundry.com/post/2416 and then http://www.all-night-laundry.com/post/2 is different... archivebot (and web.archive.org) probably can't handle that properly. |
| 23:40:34 | <Coldsteel> | k |
| 23:41:34 | <Coldsteel> | thanks again. if/when it's finished, how can I access it? |
| 23:42:35 | <pokechu22> | It'll be browsable on web.archive.org and WARCs will appear on https://archive.fart.website/archivebot/viewer/?q=all-night-laundry. It might take a day or 2 for that to happen after it finishes on archivebot.com though (there's a bit of an upload backlog right now) |
| 23:43:16 | <Coldsteel> | k. gtg. I guess I'll see y'all later if there's another very cool obscure webcomic that needs archiving. |
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