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04:17:10<h2ibot>PaulWise edited Fediverse (+0, typo): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=61209&oldid=61202
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08:10:45<h2ibot>Brad edited Governments on YouTube (+316, added Electoral Commission The netherlands and…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=61210&oldid=60891
08:13:45<h2ibot>Brad edited Deathwatch (+320, Added RTL Tonight): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=61211&oldid=61207
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10:59:48<klea>btw, regarding AO₃, I read on the Internet that some authors delete their fanfics when they are publishing them in book form, so that might be good to archive.
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11:15:14<klea>I wonder how hard it'd be to extract all images from Picrews, https://picrew.me/en/image_maker/41329
11:16:42<@arkiver>klea: is it shutting down?
11:17:22<klea>No
11:17:42<klea>But I've seen some authors do delete their artwork from the platform, or at least I've seen them disappear.
11:18:38<klea>Tho, annoyingly they can be updated. :(
11:23:43<klea>Uhh, shouldn't be too hard to extract a url list from https://picrew.me/en/image_maker/[id], except if thrown into AB it'll likely find "/app/image_maker/[id]/[number]/[random].png" and treat it as a link to picrew.me/app/..., which wouldn't be good, since it's under cdn.picrew.me.
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12:46:37<cruller>FWIW https://github.com/mincerafter42/picrew-download-bookmarklet/
12:51:07<klea>I wrote something to statically parse the pages, see -dev.
12:53:34<cruller>Great. I'll check it out.
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13:28:13<cruller>Incidentally, since the lastmod attribute of Picrew's sitemap seems to be set correctly, detecting updates is relatively easy.
13:32:35<klea>So in theory if we agreed it is okay to archive it and we wanted, we could keep a bloom filter with all the Picrew CDN links, and have it later end up in AB?
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14:33:52<cruller>I tried to check the WBM CDX to confirm that the content assigned to each CDN link would not be updated, but picrew.me is excluded.
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14:34:33<klea>Aw.
14:34:45<klea>So I guess more on danger then?
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15:07:34<cruller>What are your concerns? As for the risks of filtering based solely on CDX URLs, you can assess this by archiving data without filtering for a while.
15:07:40<cruller>Another concern is likely that platform operators are requesting exclusions. However, since there are no substantial obstacles despite the fact that more than three years have passed since the exclusions were granted, it does not appear that they are taking a proactive approach to anti-scraping measures.
15:09:50<cruller>The source for "more than three years have passed since the exclusions were granted" is https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=48812&oldid=48803
15:11:02<klea>True.
15:14:53<cruller>However, if someone starts continuous scraping, they might strengthen their countermeasures :/
15:17:43<klea>Yeah :(
15:22:06<cruller>But even if you don’t do it, AI scrapers will.
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15:23:08<klea>Yeah.
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16:02:57<Hans5958><masterx244|m> "Someone on the inofficial AT..." <- There is a Discord server?
16:13:31<justauser>Yeah, you can find it in the wiki history.
16:13:57<justauser>Jason deleted is with an angry edit message, but didn't obliterate further.
16:14:02<justauser>s/is/it/
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16:40:44<wickedplayer494>Honestly, given the walled garden nature of Discord, is further elaboration really necessary? I don't think so
16:43:59<justauser>Well, as you can see, some people still meet here - whether everybody else likes it or not.
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17:04:01<h2ibot>Manu edited Discourse/active (+52, Add support.last.fm): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=61213&oldid=61068
17:05:01<h2ibot>Manu edited Discourse/archived (+94, Queued support.last.fm): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=61214&oldid=61190
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18:17:10<h2ibot>Manu created ArchiveBot/Governments/Belarus (+2047, Create page for Belarus): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?oldid=61217
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21:20:22<@JAA>People can meet wherever. Just don't call it AT because it isn't AT.
22:04:33<masterx244|m>was a typo, i meant IA discord
22:04:36<masterx244|m>*unofficial IA discord
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